[OSM-talk] Adding maps to wikipedia articles

2008-02-13 Thread David Ebling
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote:
 Would there be a way to trigger automatic
regeneration of
 maps? Perhaps on a monthly basis or something.

Wasn't the hyperlink invented to solve this sort of
problem? :-)
 Instead of putting up map graphics, why not just
 have a map link? Less pretty?

 Gerv

Isn't there a way of making the actual map tiles from
the tile server show up on wikipedia? Whether it's a
type of slippy map or just a tile or four, is this
feasible? Would it put too much load on the tile
server?

Dave


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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding maps to wikipedia articles

2008-02-13 Thread Gervase Markham
David Ebling wrote:
 Isn't there a way of making the actual map tiles from
 the tile server show up on wikipedia? Whether it's a
 type of slippy map or just a tile or four, is this
 feasible? Would it put too much load on the tile
 server?

Well this would mean the maps could only begin or end on tile boundaries 
and, considering the incredible amount of traffic Wikipedia serves, yes, 
I strongly suspect it would flatten the tile server.

Gerv


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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding maps to wikipedia articles

2008-02-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
OJ W wrote:
Sent: 11 February 2008 10:39 PM
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Adding maps to wikipedia articles

Just looking at an idea for adding maps to wikipedia articles...


Starting with a list of towns that we have reasonably-well mapped, such as:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Towns_in_Surrey


we can download each of the wiki pages and look for geotags in them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_OpenStreetMap/OJW_list_n
otes


Once we know where the town is, we can either render a map of it, or create
an
SVG map, or create a template with some new mediawiki extension[1].


In this example, I just downloaded (automatically, of course) an image from
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
and uploaded it to wikimedia commons:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:OpenStreetMap_render_Banstead.png


Once a map is available, we don't necessarily want to force it onto the
wikipedia article
just yet.  But we can leave a message on the talk page saying that a map is
available,
showing what it looks like, and giving instructions how to use it in the
article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ashford%2C_Surrey


There is some software available which can do all of the above:

http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/rendering/forWikipedia/w
ikipediaMaps.pl


so now the debate could be: do we want to?


regards,

OJW



[1]  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Collaboration_with_Wikipedia



I think it would be great to have OSM mapping more widely distributed,
however I'd be concerned that if this is a static process maps could end up
on wikipedia which are constantly out of date because they are very much
work in progress. Would there be a way to trigger automatic regeneration of
maps? Perhaps on a monthly basis or something.

Cheers

Andy



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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding maps to wikipedia articles

2008-02-12 Thread Gervase Markham
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote:
 Would there be a way to trigger automatic regeneration of
 maps? Perhaps on a monthly basis or something.

Wasn't the hyperlink invented to solve this sort of problem? :-) Instead 
of putting up map graphics, why not just have a map link? Less pretty?

Gerv


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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding maps to wikipedia articles

2008-02-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Trautmann wrote:

 OJ W wrote:
 Just looking at an idea for adding maps to wikipedia articles...

 I suppose this is not possible, due to license issues!?

It's certainly possible. It's a Collective Work (or whatever similar  
term you want to use). Plenty of Wikipedia articles are illustrated  
with CC-BY-SA or other non-GFDL images.

cheers
Richard


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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding maps to wikipedia articles

2008-02-12 Thread Martin Trautmann
OJ W wrote:
 Just looking at an idea for adding maps to wikipedia articles...

I suppose this is not possible, due to license issues!?

- Martin

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