[OSM-talk] Flash player's own zoom tool fails with Potlatch 0.7

2008-02-04 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Hi,
 
I have used to zoom in once or twice beyond Yahoo's last zoom level with
Flash Player's native zoom tool launched from the right click menu when
trying to draw accurately on Yahoo Landsat imagery. Now after Potlatch
0.7 update Flash Player zooming cannot be used anymore.  You can
reproduce the error simply:
 
- Open Potlacth editor in any scale showing backdrop imagery
- Do Right click - Zoom in
- Slide the view a bit by dragging
- Do Righ click - Show all
 
Vectors and imagery do not match any more.  Only way to make them match
is to close the editor and start from the beginning again and avoid
using the right click zoom.  This feature has worked fine until
yesterday. I have found it very useful and I would like to see it coming
back sometime.
 
-Jukka Rahkonen-
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk


Re: [OSM-talk] Flash player's own zoom tool fails with Potlatch 0.7

2008-02-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rahkonen Jukka wrote:

 Vectors and imagery do not match any more.  Only way to make them  
 match is to close the editor and start from the beginning again and  
 avoid using the right click zoom.  This feature has worked fine  
 until yesterday. I have found it very useful and I would like to  
 see it coming back sometime.

Unfortunately this appears to be a known bug with Flash Player when a  
SWF fills 100% of a div, as Potlatch now does (rather than being  
fixed-size).

Hopefully Adobe will fix it but we're also planning to approach Yahoo  
and ask them if they could perhaps scale up their imagery rather than  
reporting no imagery available.

Until then, you can realign the imagery by holding down Space and  
dragging it. Or I'm open to any other ideas, of course!

cheers
Richard

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk


Re: [OSM-talk] Flash player's own zoom tool fails with Potlatch 0.7

2008-02-04 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Richard Fairhurst wrote:
| Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
|
| Vectors and imagery do not match any more.  Only way to make them
| match is to close the editor and start from the beginning again and
| avoid using the right click zoom.  This feature has worked fine
| until yesterday. I have found it very useful and I would like to
| see it coming back sometime.
|
| Unfortunately this appears to be a known bug with Flash Player when a
| SWF fills 100% of a div, as Potlatch now does (rather than being
| fixed-size).
|
| Hopefully Adobe will fix it but we're also planning to approach Yahoo
| and ask them if they could perhaps scale up their imagery rather than
| reporting no imagery available.
|
| Until then, you can realign the imagery by holding down Space and
| dragging it. Or I'm open to any other ideas, of course!

This reminds me: Can we collect data on imagery realignments? If we
could just log center of view, username, zoom level and how far it was
dragged, we could look for areas that were dragged by similar amounts a
lot, take an average, and then make potlatch open with the correction
already applied. We could also forward the information to Yahoo. Perhaps
we should also collect the number of edits made after the drag, and not
keep drags with few edits made later, on the grounds that if you are
doing a lot of editing, you are going to try to line it up more perfectly.

Obvoiusly we would need a way to ignore drags that occur because of the
above problem, but we can probably just throw those out because their
magnitude will be much larger.

Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFHpwuUz+aYVHdncI0RAuRbAJ4rYUAB2WWOsschmQdvMpJsM5qjGQCfTwBV
1PcgENW8zflVV+iGvIhxUic=
=hdVq
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk


Re: [OSM-talk] Flash player's own zoom tool fails with Potlatch 0.7

2008-02-04 Thread John McKerrell

On 4 Feb 2008, at 09:53, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:

 Thank you for the information.  Unfortunately manual realigning is  
 impossible if
 you are considering to work on a totally new area and perhaps  
 inaccurate and
 error prone even if there are some earlier mapped features.  I  
 think I am going
 to stop using this extra zoom until it will be fixed or made  
 unnecessary by
 scaling up the Yahoo imagery.

Jukka - if you're working on a Mac, you can get OS X to do the  
zooming for you, it needs to be turned on (System Preferences -  
Universal Access, set Zoom to On, use the keyboard shortcuts it  
mentions). I believe there's similar things for windows and Linux too  
that might be able to help you.

John

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk


Re: [OSM-talk] Flash player's own zoom tool fails with Potlatch 0.7

2008-02-04 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahkonen at mmmtike.fi writes:

 
 Richard Fairhurst richard at systemeD.net writes:
 

  
  Unfortunately this appears to be a known bug with Flash Player when a  
  SWF fills 100% of a div, as Potlatch now does (rather than being  
  fixed-size).
  
  Hopefully Adobe will fix it but we're also planning to approach Yahoo  
  and ask them if they could perhaps scale up their imagery rather than  
  reporting no imagery available.
  
  Until then, you can realign the imagery by holding down Space and  
  dragging it. Or I'm open to any other ideas, of course!

After working a while with the new version I must say that I miss much more
the Flash  player zoom than I feel happy about having full screen.  But
perhaps other users are weighting full screen higher.

-Jukka-



___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk