Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
I can give you an authoritative answer to this one because I flew Ryanair from Stansted to Dublin last week with an expired passport. I hadn't noticed that my passport was one week out of date - neither did the check-in lady to whom I showed it, neither did the Security check just before airside. Only as I handed my boarding card to the stewardess did she take a closer look and balked. 'You do know your passport has expired?' Luckily, they DO accept drivers licenses, even, in my case, provisional licenses (I really must get round to taking a test) - and she was perfectly happy about it. As were Dublin check-in staff and security on the reverse journey. So no, you don't need a passport to fly Ryanair from UK to ROI. Weirdly, on the way back, after disembarking at Stansted, and before customs/passport control, an officious looking woman was inspecting _boarding_ cards. She was backed up by half a dozen serious looking men, so she meant business. I have no idea what that was about, but luckily I'd kept mine. It's not beyond possibility that I'd have thrown mine away at some point, as I'd never thought I'd have to produce one AFTER a flight. Any ideas? PHILLIP BARNETT SERVER MANAGER 200 GRAY'S INN ROAD LONDON WC1X 8XZ UNITED KINGDOM T +44 (0)20 7430 4474 F E [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW.ITN.CO.UK P Please consider the environment. Do you really need to print this email? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renaud Martinet Sent: 24 June 2008 18:29 To: Martijn van Oosterhout Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; Nick Whitelegg Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation? They surely do accept european ID cards as I always used that at the immigration in Heathrow coming from France and going up to Scotland. In fact you could go through immigration in London only with your thick French accent, happened to me like 3 years ago. It was just after the bombings in London and I had lost all my IDs some time ago. Hopefully they were not too picky and let me board my flight to Aberdeen. I guess it's just a matter of really looking like who you're pretending to be :) Renaud. On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Renaud Martinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably any European ID proving your nationality would do but better to check. Usually they give advice when you book the flight. AIUI within the EU you only need to carry *some* kind of (probably official looking) photo identification, it doesn't have to be a passport (though that has the advantage of being recognised everywhere in the world). Between schengen countries you're not required to show it at the border. If you arrive at a londen airport it even says that ID cards are acceptable for EU citizens. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk Please Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Independent Television News Limited unless specifically stated. This email and any files attached are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that to ensure regulatory compliance and for the protection of our clients and business, we may monitor and read messages sent to and from our systems. Thank You. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
On 25 Jun 2008, at 08:46, Barnett, Phillip wrote: Weirdly, on the way back, after disembarking at Stansted, and before customs/passport control, an officious looking woman was inspecting _boarding_ cards. She was backed up by half a dozen serious looking men, so she meant business. I have no idea what that was about, but luckily I'd kept mine. It's not beyond possibility that I'd have thrown mine away at some point, as I'd never thought I'd have to produce one AFTER a flight. Any ideas? They were looking for illegal immigrants and specific individuals. I've had that a few times landing with EZ flights and the cabin crew warned us before leaving the aircraft. Best Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
2008/6/24 Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think Ryan Air's policy requires you to have a passport. Only for online check-in (which, I admit, is fairly compelling). Otherwise a driving licence is sufficient. The Garda National Bureau of Immigration does force all arrivals through a thing they call Passport Control, but no UK or Irish citizen is obliged to show a passport, or, in theory, to offer ID of any sort. Doesn't stop them asking, though. Probably sounds like an impossibly vague documentation requirement, right? This is what happens in countries with no ID card system... Dermot PS: in a mad bid to get back on-topic, should we be trying to model common travel areas (such as UK/IRL or Schengen) in some way? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Renaud Martinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably any European ID proving your nationality would do but better to check. Usually they give advice when you book the flight. AIUI within the EU you only need to carry *some* kind of (probably official looking) photo identification, it doesn't have to be a passport (though that has the advantage of being recognised everywhere in the world). Between schengen countries you're not required to show it at the border. If you arrive at a londen airport it even says that ID cards are acceptable for EU citizens. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Free? Damn - and I had to pay for the one I have booked. Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Manager of e-Learning Academic Development Centre for Learning and Quality Enhancement Middlesex University phone/fax: 020 8411 5355 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/hssc/staff/profiles/technical/chiltons.asp Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/ SoC conference 2008: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/cartographers08/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Whitelegg Sent: 24 June 2008 09:49 Back on to the subject line, I've now sorted accommodation out, at the Castlemoor B+B which still seems to be free. Thanks, Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
Gregory wrote: You need to get over the sea from here to there. An alternative to swimming is to go in a plane, and unless you have a private jet you may be required to show your passport to someone. I think Ryan Air's policy requires you to have a passport. Actually, not quite. from http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/conditions.php?pos=MYFLIGHT For British and Irish citizens who are travelling on flights to/from the United Kingdom to/from the Republic of Ireland (Common Travel Area), a valid driving licence with photo is acceptable photo ID. Passengers who are citizens of other countries travelling on these routes must present a valid passport (with visa if applicable) or a National Identity Card issued by the government of a European Economic Area (EEA) country. .. although it's vague that a driving licence is good enough for their online check-in facility.. so they'll probably sting you for a check-in charge. If travelling with Ryanair, don't check in more than 15kg of hold luggage, or they'll really sting you in excess baggage charges. -- Simon Hewison ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Simon Hewison wrote: I think Ryan Air's policy requires you to have a passport. Actually, not quite. from http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/conditions.php?pos=MYFLIGHT I would recommend taking a passport with you if you're tempted to go with Ryanair. Two years ago my sister-in-law was refused entry to an internal Ryanair flight from London to Glasgow because she brought her (photo) driving licence rather than a passport. The reason given, and I can quote it exactly because it was so ridiculous, was that they might not let you fly back from Scotland without a passport. This meant she was unable to attend a family funeral, so despite having a direct Rynair flight from Edinburgh to Limerick I'm more than happy to fly to Dublin with Aer Lingus and take a train if it means I can avoid having anything whatsoever to do with Rynair... :-) -dair ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.refnum.com/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
They surely do accept european ID cards as I always used that at the immigration in Heathrow coming from France and going up to Scotland. In fact you could go through immigration in London only with your thick French accent, happened to me like 3 years ago. It was just after the bombings in London and I had lost all my IDs some time ago. Hopefully they were not too picky and let me board my flight to Aberdeen. I guess it's just a matter of really looking like who you're pretending to be :) Renaud. On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Renaud Martinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably any European ID proving your nationality would do but better to check. Usually they give advice when you book the flight. AIUI within the EU you only need to carry *some* kind of (probably official looking) photo identification, it doesn't have to be a passport (though that has the advantage of being recognised everywhere in the world). Between schengen countries you're not required to show it at the border. If you arrive at a londen airport it even says that ID cards are acceptable for EU citizens. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
You need to get over the sea from here to there. An alternative to swimming is to go in a plane, and unless you have a private jet you may be required to show your passport to someone. I think Ryan Air's policy requires you to have a passport. 2008/6/20 Dermot McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/6/20 Nick Whitelegg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everyone, Want to book accommodation for the SOTM weekend. (New passport finally arrived after quite a delay!) Are you not in the UK? You don't need a passport to get from there to here. Dermot -- -- Iren sind menschlich ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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On 23 Jun 2008, at 19:08, Gregory wrote: You need to get over the sea from here to there. An alternative to swimming is to go in a plane, and unless you have a private jet you may be required to show your passport to someone. I think Ryan Air's policy requires you to have a passport. I've never needed a passport flying to Ireland on Ryanair from the UK. Best Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
Hello everyone, Want to book accommodation for the SOTM weekend. (New passport finally arrived after quite a delay!) Does anyone have any recommendations? (e.g not too expensive, but comfortable) Thanks, Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
Nick, The Kilmurry Lodge itself has rooms of course, and still available when I last checked, details on the SOTM website. There are also a few BB's in Castletroy that are within walking distance of the Kilmurry Lodge. Limerick itself is a bus ride away where you will find a wider selection. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Whitelegg Sent: 20 June 2008 11:19 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation? Hello everyone, Want to book accommodation for the SOTM weekend. (New passport finally arrived after quite a delay!) Does anyone have any recommendations? (e.g not too expensive, but comfortable) Thanks, Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1510 - Release Date: 19/06/2008 3:21 PM ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
El Viernes, 20 de Junio de 2008, Nick Whitelegg escribió: Want to book accommodation for the SOTM weekend. (New passport finally arrived after quite a delay!) Does anyone have any recommendations? (e.g not too expensive, but comfortable) Check here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/State_Of_The_Map_2008/Accommodation ... and hurry up, because BBs are getting fully booked already! -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] Un ordenador no es un televisor ni un microondas, es una herramienta compleja. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM weekend accommodation?
2008/6/20 Nick Whitelegg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everyone, Want to book accommodation for the SOTM weekend. (New passport finally arrived after quite a delay!) Are you not in the UK? You don't need a passport to get from there to here. Dermot -- -- Iren sind menschlich ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
