[OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith

I can't see a time limit tag at all, there is a lot of free council car parks 
in various places but they may have a 2 or 3 hour time limit on them.


  

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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread Jack Stringer
I see a problem wiith this idea. Only because councils change the
times/prices reguarly. Often without notice. You can use many supermarket
car parks for 2 hours but that could change depening on the seasons.

Jack

On Jul 26, 2009 7:42 AM, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:


I can't see a time limit tag at all, there is a lot of free council car
parks in various places but they may have a 2 or 3 hour time limit on them.




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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread Peter Dörrie
I see a problem wiith this idea. Only because councils change the
times/prices reguarly. Often without notice. You can use many supermarket
car parks for 2 hours but that could change depening on the seasons

But it should be tagged nonetheless. The fact that there is a time
limitation for parking is more important than the exact duration of that
limitation. So maybe something like

time_limitation=yes
limitation_duration=3 (time in hours)

Greetings,

Peter
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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith

--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I see a problem wiith this idea.
 Only because councils change the times/prices reguarly.
 Often without notice. You can use many supermarket car parks
 for 2 hours but that could change depening on the seasons.

What councils do that?

What I was referring to is free parking lots and they have fixed signs and they 
rarely if ever change.

This isn't the same thing as on street parking which is also limited by time of 
day/day of week.



  

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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread Liz
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, Jack Stringer wrote:
 I see a problem wiith this idea. Only because councils change the
 times/prices reguarly. Often without notice. You can use many supermarket
 car parks for 2 hours but that could change depening on the seasons.

 Jack

 On Jul 26, 2009 7:42 AM, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:


 I can't see a time limit tag at all, there is a lot of free council car
 parks in various places but they may have a 2 or 3 hour time limit on them.





Councils change the street names, add bridges, close roads and change the 
speed limits too. And they don't ask us first.
If you think your car park time_limit changes too often, you could try 
time_limit=variable


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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith



--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com wrote:

 time_limitation=yes
 limitation_duration=3 (time in hours)

Well it's a restriction, so tagging it as such might be more consistent with 
other restrictions, eg.

restriction=time_limitation

I have no idea about how to tag the limitation though as it might include time 
of day/day of week limitations in some car parks, for example there might be 
explicitly no parking after 10pm so the limit would equal 0 or something to 
that effect.


  

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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith


 restriction=time_limitation

Actually time is usually used in tagging for time of day, so perhaps 
stay_limitation might be more applicable for how long you can stay in the car 
park.


  

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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Using the tag 'description=*' would help show users the most
noteworthy details along with the phone # to call for more info.

Cheers,
Sam

On 7/26/09, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:



 --- On Sun, 26/7/09, Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com wrote:

 time_limitation=yes
 limitation_duration=3 (time in hours)

 Well it's a restriction, so tagging it as such might be more consistent with
 other restrictions, eg.

 restriction=time_limitation

 I have no idea about how to tag the limitation though as it might include
 time of day/day of week limitations in some car parks, for example there
 might be explicitly no parking after 10pm so the limit would equal 0 or
 something to that effect.




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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread malenki
John Smith (delta_foxt...@yahoo.com)schrieb:

I can't see a time limit tag at all, there is a lot of free council
car parks in various places but they may have a 2 or 3 hour time limit
on them.

Maybe this helps:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Maximum_Stay

Regards
malenki


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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith

--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Using the tag 'description=*' would
 help show users the most
 noteworthy details along with the phone # to call for more
 info.

It'd be nice if it would be computer readable, not just human readable since 
then you could tell some routing software to take you to the nearest suitable 
parking area.


  

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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith



--- On Sun, 26/7/09, malenki o...@malenki.ch wrote:

 Maybe this helps:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Maximum_Stay

Doesn't look like it was approved, and it doesn't look like it would be 
nice/easy to parse by some kind of software, eg searching for a place to park.


  

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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread Cartinus
On Sunday 26 July 2009 10:29:06 John Smith wrote:
 --- On Sun, 26/7/09, malenki o...@malenki.ch wrote:
  Maybe this helps:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Maximum_Stay

 Doesn't look like it was approved, and it doesn't look like it would be
 nice/easy to parse by some kind of software, eg searching for a place to
 park.

It is used anyway.

What is difficult to parse? number,space,unit is parseable with a very simple 
regular expression. Even if you account for the fact that some people will 
forget the space.

When searching for a parking space, it is even simpler. The software you use 
for that, doesn't have to understand the tag. It just has to display it.

-- 
m.v.g.,
Cartinus

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Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=parking, time limit tag?

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith



--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 When searching for a parking space, it is even simpler. The
 software you use 
 for that, doesn't have to understand the tag. It just has
 to display it.

Ok you get back 50 results within a 2 block radius but if you could drill down 
so the software sorts if for you, say you want to park near X,Y for 8 hours


  

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