Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attributing Sources used in OSM

2012-05-15 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
Thanks for the replies so far. Is there anyone who can give official
confirmation as to whether
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors is the right place for
attribution statements? And does anyone know how you go about
proposing (and getting agreement for) a change to
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright so that it also directs users
to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors ?

Thanks,

Robert.

On 9 May 2012 09:08, Robert Whittaker (OSM)
robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've just been given permission to use some UK Local Government data
 relating to Public Footpaths and other Rights of Way in OpenStreetMap,
 under the terms of the Open Government License (OGL) [1]. In return
 the County Council is asking for a standard attribution based on the
 example given in the license. So far, so good.

 Assuming that local mappers agree if and how we make use of the data
 (ongoing discussion on the talk-gb lists), can I check that the right
 place to put this attribution would be in the wiki at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors ?

 Secondly, if that's the case, then surely there needs to be an obvious
 way to reach that page from the main OSM page. From
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/ , I can easily get to
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright by following the Copyright 
 License link in the left-hand bar. But, unless I'm missing something,
 the trail then runs cold. That page contains a few attribution
 statements / acknowledgements for major data providers, but I'd have
 thought it should also link to
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors for further detail and
 additional statements. Should a link along the lines or For further
 details about these and other sources used to compile the map, please
 see ... be added just below the bulleted list of countries near the
 bottom of http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright ?

 (Ok, so you can get to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors
 from the main page by clicking Documentation on the main OSM page,
 and then Contributors from the left-hand bar of the wiki. But given
 the presence of the Copyright  License on the main page, and the
 attribution statements contained at
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright , I don't think a reasonable
 person would consider looking anywhere else for additional
 attributions.)

 Thanks,

 Robert.

 [1] http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attributing Sources used in OSM

2012-05-09 Thread David Groom



- Original Message - 
From: Robert Whittaker (OSM) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com

To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:08 AM
Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Attributing Sources used in OSM



I've just been given permission to use some UK Local Government data
relating to Public Footpaths and other Rights of Way in OpenStreetMap,
under the terms of the Open Government License (OGL) [1]. In return
the County Council is asking for a standard attribution based on the
example given in the license. So far, so good.

Assuming that local mappers agree if and how we make use of the data
(ongoing discussion on the talk-gb lists), can I check that the right
place to put this attribution would be in the wiki at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors ?

Secondly, if that's the case, then surely there needs to be an obvious
way to reach that page from the main OSM page. From
http://www.openstreetmap.org/ , I can easily get to
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright by following the Copyright 
License link in the left-hand bar. But, unless I'm missing something,
the trail then runs cold. That page contains a few attribution
statements / acknowledgements for major data providers, but I'd have
thought it should also link to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors for further detail and
additional statements. Should a link along the lines or For further
details about these and other sources used to compile the map, please
see ... be added just below the bulleted list of countries near the
bottom of http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright ?


That would seem a good first step.

It does of course leave open the question as to why some data providers are 
listed on the copyright page, and others on the contributors page.  I'm 
not sure if this is deliberate, or just the nature of different people 
editing the wiki and putting things in different places.


David




(Ok, so you can get to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors
from the main page by clicking Documentation on the main OSM page,
and then Contributors from the left-hand bar of the wiki. But given
the presence of the Copyright  License on the main page, and the
attribution statements contained at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright , I don't think a reasonable
person would consider looking anywhere else for additional
attributions.)

Thanks,

Robert.

[1] http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attributing Sources used in OSM

2012-05-09 Thread Andy Robinson
Robert Whittaker (OSM) [mailto:robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com] wrote:
 Sent: 09 May 2012 09:08
 To: Licensing and other legal discussions.
 Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Attributing Sources used in OSM
 
 I've just been given permission to use some UK Local Government data
 relating to Public Footpaths and other Rights of Way in OpenStreetMap,
 under the terms of the Open Government License (OGL) [1]. In return the
 County Council is asking for a standard attribution based on the example
 given in the license. So far, so good.
 
 Assuming that local mappers agree if and how we make use of the data
 (ongoing discussion on the talk-gb lists), can I check that the right
place to put
 this attribution would be in the wiki at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors ?
 
 Secondly, if that's the case, then surely there needs to be an obvious way
to
 reach that page from the main OSM page. From
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/ , I can easily get to
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright by following the Copyright 
 License link in the left-hand bar. But, unless I'm missing something, the
trail
 then runs cold. That page contains a few attribution statements /
 acknowledgements for major data providers, but I'd have thought it should
 also link to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors for further
 detail and additional statements. Should a link along the lines or For
further
 details about these and other sources used to compile the map, please see
 ... be added just below the bulleted list of countries near the bottom of
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright ?
 

It would seem that the Our contributors section of the
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright should either contain the contents of
the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors page of take visitors
directly to it. Maintaining an ever changing main page is clearly not
sustainable.

Cheers
Andy 



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