Re: [OSM-talk] CC-TV, ANPR GATSOs
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone mapping the positioning of these devices in the UK? I don't yet have a GPS :o| Is there an easy guide on how to contribute? For those outside the UK, the UK is currently the most surveiled society in the world. ANPR is a network of automatic numberplate recognition cameras on all routes. All our journeys are logged and kept for two years. We also have more closed circuit cameras that all other countries. GATSOs are the Belgian made traffic speed cameras, which are used partly for safety and partly for revenue generation. Coming to most contries soon :o( Be aware that wondering around taking pictures of CC-TV cameras is a very good way of getting yourself arrested :-( Police have a tendency to regard this as information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism, and while you may be able to convince them you had a reasonable excuse I wouldn't count on it to avoid a lot of inconvenience. I know someone who had 5 police officers erase his camera for taking pictures of cc-tv around the south bank of the thames... which is technically illegal (erasing the pictures without due process), but did mean they then just let him go. You might have more luck with the speed cameras. Dave ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] CC-TV, ANPR GATSOs
Greg wrote: Is anyone mapping the positioning of these devices in the UK? I don't yet have a GPS :o| Is there an easy guide on how to contribute? For those outside the UK, the UK is currently the most surveiled society in the world. ANPR is a network of automatic numberplate recognition cameras on all routes. All our journeys are logged and kept for two years. We also have more closed circuit cameras that all other countries. GATSOs are the Belgian made traffic speed cameras, which are used partly for safety and partly for revenue generation. Coming to most contries soon :o( [Off topic I know - sorry] ANPR cameras are not on all routes, very far from it. All of our journeys are not logged. Many (most?) of the Gatso cameras that needed film didn't have film in them but many of the newer Truvelos are digital. They still only record an image if you exceed the speed limit. cheers, Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] CC-TV, ANPR GATSOs
Martin Dodge is a researcher that about 5 years ago did some work on mapping CCTV in Bloomsbury London. I dont know exactly what did come from that, as I was only briefly involved in the data collection process. Might be worth having a chat with him. And no, we didnt get arrested or harrassed thankfully. http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/staff/m.dodge/cybergeography//martin/martin.html Greg wrote: Is anyone mapping the positioning of these devices in the UK? I don't yet have a GPS :o| Is there an easy guide on how to contribute? For those outside the UK, the UK is currently the most surveiled society in the world. ANPR is a network of automatic numberplate recognition cameras on all routes. All our journeys are logged and kept for two years. We also have more closed circuit cameras that all other countries. GATSOs are the Belgian made traffic speed cameras, which are used partly for safety and partly for revenue generation. Coming to most contries soon :o( ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk begin:vcard fn:Patrick Weber n:Weber;Patrick org:University College London adr:;;Gower Street;London;;WC1E 6BT;United Kingdom email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Engineering Doctorate Student tel;work:02077185430 url:http://www.ucl.ac.uk/cemi version:2.1 end:vcard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] CC-TV, ANPR GATSOs
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Stefan Baebler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: excuse I wouldn't count on it to avoid a lot of inconvenience. I know someone who had 5 police officers erase his camera for taking pictures of cc-tv around the south bank of the thames... which is technically illegal (erasing the pictures without due process), but did mean they then just let him go. Not to mention it is also highly inefficient unless done properly :) 1 or 10 officers would probably make no difference. :-) If you watched any of the torch protest in london yesterday, then you'll know the met police are very good at forming rings round things... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
