Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Postal an idea to extend Walking-Papers to not connected people
El Domingo, 16 de Agosto de 2009, Shaun McDonald escribió: I'd like the option to be able to use the nonames style, as there is often people looking for unnamed streets and POIs. +1 Some of us have only black-and-white printers. Is there any possibility of developing a new B/W map style?? (Less use of colors, more use of dashed lines, pattern fills and such) An easier way to print off several adjacent maps for a mapping party would be useful. +1 Though, if A3 size or larger maps could be printed, there is client-side software capable of splitting that into A4 sheets (KDE has that festure built-in since ages ago). Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Q: How many Zen masters does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: None. The Universe spins the bulb, and the Zen master stays out of the way. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Postal an idea to extend Walking-Papers to not connected people
On 17/08/2009 13:30, Emilie Laffray wrote: 2009/8/17 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es mailto:i...@sanchezortega.es Some of us have only black-and-white printers. Is there any possibility of developing a new B/W map style?? (Less use of colors, more use of dashed lines, pattern fills and such) +1 Emilie Laffray and +1 from me too. David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Postal an idea to extend Walking-Papers to not connected people
I made the mistake of ignoring my OSM-talk mail for a few days, I'm really happy to see that people are thinking of ways to work with Walking Papers. I've been building up some steam to work on another set of change requests, now's the time to ask if you have a pet feature you'd like to see added. =) Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I've added these and others to the issues page on Github: http://github.com/migurski/paperwalking/issues I've ordered them very roughly from top to bottom, based on ease of implementation and likelihood. Github seems to have an issue voting system I've never used, maybe this would be useful. If you have some thoughts on importance / details of any issue, try leaving a comment. -mike. michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Postal an idea to extend Walking-Papers to not connected people
1. Gridlines/graticules - makes it easier to interpolate relative distances. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Michal Migurskim...@stamen.com wrote: It is really an excellent idea. I was planning to organize a walking paper mail out in my home town in a few months to see how it could work out. I was planning in my case to contact the mayor office to see if I could coordinate with them if they were interested. The idea of postcard is very good. If you need help, let me know I will see what I could do. I printed out two copies each of six areas in Liverpool and left them in two cafés. On the other side of the paper I put some text briefly describing the project and asking that people either hand it in to one of the cafés or scan it in and email it to me - didn't have much space and I was hoping people realised they could post it back if they wanted. So far I don't know if anyone has completed an area, I'm not aware of them being handed in and haven't received an email, but I know a few have been taken and they even got me in touch with a Slovakian person with an interest in OSM who happened to be in Liverpool! If you're interested this is what I put on the reverse side, if I do it again I'll add a title saying what area is covered though in my case it should have been guessable from the existing coverage: http://johnmckerrell.com/files/osm-walking-papers-cover.pdf Cool! I made the mistake of ignoring my OSM-talk mail for a few days, I'm really happy to see that people are thinking of ways to work with Walking Papers. I've been building up some steam to work on another set of change requests, now's the time to ask if you have a pet feature you'd like to see added. =) -mike. michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Postal an idea to extend Walking-Papers to not connected people
On 15 Aug 2009, at 00:38, Michal Migurski wrote: Cool! I made the mistake of ignoring my OSM-talk mail for a few days, I'm really happy to see that people are thinking of ways to work with Walking Papers. I've been building up some steam to work on another set of change requests, now's the time to ask if you have a pet feature you'd like to see added. =) -mike. I'd like the option to be able to use the nonames style, as there is often people looking for unnamed streets and POIs. An easier way to print off several adjacent maps for a mapping party would be useful. Shaun ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Shaun McDonaldsh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: An easier way to print off several adjacent maps for a mapping party would be useful. +1 Or even for personal use. Cheers, Adam ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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The ability to print to larger sizes than A4, A3 would be nice because you can get a group of people around and gather local knowledge. Ability to add a scaled grid. So I can walk down a road and map square by square. Jack Stringer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Postal an idea to extend Walking-Papers to not connected people
It is really an excellent idea. I was planning to organize a walking paper mail out in my home town in a few months to see how it could work out. I was planning in my case to contact the mayor office to see if I could coordinate with them if they were interested. The idea of postcard is very good. If you need help, let me know I will see what I could do. I printed out two copies each of six areas in Liverpool and left them in two cafés. On the other side of the paper I put some text briefly describing the project and asking that people either hand it in to one of the cafés or scan it in and email it to me - didn't have much space and I was hoping people realised they could post it back if they wanted. So far I don't know if anyone has completed an area, I'm not aware of them being handed in and haven't received an email, but I know a few have been taken and they even got me in touch with a Slovakian person with an interest in OSM who happened to be in Liverpool! If you're interested this is what I put on the reverse side, if I do it again I'll add a title saying what area is covered though in my case it should have been guessable from the existing coverage: http://johnmckerrell.com/files/osm-walking-papers-cover.pdf Cool! I made the mistake of ignoring my OSM-talk mail for a few days, I'm really happy to see that people are thinking of ways to work with Walking Papers. I've been building up some steam to work on another set of change requests, now's the time to ask if you have a pet feature you'd like to see added. =) -mike. michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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2009/8/11 PB p...@osgeo.org Hi, I'm PB from Cuba, and I would like to share an idea to extend the use of Walking-Papers. The intention is to reach all those people whom do not have an e-mail or Internet access, and in many cases not even a computer. We are proposing use the postal mail to send printed maps (Walking-Papers or printed screen captures from OSM) and gather them (marked) using the same way. Until now, this is only an idea. I have made some test with excelent results, so I would like to know about similar experiences or maybe some recommendation to improve the performance... A few loose thoughts: - Organize a campain for printed media or radio maybe - To reward the most outstanding contributions - Something else? Just add an special thanks to the guys from the German community, who have been helping to grow our map. It is really an excellent idea. I was planning to organize a walking paper mail out in my home town in a few months to see how it could work out. I was planning in my case to contact the mayor office to see if I could coordinate with them if they were interested. The idea of postcard is very good. If you need help, let me know I will see what I could do. Emilie Laffray ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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On 12 Aug 2009, at 10:13, Emilie Laffray wrote: It is really an excellent idea. I was planning to organize a walking paper mail out in my home town in a few months to see how it could work out. I was planning in my case to contact the mayor office to see if I could coordinate with them if they were interested. The idea of postcard is very good. If you need help, let me know I will see what I could do. I printed out two copies each of six areas in Liverpool and left them in two cafés. On the other side of the paper I put some text briefly describing the project and asking that people either hand it in to one of the cafés or scan it in and email it to me - didn't have much space and I was hoping people realised they could post it back if they wanted. So far I don't know if anyone has completed an area, I'm not aware of them being handed in and haven't received an email, but I know a few have been taken and they even got me in touch with a Slovakian person with an interest in OSM who happened to be in Liverpool! If you're interested this is what I put on the reverse side, if I do it again I'll add a title saying what area is covered though in my case it should have been guessable from the existing coverage: http://johnmckerrell.com/files/osm-walking-papers-cover.pdf John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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2009/8/12 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net I printed out two copies each of six areas in Liverpool and left them in two cafés. On the other side of the paper I put some text briefly describing the project and asking that people either hand it in to one of the cafés or scan it in and email it to me - didn't have much space and I was hoping people realised they could post it back if they wanted. So far I don't know if anyone has completed an area, I'm not aware of them being handed in and haven't received an email, but I know a few have been taken and they even got me in touch with a Slovakian person with an interest in OSM who happened to be in Liverpool! If you're interested this is what I put on the reverse side, if I do it again I'll add a title saying what area is covered though in my case it should have been guessable from the existing coverage: http://johnmckerrell.com/files/osm-walking-papers-cover.pdf Thank you for the PDF. I was thinking of something along those lines. It is nice to see that someone already has written some explanation on why it matters. I don't have time right now to start this project as I want as many streets as possible in my hometown and its surrounding (thanks to the cadastre in France), so I can get a strong enough base for people to add useful information. Thanks again for this. It would be interesting to know how long ago you did this. I haven't been going very far yet in the page. I was thinking of including in the end a website where some basic instructions were given to people interested as a light documentation. In fact, I had no plan to mention it until I saw the subject so I couldn't resist barging in. Emilie Laffray ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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On 12 Aug 2009, at 14:02, Emilie Laffray wrote: Thank you for the PDF. I was thinking of something along those lines. It is nice to see that someone already has written some explanation on why it matters. I don't have time right now to start this project as I want as many streets as possible in my hometown and its surrounding (thanks to the cadastre in France), so I can get a strong enough base for people to add useful information. Thanks again for this. It would be interesting to know how long ago you did this. I haven't been going very far yet in the page. I was thinking of including in the end a website where some basic instructions were given to people interested as a light documentation. In fact, I had no plan to mention it until I saw the subject so I couldn't resist barging in. Actually it looks like it was about 3.5 weeks ago so perhaps it wasn't all that successful, the guy at one Café/Art Gallery was intending to do a blog post so I might prod him about that. John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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I had the idea of printing a map and taking it to a local Parish (Village) Meeting and see if I can drum up some interest there. In our village I would like to put in all the houses and postcodes because many of the delivery drivers get lost around here. Posting maps is a good idea for getting locals involved. As long as you can get it to locals who are interested in the map. The incentive is that once all the data is back they will then receive a colour version of the map. Jack Stringer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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In the US, the Post Office offers something called Business Reply Mail. You print out postcards of a certain size with special markings on them (in addition to your content). When someone drops them in the mail the post office charges the sender and ships the card back to you. I wonder if a few dozen of these types of postcards left at coffee shops in the states would get filled out and mailed off to someone who could then collate the results and enter them into the DB. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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El Miércoles, 12 de Agosto de 2009, PB escribió: We are proposing use the postal mail to send printed maps [...] A few loose thoughts: - Organize a campain for printed media or radio maybe - To reward the most outstanding contributions - Something else? Local chapter + funding + printed paper maps (full color, glossy paper, etc). One of the most rewarding things of contributing to OSM is to see your work in the finished map, so just print some nice ones and send them to the people that contributed. Oh, and cakes. Everybody likes map cakes. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es El sexo es la vía más rápida de acabar con la amistad. -- Vickie (Reality Bites, 1994) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:04 PM, PBp...@osgeo.org wrote: Hi, I'm PB from Cuba, and I would like to share an idea to extend the use of Walking-Papers. The intention is to reach all those people whom do not have an e-mail or Internet access, and in many cases not even a computer. We are proposing use the postal mail to send printed maps (Walking-Papers or printed screen captures from OSM) and gather them (marked) using the same way. The Walking Papers people have already offered to send and accept maps by postal mail. See Mike Migurski's blog here: http://mike.teczno.com/notes/2009/ [quoting in part] Each print and scan action is also backed by a (possibly optimistic) promise to snail-mail printed maps to users, and to accept snail-mailed annotated maps in return. If you want to play neogeography pen-pal or simply don't have a scanner at your disposal, Walking Papers can help. [ end quote from Mike's blog ] If I remember correctly, at SotM2009 Mike said that so far nobody has asked for the postal mail service. Now, a political question. Is there postal service between USA and Cuba? Perhaps an off-shore version of Walking Papers is required? Best regards, Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Now, a political question. Is there postal service between USA and Cuba? Perhaps an off-shore version of Walking Papers is required? I don't think embargoes usually extend to letters, the same can't be said for packages however. I looked this stuff up a very long time ago and the details aren't so clear any more. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
