Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Garmin - raster tiles?
Dermot McNally wrote: 2009/1/6 Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net: But it's still fairly ugly :-) As ugly as upside-down labels? To avoid those (if you will allow track up mode) I'm quite happy to have north up, just like I get in my web browser :-) Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Garmin - raster tiles?
2009/1/6 Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net: But it's still fairly ugly :-) As ugly as upside-down labels? To avoid those (if you will allow track up mode) you'd have to have a combination raster and vector mode, which would in turn require a label-free raster map. Dermot -- -- Iren sind menschlich ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Garmin - raster tiles?
BTW if you mean ugly as in ugly icons, you can create your own by defining a TYP file. Just don't expect too much from a 24x24 bitmap Igor On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.netwrote: Igor Brejc wrote: What kind of a problem are you having with POIs? What do you mean by useful? I'm wondering because I'm working right now on POIs for GroundTruth. Actually, it's not as bad as I thought. They didn't show on the zoom level I was using, and some I expected to be there aren't actually in the data yet. But it's still fairly ugly :-) Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Garmin - raster tiles?
A quick google came up with this: http://freegeographytools.com/2008/converting-raster-maps-to-garmin-vector-format-with-bmap2mp I had previously heard of Moagu, as noted in that article, but strayed away from it due to being somewhat unfree. 2009/1/6 Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net: When I heard about the possibility of OSM on Garmin, I imagined something like the Mapnik Slippy Map on my GPS screen. Now I have a Legend HCx, it turns out that I get the Garmin vector rendering with OSM data behind it. This is clearly much better than nothing, but does the gmapsupp.img format support stuffing in a load of raster tiles, or is it vector data only? (Obviously, you'd lose the ability to route with raster.) Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Garmin - raster tiles?
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net wrote: When I heard about the possibility of OSM on Garmin, I imagined something like the Mapnik Slippy Map on my GPS screen. Now I have a Legend HCx, it turns out that I get the Garmin vector rendering with OSM data behind it. This is clearly much better than nothing, but does the gmapsupp.img format support stuffing in a load of raster tiles, or is it vector data only? (Obviously, you'd lose the ability to route with raster.) Gerv The new Colorado and Oregon models seem to support some sort of raster images natively, as evidenced by the Ordnance Survey maps recently released (Garmin GB Discoverer) [1]. However, the format of those is not publicly known. If you want to use raster images, the new Delorme PN-40 (and the older, slower PN-20) support raster nicely, and with a $100 add-on called XMap, you can add your own georeferenced images to your GPS, so you could use something like slippy map tiles. Caveat if you're looking to use Delorme maps: The currently available maps and aerial imagery from Delorme seem to cover only the US. Karl [1] http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?s=showtopic=205902view=findpostp=3778507 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Garmin - raster tiles?
Gervase Markham wrote: When I heard about the possibility of OSM on Garmin, I imagined something like the Mapnik Slippy Map on my GPS screen. Now I have a Legend HCx, it turns out that I get the Garmin vector rendering with OSM data behind it. This is clearly much better than nothing, but does the gmapsupp.img format support stuffing in a load of raster tiles, or is it vector data only? (Obviously, you'd lose the ability to route with raster.) Gerv IMHO converting OSM vector data into raster images and then showing them on a Garmin unit would mean losing a lot of quality and speed, not to mention how much more memory card space such maps would consume. And, as you mentioned, you loose the ability to select map objects. Bitmaps on Garmin would be nice for data which is originally stored as bitmaps (like satellite imagery) or for hill shading. I'm working on a new mapmaker tool for Garmin maps (http://igorbrejc.net/development/continuous-integration/groundtruth-a-new-garmin-mapmaking-tool). I haven't planned any support for bitmaps, but now it got me into thinking - maybe I'll add it after all ;) Igor -- http://igorbrejc.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Garmin - raster tiles?
Igor Brejc wrote: IMHO converting OSM vector data into raster images and then showing them on a Garmin unit would mean losing a lot of quality and speed, not to mention how much more memory card space such maps would consume. Could be. But they'd look a heck of a lot nicer, and have useful POIs on them. (Perhaps I could get better POIs by working out how to tweak the current compilation process...) Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Garmin - raster tiles?
Gervase Markham wrote: Igor Brejc wrote: IMHO converting OSM vector data into raster images and then showing them on a Garmin unit would mean losing a lot of quality and speed, not to mention how much more memory card space such maps would consume. Could be. But they'd look a heck of a lot nicer, and have useful POIs on them. (Perhaps I could get better POIs by working out how to tweak the current compilation process...) Gerv What kind of a problem are you having with POIs? What do you mean by useful? I'm wondering because I'm working right now on POIs for GroundTruth. Igor -- http://igorbrejc.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Garmin - raster tiles?
Igor Brejc wrote: What kind of a problem are you having with POIs? What do you mean by useful? I'm wondering because I'm working right now on POIs for GroundTruth. Actually, it's not as bad as I thought. They didn't show on the zoom level I was using, and some I expected to be there aren't actually in the data yet. But it's still fairly ugly :-) Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk