Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects / possible data source

2011-09-08 Thread Erik Lundin
I don't know if I have got this discussion wrong, but I have seen at 
least two community projects that are trying to build databases of 
locations of different wireless networks: http://openbmap.org/ and 
http://opencellid.org/


/ Erik

[1] http://opencellid.org/

2011-08-07 23:50, John Smith skrev:

On 8 August 2011 07:46, Richard Weaitrich...@weait.com  wrote:

As I remember it from previous discussions, wifi locations are
somewhat transient for OSM.  Cell tower locations are likely from
government databases are they not?


Google etc estimate location of towers by using data handsets expose.


Given that this would be a 'complete' dataset from another source, why
duplicate (and eventually synchronize) it with OSM, when it should be
possible to display them together in a mash up?


If there is GPS data involved that might be more useful than the tower
estimations etc.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects / possible data source

2011-08-08 Thread Florian Hannemann
hi

just an idea. would it be possible to include the WiFi or Celltower information 
that are collected by crowdflow.net into open street map?
maybe someone could ask them if they are willing to provide there data ;-)

bye AssetBurned

On 05.07.2011, at 18:48, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:

 2011/7/5 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
 Maybe we should simply have a link Related Projects pointing to
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Related_Project in this location?
 
 
 Maybe we can also open a discussion about this related projects
 list. IMHO googlemapmaker - although having a similar approach - is
 not related to OSM. I'd delete all of the projects there that have a
 no in the license column, i.e. all copyrighted. IMHO OSM is not
 related to projects that collect proprietary data.
 
 cheers,
 Martin
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects / possible data source

2011-08-07 Thread assetburned
hi

just an idea. would it be possible to include the WiFi or Celltower information 
that are collected by crowdflow.net into open street map?
maybe someone could ask them if they are willing to provide there data ;-)

bye AssetBurned

On 05.07.2011, at 18:48, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:

 2011/7/5 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
 Maybe we should simply have a link Related Projects pointing to
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Related_Project in this location?
 
 
 Maybe we can also open a discussion about this related projects
 list. IMHO googlemapmaker - although having a similar approach - is
 not related to OSM. I'd delete all of the projects there that have a
 no in the license column, i.e. all copyrighted. IMHO OSM is not
 related to projects that collect proprietary data.
 
 cheers,
 Martin
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects / possible data source

2011-08-07 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:42 PM, assetburned
openstreet...@assetburned.de wrote:
 hi

 just an idea. would it be possible to include the WiFi or Celltower 
 information that are collected by crowdflow.net into open street map?
 maybe someone could ask them if they are willing to provide there data ;-)

As I remember it from previous discussions, wifi locations are
somewhat transient for OSM.  Cell tower locations are likely from
government databases are they not?

Given that this would be a 'complete' dataset from another source, why
duplicate (and eventually synchronize) it with OSM, when it should be
possible to display them together in a mash up?

Mind you, combining towers and frequencies with terrain and building
outlines would make a fun project for estimating propagation.  ;-)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects / possible data source

2011-08-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 August 2011 07:46, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 As I remember it from previous discussions, wifi locations are
 somewhat transient for OSM.  Cell tower locations are likely from
 government databases are they not?

Google etc estimate location of towers by using data handsets expose.

 Given that this would be a 'complete' dataset from another source, why
 duplicate (and eventually synchronize) it with OSM, when it should be
 possible to display them together in a mash up?

If there is GPS data involved that might be more useful than the tower
estimations etc.

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