Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 14:33 -0400, Blake Crosby wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, There is already a page in the wiki for trails (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapping/Features/Trail), but this is really just tagging a way with permitted usage (such as footpath, cyclepath, etc.). Is there any way of marking a 'trail', where a marked route which may exist on other ways in part or as a whole? I think following the current bus route tagging scheme might be a good start? A trail or walking route is no different than a cycling route and bus route.. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:route I miss in the route key a way for Gran Recorrido (Big distance) routes here in Spain, which are routes which cover several kms, off road most of the time, but which use footways, normal tracks (where motor vehicles are allowed), some roads, etc. So how would I tag this? Does the route need to be its own way, or should we just tag the roads/footways/tracks the route uses with the route tag? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails
Rodrigo Moya wrote: Sent: 18 March 2008 10:49 AM To: Blake Crosby Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 14:33 -0400, Blake Crosby wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, There is already a page in the wiki for trails (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapping/Features/Trail), but this is really just tagging a way with permitted usage (such as footpath, cyclepath, etc.). Is there any way of marking a 'trail', where a marked route which may exist on other ways in part or as a whole? I think following the current bus route tagging scheme might be a good start? A trail or walking route is no different than a cycling route and bus route.. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:route I miss in the route key a way for Gran Recorrido (Big distance) routes here in Spain, which are routes which cover several kms, off road most of the time, but which use footways, normal tracks (where motor vehicles are allowed), some roads, etc. So how would I tag this? Does the route need to be its own way, or should we just tag the roads/footways/tracks the route uses with the route tag? I've tagged some in UK as route=long_distance_footpath as that's what they are commonly referred to here. You could also add a specific gran_recorrido=true or long_distance_footpath=gran_recorrido tag to achieve something similar that's country specific as well. Cheers Andy -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 10:55 +, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Rodrigo Moya wrote: Sent: 18 March 2008 10:49 AM To: Blake Crosby Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 14:33 -0400, Blake Crosby wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, There is already a page in the wiki for trails (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapping/Features/Trail), but this is really just tagging a way with permitted usage (such as footpath, cyclepath, etc.). Is there any way of marking a 'trail', where a marked route which may exist on other ways in part or as a whole? I think following the current bus route tagging scheme might be a good start? A trail or walking route is no different than a cycling route and bus route.. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:route I miss in the route key a way for Gran Recorrido (Big distance) routes here in Spain, which are routes which cover several kms, off road most of the time, but which use footways, normal tracks (where motor vehicles are allowed), some roads, etc. So how would I tag this? Does the route need to be its own way, or should we just tag the roads/footways/tracks the route uses with the route tag? I've tagged some in UK as route=long_distance_footpath as that's what they are commonly referred to here. You could also add a specific gran_recorrido=true or long_distance_footpath=gran_recorrido tag to achieve something similar that's country specific as well. well, this wouldn't work really, since as I said, it is not a footpath, it's a route going over existing tracks/roads/cities, which means that lots of parts of the route can be used on a motor vehicle. It really doesn't matter that the way isn't itself a footpath. It's the route which is a walking route. Terms like long_distance_route don't make much sense as it doesn't tell you what it's meant for, whereas long_distance_footpath tells you that you probably shouldn't try to follow the route in a Ferrari, even if in certain parts you could get away with it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, There is already a page in the wiki for trails (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapping/Features/Trail), but this is really just tagging a way with permitted usage (such as footpath, cyclepath, etc.). Is there any way of marking a 'trail', where a marked route which may exist on other ways in part or as a whole? I think following the current bus route tagging scheme might be a good start? A trail or walking route is no different than a cycling route and bus route.. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:route Blake ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, There is already a page in the wiki for trails (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapping/Features/Trail), but this is really just tagging a way with permitted usage (such as footpath, cyclepath, etc.). Is there any way of marking a 'trail', where a marked route which may exist on other ways in part or as a whole? Primarily I am thinking a walking trail (say called 'Dead man's leap' ;-) which might start at a parking location (trail head?) and follow a road for 1km, footpath for 2km, ford a stream, etc.. These might also be more extensive, such as 'Route 66' (USA) or 'Cowboy Trail' (Alberta, Canada). If not, I would propose another category of way; which would be mapped as an additional way at the same locations as the normal ways. There could be a node 'trail head' for the start/trail head/staging post, and 'trail point'(??) for directional/informational locations. Specifying a trail type (car, walking, horse, cycle, snow-mobile, etc) would also be sensible. [Thinking more as I type this, is this not also applicable for bus routes?] In terms for rendering I think that this would not normally be rendered on the normal maps, but a 'tourist map' might include these as a dot-dashed(??) line. Cheers, Mungewell Take a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Routes, the cyclemap currently has support for them, and I'm thinking about rendering long distance paths (UK term for a trail) for one local project I'm involved in. -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tourist/Leisure Trails
Hello, On Mar 17, 2008, at 19:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way of marking a 'trail', where a marked route which may exist on other ways in part or as a whole? This should probably be done using a route relation: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Routes Cheers Robert ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
