Re: [OSM-talk] Why doesn't OSM implement a simple measure to protectit's users and passwords?

2009-12-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
There also does not appear to be any provision on the OSM web site for changing 
to a new password, which is something that one should do occasionally.  At 
least, if there is a way to do so, I haven't found it.

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think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria

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From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:11:43 
To: Talk Openstreetmaptalk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Why doesn't OSM implement a simple measure to protect
it's users and passwords?

When does anyone plan to use SSL to protect passwords and users on OSM?

I noticed the other day about how JOSM puts this in it's MOTD:

Your username and password are sent to the server unencrypted. If you
do not like this, do not upload.

While I'm aware that this is occurring, many others may not and may be
put off with statements like the above. While removing that statement
from JOSM might fix some of the image problems, it doesn't do anything
for real security.

There has even been a bug on this issue for 3 years!

http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/275

This is even more concerning when you add into the mix the UK
government is trying to record globs and globs of additional
information on data travelling across internet links in the UK, among
other things.

http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/22/mobile_imp/

As has been pointed out on the trac ticket, OSM should be eligible for
a free cert from godaddy, then there is ideological reasons for
supporting other options like CAcert, just like many support OSM for
ideological reasons rather than Google.

I realise there is some APIs floating about that use alternative
authentication schemes, but the majority of users will be sending
their passwords (and everything else for that matter) clear text over
the internet for all and sundry to snoop on.

Is it really reasonable to not offer SSL encryption?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Why doesn't OSM implement a simple measure to protectit's users and passwords?

2009-12-22 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 22/12/2009 16:27, John F. Eldredge wrote:
 There also does not appear to be any provision on the OSM web site for 
 changing to a new password

See http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/your display name/account
where there are two password boxes. Fill them both in to change your
password.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Why doesn't OSM implement a simple measure to protectit's users and passwords?

2009-12-22 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/22 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com:
 There also does not appear to be any provision on the OSM web site for 
 changing to a new password, which is something that one should do 
 occasionally.  At least, if there is a way to do so, I haven't found it.


Select your name at the top, (Its a link)

Then My Settings

Change you password and save changes.

Peter.

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 Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to 
 think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria

 -Original Message-
 From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:11:43
 To: Talk Openstreetmaptalk@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: [OSM-talk] Why doesn't OSM implement a simple measure to protect
        it's users and passwords?

 When does anyone plan to use SSL to protect passwords and users on OSM?

 I noticed the other day about how JOSM puts this in it's MOTD:

 Your username and password are sent to the server unencrypted. If you
 do not like this, do not upload.

 While I'm aware that this is occurring, many others may not and may be
 put off with statements like the above. While removing that statement
 from JOSM might fix some of the image problems, it doesn't do anything
 for real security.

 There has even been a bug on this issue for 3 years!

 http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/275

 This is even more concerning when you add into the mix the UK
 government is trying to record globs and globs of additional
 information on data travelling across internet links in the UK, among
 other things.

 http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/22/mobile_imp/

 As has been pointed out on the trac ticket, OSM should be eligible for
 a free cert from godaddy, then there is ideological reasons for
 supporting other options like CAcert, just like many support OSM for
 ideological reasons rather than Google.

 I realise there is some APIs floating about that use alternative
 authentication schemes, but the majority of users will be sending
 their passwords (and everything else for that matter) clear text over
 the internet for all and sundry to snoop on.

 Is it really reasonable to not offer SSL encryption?

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