Re: [OSM-talk] strange gaps filled by water at zoomlevel 18

2013-03-09 Thread Pavel Melnikov
 Hello again everybody!
I'm continuing exploration about that water bug, and I've found the limit
of that effect, which is a huge 200km*2000km rectangle :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?box=yesbbox=81.23549%2C54.060041%2C85.627667%2C68.841992
Some edge pictures are:
East
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=55.27545lon=85.627667zoom=18layers=M
South
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.08514lon=83.40566zoom=18layers=M
West
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=58.858448lon=81.23549zoom=18layers=M
North
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=68.841992lon=82.550755zoom=18layers=M
I've found no strange geometry at the edges of the rectangle, and the edges
do not always coinside with tiles edges (see this for example:
http://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/190225/73869.png)

So the problem affects not only my city, but a huge 2000x200km area, and I
have no idea how to locate the error. Any suggestions here?


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello fellow osmers!

 I've been looking at my local area on osm at zoomlevel 18, and it appears
 thast someone broke something, or that something broke on its
 own) Specifically, all areas that are not tagged have become filled with
 water:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.843997lon=83.061967zoom=18layers=M.
 At lower zoomlevels it is all good, ground is where it should be.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.84377lon=83.06238zoom=17layers=M.
 Water stretches pretty far from where it should be, at least some 10 km
 from Ob reservoir is still filled with water (
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.827715lon=83.196056zoom=18layers=M
 ).

 I believe it broke recently, because there were some correct
 (ground-filled) tiles at zoomlevel 18, and they were generated back in Jan
 or Feb, now  when I'm recreating them, they get filled with water.

 Can anyone help me with the direction to dig for a problem? Is it some
 tagging mistake, or broken polygon? How do I locate it?

 Best wishes,
   Pavel.

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Re: [OSM-talk] strange gaps filled by water at zoomlevel 18

2013-03-09 Thread Clifford Snow
That's really odd. Looking at the NW corner, I couldn't find any nodes,
ways, or multipolygons. It appears to only be broken in Mapnik. The other
styles render fine. I'd suggest a bug report - trac.openstreetmap.org

Clifford


On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello again everybody!
 I'm continuing exploration about that water bug, and I've found the limit
 of that effect, which is a huge 200km*2000km rectangle :

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?box=yesbbox=81.23549%2C54.060041%2C85.627667%2C68.841992
 Some edge pictures are:
 East
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=55.27545lon=85.627667zoom=18layers=M
 South
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.08514lon=83.40566zoom=18layers=M
 West
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=58.858448lon=81.23549zoom=18layers=M
 North
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=68.841992lon=82.550755zoom=18layers=M
  I've found no strange geometry at the edges of the rectangle, and the
 edges do not always coinside with tiles edges (see this for example:
 http://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/190225/73869.png)

 So the problem affects not only my city, but a huge 2000x200km area, and I
 have no idea how to locate the error. Any suggestions here?


 On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello fellow osmers!

 I've been looking at my local area on osm at zoomlevel 18, and it appears
 thast someone broke something, or that something broke on its
 own) Specifically, all areas that are not tagged have become filled with
 water:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.843997lon=83.061967zoom=18layers=M.
 At lower zoomlevels it is all good, ground is where it should be.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.84377lon=83.06238zoom=17layers=M.
 Water stretches pretty far from where it should be, at least some 10 km
 from Ob reservoir is still filled with water (
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.827715lon=83.196056zoom=18layers=M
 ).

 I believe it broke recently, because there were some correct
 (ground-filled) tiles at zoomlevel 18, and they were generated back in Jan
 or Feb, now  when I'm recreating them, they get filled with water.

 Can anyone help me with the direction to dig for a problem? Is it some
 tagging mistake, or broken polygon? How do I locate it?

 Best wishes,
   Pavel.



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Re: [OSM-talk] strange gaps filled by water at zoomlevel 18

2013-03-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer




Am 07/mar/2013 um 08:17 schrieb Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.com:

 I believe it broke recently, because there were some correct (ground-filled) 
 tiles at zoomlevel 18, and they were generated back in Jan or Feb, now  when 
 I'm recreating them, they get filled with water.
 
 Can anyone help me with the direction to dig for a problem? Is it some 
 tagging mistake, or broken polygon? How do I locate it?


sounds like a broken coastline. You can find it with Jochen's coastline tool, 
but it is not completely improbable that someone already fixed this. In order 
to have the rendering fixed you should make sure that the coastline shape file 
on the rendering server gets fixed / changed.

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Re: [OSM-talk] strange gaps filled by water at zoomlevel 18

2013-03-07 Thread Pavel Melnikov
Hello Martin!
Sorry to be that newbie, but what coastline tool are you referring to? If
it's osm inspector, then I cannot see anything suspicious going on [1] - no
red icons or other errors. Also, Novosibirsk is in the middle of Asia,
pretty far from any world coastline shapefile data.


[1]
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=coastlinelon=83.05855lat=54.84270zoom=14opacity=0.80overlays=coastline,coastline_error_lines,line_not_a_ring,line_overlap,line_invalid,line_direction,questionable,coastline_error_points,unconnected,intersections,not_a_ring,double_node,tagged_node

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Best wishes,
  Pavel

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:





 Am 07/mar/2013 um 08:17 schrieb Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.com:

 I believe it broke recently, because there were some correct
 (ground-filled) tiles at zoomlevel 18, and they were generated back in Jan
 or Feb, now  when I'm recreating them, they get filled with water.

 Can anyone help me with the direction to dig for a problem? Is it some
 tagging mistake, or broken polygon? How do I locate it?



 sounds like a broken coastline. You can find it with Jochen's coastline
 tool, but it is not completely improbable that someone already fixed this.
 In order to have the rendering fixed you should make sure that the
 coastline shape file on the rendering server gets fixed / changed.

 cheers,
 Martin

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