Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import
Hi Sam wrote: Correction: for step 8, the correct word is MERGE (not purge). snip /snip -unfortunatly, the only program that can do this is ArchGIS (i think) -is there any opensource equivelant that can do this? uDig has a light weight conflation tool: http://udig.refractions.net/gallery/linecleaner/ The Jump Project has the Java Conflation Suite (JCS): http://www.jump-project.org/assets/JUMP_Conflation_Whitepaper.pdf Cheers Craig ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import
Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com writes: On Jan 25, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: So I think this is really 3-way merge process, and there needs to be something that looks at each item in the new dump, finds any previous import, and checks if it has been modified. Bulk imports should always be done under a user dedicated for that one purpose. Bulk re-imports should only replace data if it still belongs That's a good notion, but it doesn't seem to be true for the MassGIS data. to the dedicated user. If somebody has edited it, then it belongs to them now, and won't be touched. Then, we should rely on maplint to I should set up JOSM, but potlatch doesn't seem to show the last writer. Perhaps it should. look at the tags, and mark data which has duplicate import tags (presuming that the user who edited it didn't delete the import tags). Otherwise, the problem devolves to duplicate data entry, which is a problem we need to solve regardless (e.g. Poughkeepsie, NY got mapped, and then overlaid by the TIGER import). Sure, but I think subsequent imports of upstream sources is a simpler problem. pgpfarhlrkpRp.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import
On 26 Jan 2009, at 14:07, Greg Troxel wrote: Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com writes: to the dedicated user. If somebody has edited it, then it belongs to them now, and won't be touched. Then, we should rely on maplint to I should set up JOSM, but potlatch doesn't seem to show the last writer. Perhaps it should. After selecting the way/node hit the H key on your keyboard, and it will pop up a history window, including date and user. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import
For government/bulk imports -where we know that updates are available; how is it dealt with? I was just thinking about this; there is a lot of MassGIS data now, and some of it is wrong (wrong location, streets that don't actually exist), although 99.8% of it seems very good. I've edited classification of highway, and added names. So I think this is really 3-way merge process, and there needs to be something that looks at each item in the new dump, finds any previous import, and checks if it has been modified. If not, apply the new change to the object, and if so, it's harder. That doesn't sound like what you are proposing, but I didn't quite follow. pgptmEnxok1HU.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import
On Jan 25, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: So I think this is really 3-way merge process, and there needs to be something that looks at each item in the new dump, finds any previous import, and checks if it has been modified. Bulk imports should always be done under a user dedicated for that one purpose. Bulk re-imports should only replace data if it still belongs to the dedicated user. If somebody has edited it, then it belongs to them now, and won't be touched. Then, we should rely on maplint to look at the tags, and mark data which has duplicate import tags (presuming that the user who edited it didn't delete the import tags). Otherwise, the problem devolves to duplicate data entry, which is a problem we need to solve regardless (e.g. Poughkeepsie, NY got mapped, and then overlaid by the TIGER import). -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import
2009/1/24 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com: In light of France getting the OK for post codes; Canada might also, so there needs to be a way to accomidate it. We should be able to update the geobase import talk page post the unanswered questions. I thought it was Iceland with the postcodes, but France with the official land registry maps, or something similar... -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import
I dunno about Iceland, but you're right about France, it is the official land registry map that we got access to. Yann Le 24 janv. 09 à 23:30, Thomas Wood a écrit : 2009/1/24 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com: In light of France getting the OK for post codes; Canada might also, so there needs to be a way to accomidate it. We should be able to update the geobase import talk page post the unanswered questions. I thought it was Iceland with the postcodes, but France with the official land registry maps, or something similar... -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import
Thanks, ya your right :) The show went good (IMO) as the question is now more apparent. For government/bulk imports -where we know that updates are available; how is it dealt with? The solution is this IMO: 1- take the latest OSM Data, as a file; the exact size area of the shape file to be imported. 2 - extract only the possable tags (if any) that are showing the same info as you want to have the new data shown as. 3 -convert the OSM to shape file 4 - make a backup of OSM file 5 -remove those same selected osm data OUT OF the osm database. 6 - using whatever postGIS program, look at both shape files, and see just how the 2 match up. 7 add osm tags the the whole thing. 8 use one of the bug finder tools to find duplicate data, and PERGE all the info together. 9 the result is a file that contains; new imported data with osm tags, untouched osm data (that no match was available), and perged data (osm imported) 10 convert the file to OSM and upload to OSM. Please poke fun at the steps, :) cheers, Sam On 1/24/09, Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/24 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com: In light of France getting the OK for post codes; Canada might also, so there needs to be a way to accomidate it. We should be able to update the geobase import talk page post the unanswered questions. I thought it was Iceland with the postcodes, but France with the official land registry maps, or something similar... -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
