Re: [OSM-talk] Bridge tagging

2008-03-09 Thread Gervase Markham
Gervase Markham wrote:
 I'm considering putting together the following proposal. As it's 
 somewhat intrusive, I thought I'd post here first to see if there was 
 significant opposition. 

Clearly not :-) I'll write up a proposal.

Gerv



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Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Chris Hill schrieb:
 The Map_Features page has really suffered.  Having a single page with 
 a list of all the tags was easy to search, now there are various 
 places to search. Can we put it back to a single page plse.
FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA!

Regards, ULFL

P.S: If the templates are the problem, remove them. It's a lot more 
important to have a usable map features page than to have an easy way 
for translations ...

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Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-09 Thread Pieren Pieren
 FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA!

+1
I restored the single page.

 P.S: If the templates are the problem, remove them. It's a lot more
 important to have a usable map features page than to have an easy way
 for translations ...

 Agreed, but again, the problem is not the templates but PHP on the server
has a limited memory and this page takes about 900Kb size of text and
pictures (with or without templates). (the error is a not possible to
allocate enough memory in parser.php)
So, either the memory allocated for PHP is increased or the page is split or
its content is reduced.

regards, Pieren
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Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-09 Thread Thomas Wood
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Pieren Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA!
 
 +1
 I restored the single page.
  P.S: If the templates are the problem, remove them. It's a lot more
  important to have a usable map features page than to have an easy way
  for translations ...
 Agreed, but again, the problem is not the templates but PHP on the server
 has a limited memory and this page takes about 900Kb size of text and
 pictures (with or without templates). (the error is a not possible to
 allocate enough memory in parser.php)
  So, either the memory allocated for PHP is increased or the page is split
 or its content is reduced.

 regards, Pieren


In this case, pictures will have no effect (other than the extra
wiki/html markup)

This page on enwiki goes into great depth about the template parsing
methods and limits, so may be helpful to finding a solution to our map
features problem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Template_limitsoldid=174802700

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Re: [OSM-talk] generating maps from shapefiles?

2008-03-09 Thread Karl Newman
www.cgpsmapper.com The program has support for shapefiles, but I'm not sure
if the free version does. Otherwise, you could use GPSMapEdit (
www.geopainting.com) and import your shapefiles, then save it as MP format
and then use cGPSMapper to compile it to an IMG format. (There are some
links set up in GPSMapEdit to send it to cGPSMapper directly, to eliminate a
step).

Karl

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:37 PM, k b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I will give the scripts a try.

 Since it seams like converting shape files into osm is
 not a as easy as first thought ,is there some way to
 convert shape files directly into garmin img files?


 Karl


 --- Matthew Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Since OSM has a quite different data structure than
  shapefiles
  (topological vs. simple features) it can be
  difficult. Plus there is
  no generic solution for converting the attributes
  into OSM tags.
  You'll likely have to script a custom solution. A
  good place to start
  would be
  http://boston.freemap.in/osm/files/mgis_to_osm.py or
 
 http://perrygeo.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/gis-bin/nhd_to_osm.py
 
  - matt
 
  On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 6:19 AM, k b
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   Hi.
  
Is it possible to convert the shape files into
  oms
files or directly into garmin img files?
  
If it is possible, where can i read more?
  
  
Tanks!
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Re: [OSM-talk] fixing multipolygons

2008-03-09 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 21:16 +0100, Robert Vollmert wrote:
 393 relations
 235 with non-closed ways
   53 with less than two members
   32 containing ways with less than two nodes
   56 modified relations
 
Examples of non-closed ways are relation 435 and 436. Both these have 2
ways which together could form a closed ring if the direction of one of
the ways was reversed. I think these were marked as multipolygons by the
0.4-0.5 conversion script since it could not form a closed ring with
the directions as they were. I think we need to fix up these into proper
closed ways and remove the multipolygon relation. 

Given your stats above this might effect about half the existing
multipolygon relations.

It just so happens that the existing multipolygon handling code in
osm2pgsql will convert these ways into a closed area for the Mapnik
rendering. I can not remember whether this was by accident or design but
it would be nice not to lose these areas.


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Re: [OSM-talk] fixing multipolygons

2008-03-09 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Jon Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It just so happens that the existing multipolygon handling code in
  osm2pgsql will convert these ways into a closed area for the Mapnik
  rendering. I can not remember whether this was by accident or design but
  it would be nice not to lose these areas.

FWIW, it was pointed out to me today that osm2pgsql actually creates
invalid geometries, presumably via this relation parsing (I havn't had
a chance to track it down). If you do:

# select count(*) from planet_osm_polygon where not  isvalid(way);

You get 138 for just the NL portion of the planet dump. The errors are
a combination of:

NOTICE:  Self-intersection
NOTICE:  Hole lies outside shell
NOTICE:  Ring Self-intersection

The first being the most common. It's probably stupid errors but maybe
it's stuff that will be fixed at the same time.

Have a nice day,
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Re: [OSM-talk] fixing multipolygons

2008-03-09 Thread Jon Burgess

On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 18:42 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Jon Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It just so happens that the existing multipolygon handling code in
   osm2pgsql will convert these ways into a closed area for the Mapnik
   rendering. I can not remember whether this was by accident or design but
   it would be nice not to lose these areas.
 
 FWIW, it was pointed out to me today that osm2pgsql actually creates
 invalid geometries, presumably via this relation parsing (I havn't had
 a chance to track it down). If you do:
 
 # select count(*) from planet_osm_polygon where not  isvalid(way);
 
 You get 138 for just the NL portion of the planet dump. The errors are
 a combination of:
 
 NOTICE:  Self-intersection
 NOTICE:  Hole lies outside shell
 NOTICE:  Ring Self-intersection
 
 The first being the most common. It's probably stupid errors but maybe
 it's stuff that will be fixed at the same time.

I think many of these are due to bad OSM data. Historically osm2pgsql
has just ignored or silently fixed up minor data errors. I'm wondering
whether instead it should emit a list of the problems. 

These could be turned into an HTML file with generated API and map links
to view or download the data. I know there are some other tools which
perform similar functions but I guess they are not being run on the
whole planet dump every week.

Jon



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[OSM-talk] RFC: golf course

2008-03-09 Thread Daniel Schmidt
Hi everyone,

there is a new RFC regarding golf courses.
I tried to include a lot of Wikipedia links to make it comprehensible  
even for non-golfers. Please take a look at it and share your opinion.


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Golf_course


Greets,
Daniel

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[OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-09 Thread SteveC
Has anyone else noticed the number of stares going up? I had about 5  
in my hour or so of mapping. I waved at 3 of them and got one wave back.

have fun,

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Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-09 Thread Jon Stockill
SteveC wrote:
 Has anyone else noticed the number of stares going up? I had about 5  
 in my hour or so of mapping. I waved at 3 of them and got one wave back.

Yes, but that's mainly due to the fact that I've spent the last couple 
of weekends mapping an area where wandering around with something that 
looks like a radio clipped to your shoulder while writing notes and 
sketching a map makes the locals nervous (in a he looks official but I 
can't quite work out what he's up to kind of way).

Jon

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Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-09 Thread Stephan Schildberg
With its right wing?

Stephan.
 Has anyone else noticed the number of stares going up? I had about 5  
 in my hour or so of mapping. I waved at 3 of them and got one wave back.
   

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Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-09 Thread graham
SteveC wrote:
 Has anyone else noticed the number of stares going up? I had about 5  
 in my hour or so of mapping. I waved at 3 of them and got one wave back.


No, but I'm definitely noticing an increase in the number of agressive 
dogs :-(

Graham

 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-09 Thread 80n
I think this might be the cause:
http://www.met.police.uk/campaigns/counter_terrorism/ct_camera_2008.pdf

More details:
http://www.met.police.uk/campaigns/campaign_ct_2008.htm

80n

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:52 PM, graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 SteveC wrote:
  Has anyone else noticed the number of stares going up? I had about 5
  in my hour or so of mapping. I waved at 3 of them and got one wave back.


 No, but I'm definitely noticing an increase in the number of agressive
 dogs :-(

 Graham

 
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Re: [OSM-talk] generating maps from shapefiles?

2008-03-09 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
k b k_b at yahoo.se writes:

 
 I will give the scripts a try.
 
 Since it seams like converting shape files into osm is
 not a as easy as first thought ,is there some way to
 convert shape files directly into garmin img files?

GPS Trackmaker software reads in shapefiles and lists 13 output
formats. Img is not on the list, I don't know if Garmin PCX5 or
some other supported format could be useful.

-Jukka Rahkonen-


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Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-09 Thread SteveC

On 9 Mar 2008, at 20:33, 80n wrote:

 I think this might be the cause:
 http://www.met.police.uk/campaigns/counter_terrorism/ 
 ct_camera_2008.pdf

Fight back with

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/05/remixing-the-london.html



 More details:
 http://www.met.police.uk/campaigns/campaign_ct_2008.htm

 80n

 On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 7:52 PM, graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SteveC wrote:
  Has anyone else noticed the number of stares going up? I had about 5
  in my hour or so of mapping. I waved at 3 of them and got one wave  
 back.


 No, but I'm definitely noticing an increase in the number of agressive
 dogs :-(

 Graham

 
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: map question]

2008-03-09 Thread Gregory
I would think you'd go with creating a map removing from the stylesheets
things you didn't want. Then if you want specific ones add them in manually.

I know at layer 12 informationfreeway can be captionless (press the plus on
the right of the map for the option)
http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=51.51840711462878lon=-0.10752254127906434zoom=12layers=F00BF

On 09/03/2008, Robert (Jamie) Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Someone asked this question on another list. I'm wondering what people
 here would suggest? - Perhaps osmarender to make a map, then edit it in
 Inkscape to remove things not needed.

 Does anyone know of software that will allow you to pick and choose the
 towns and other features that appear in a printed outline map? Suppose,
 for example, that I was planning a Spurr Pilgrimage Tour: how could I
 print an outline map of England that would show only Birmingham,
 Stansted, Evesham and Westminster Abbey (without any other towns or
 features appearing)?

 (signed) ?Nick

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: map question]

2008-03-09 Thread Robin Paulson
On 10/03/2008, Robert (Jamie) Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does anyone know of software that will allow you to pick and choose the
  towns and other features that appear in a printed outline map? Suppose,
  for example, that I was planning a Spurr Pilgrimage Tour: how could I
  print an outline map of England that would show only Birmingham,
  Stansted, Evesham and Westminster Abbey (without any other towns or
  features appearing)?

i don't know the status of administrative boundaries in uk, but would
it be possible to define a polygonal bounding box, that used whatever
parish/city/etc boundaries as it's limits?

it should be fairly to extract the corresponding polygon from the db
if you know it's name, and then go from there. i imagine several
neighbouring ones could be joined together to form a super-polgon
bounding box

we can use 4 sided bboxes, right?

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-in] Stares

2008-03-09 Thread निशांत / Nishant
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  P.P.S. I have had someone claim to me that an Indian citizen is legally
  required to register any GPS devices. Anyone from India who can cast
  any light on that?

Lol, that was me. Someone claimed that to me and I, in turn, passed it
on to you, hoping that you may find out a definite answer. I am unable
to digest this and still looking for someone to confirm this.

regards,
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Re: [talk-au] secondary_link

2008-03-09 Thread Liz
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Stuart Robinson wrote:
 Links are by default oneway, I think that's what the other person is
 getting at.

 stuart.

so the use of secondary_link was possibly a shorthand to avoid oneway=true  ??


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Re: [talk-au] Highway Classification Issues

2008-03-09 Thread Ian Sergeant
Darrin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I read one part of the OSM wiki I see it talking about classifying
 highways purely by their physical characteristics
..
 The majority of pages talk about classifying roads by their state
 funding designation and or highway reference which is fine because
 these are pretty easy to explicitly define.

There is little doubt that the original highway definitions corresponded to
the classification system in the UK.  The
primary/secondary/tertiary/unclassified correspond pretty closely to the
road classifications there.

The arguments over physical or administrative classifications lie around
the edges of the discussion in the UK.  Some people thinking an 'A' road in
certain sections, may be secondary, or some such.

Anyway, rest assured this is a live debate.  Check out
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Highway_administrative/physical_descriptions

 discussion of reference definition, vs physical definition

In some urban areas in Australia, the reference definition can work quite
well.  In Sydney, Motorways correspond to motorways, trunk roads correspond
to metroads, and residential/unclassified to surburban correspond to
streets going nowhere.  This only leaves primary/secondary etc to be
subjective to a certain extent.

However, in rural areas of NSW, the system doesn't work so well.  If you
use the reference method, you will find that there are a handful of state
highways, a couple of auslink roads, and that leaves 99% of all the roads
without a reference classification.  This would dramatically reduce the
usefulness of the resulting map to use a reference classification.  Most
roads would look the same.  Many main routes between towns have no
reference classification at all.

It would be nice if Australia had a reference system that would work
comprehensively.  It doesn't, and that leaves us always requiring a certain
element of subjectivity.

I would say - if there is a workable reference system for a particular
area, then it is best to use the reference system, and make a
correspondence to the OSM types.  Document the area and the reference
system on the wiki, and coordinate a discussion to ensure there is a
consensus for that area.

Where there isn't a workable reference system - where that would leave far
to many roads unclassified, or through roads not indicated as through
roads, then some subjectivity has to be used.  Not just the physical
propoerties of the road, but also whether it is the main linking road
between centres, etc.  The current wiki guidelines for Australian Road
Tagging are the result of previous discussions to try and pin this down,
and try and standardise as much as possible where no reference system will
work.

If you can come up with a practical, yet unambiguous and objective, system
for all of Australia, that would be great.  Short of laying seige to the
roads departments and councils, I don't think that is going to happen.  I'm
sure if you have ideas for improvement, or a workable reference system for
Adelaide, then you just need to convince people of the benefits, and update
the doco.

Ian.


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Re: [talk-au] Adelaide Highway Classification (was: Highway Classification Issues)

2008-03-09 Thread Darrin Smith
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:52:00 +1100
Ian Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyway, rest assured this is a live debate.  Check out
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Highway_administrative/physical_descriptions

That's an interesting page, good to see people are addressing that
issue on a global level. Should that proposal go through it
automatically eliminates one of the options as 'valid' ... Shall have
to keep an eye on it.

  discussion of reference definition, vs physical definition

 Ian's comments

OK, in a sense it's good to see people as unsure as I am :)

 However, in rural areas of NSW, the system doesn't work so well.  If
 you use the reference method, you will find that there are a handful
 of state highways, a couple of auslink roads, and that leaves 99% of
 all the roads without a reference classification.  This would
 dramatically reduce the usefulness of the resulting map to use a
 reference classification.  Most roads would look the same.  Many main
 routes between towns have no reference classification at all.

Perhaps NSW will one day get it's funding to finish the MABC roll-out,
that might help a lot, but yes until then I don't envy your position.
South Australia is a little better off with a nicely defined set of A 
B roads to guide things along.

 It would be nice if Australia had a reference system that would work
 comprehensively.  It doesn't, and that leaves us always requiring a
 certain element of subjectivity.

3 States have (TAS, VIC, SA), 2 are part way there (NSW  QLD), it's a
start :)

 I would say - if there is a workable reference system for a particular
 area, then it is best to use the reference system, and make a
 correspondence to the OSM types.  Document the area and the reference
 system on the wiki, and coordinate a discussion to ensure there is a
 consensus for that area.

Right this is where I kind of got to with Adelaide, I guess my first
email was a call out to start such a discussion so I'll change the
subject to reflect that...

 If you can come up with a practical, yet unambiguous and objective,
 system for all of Australia, that would be great.  Short of laying
 seige to the roads departments and councils, I don't think that is
 going to happen. 

Yeah, that's a good dream that one :) 

 I'm sure if you have ideas for improvement, or a
 workable reference system for Adelaide, then you just need to
 convince people of the benefits, and update the doco.

OK, to take this a step further I'll start the ball rolling in Adelaide:
(As we get a consensus I'll write a Adelaide/South Australia Wiki page
to reflect the decisions, I'm happy to do that)

1) Trunk Roads in City

I propose that all A routes in Adelaide and only A Routes are
labelled trunk. 

I can understand some hesitation from people with respect to the A22,
parts of the A16 because they are low quality roads, but if we're going
to tag to a reference pattern they need to fit.

2) Definition of rural vs city area

I propose that the area bounded by lines joining Two Wells, Gawler,
Birdwood, Mount Barker, Willunga, Aldinga and the Coast line are
defined as City area, and that areas outside these are considered
Rural (We can define other city areas around Mount
Gambier/Whyalla/Whatever if people have definitions?). I think the
current Rural definitions as provided on the Wiki are pretty close to
spot on for these areas.

3) Primary Roads in City:

There are about 5 B Roads inside the definition of the city area,
otherwise there's a whole bunch of roads in the city itself which
server the cross-city tasks the road definition suggests these should
be. However I think there are currently way too many roads in Adelaide
marked as primary which AREN'T serving significant cross-suburb
purposes (Prospect Road is one that immediately comes to mind). I would
like to suggest we the mappers of Adelaide draw up a list of Primary
roads which are the only ones that should be marked primary.

4) Further levels: For later, a few steps at a time :)

I'm particularly would like input from those guys mapping lots
of Adelaide with me (jackb, justcameron, adhoc?) since you guys and I
will tread on each others toes if we're not seeing eye-to-eye.

-- 

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Re: [Talk-de] Potlatch :-) und :-(

2008-03-09 Thread Sven Geggus
Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Insofern verstehe ich nicht, wo da ein Problem sein soll, zumal Fred Bugs 
 üblicherweise äußerst zügig ausbaut.

Jupp! Besser ist es IMO immer die neueeste Version zu haben als alle
6 Monate mal.

Ich hab schon darüber nachgedacht mir ein script zu bauen, dass beim
start automatisch die jeweils neueste Version runterlädt.

Gruss

Sven

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Re: [Talk-de] Ortsname wird erst bei Mappnik-Zoomstufe 14 angezeigt

2008-03-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Daniel Schmidt schrieb:
 Mapnik besitzt beim Rendern eine Art Kollisionserkennung, d.h. es  
 wird verhindert, dass sich zwei oder mehrere Labels überlagern. In  
 diesem Fall wird dann eben nur ein Element angezeigt. Erst in einer  
 größeren Zoomstufe können dann die weiteren Labels gezeichnet werden,  
 wenn Platz ist.
 Osmarender pinselt einfach alles hin.

 Ich weiß nicht, nach welchen Regeln Mapnik entscheidet, welches  
 Element gezeichnet wird und welches nicht -- ich nehme mal an, das  
 hängt an der Reihenfolge der Einträge in der Datenbank.
   
Das führt dann übrigens zu solchen Stilblüten, daß Erlangen und Fürth 
angezeigt werden, Nürnberg aber nicht:

http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.56lon=11.05zoom=8layers=B0FT

Nur ist Nürnberg (~50) knapp fünfmal so groß wie Fürth (~115000)! 
Und ich möchte jetzt keine Kommentare der Art aber man weiß ja, daß 
Nürnberg ein Vorort von Fürth ist hören ;-)

Da in Zoomstufe 6 dann nur noch Fürth auftaucht, schätze ich mal, daß 
von West nach Ost gerendert wird (oder Ost nach West, je nachdem wie der 
Überdeckungsalgorithmus genau funktioniert).


Das aktuelle Rendering halte ich - in diesem für mich nicht sooo 
wichtigen Thema - hier zwar für einen groben Schnitzer, aber da werden 
die Renderer auf die Dauer noch besser werden. Als Entwickler wundert 
mich sowieso, wie gut das überhaupt automatisiert klappt.

Wie auch immer, wichtig ist erstmal, daß die Daten stimmen ...

Gruß ULFL


P.S.: Beim Osmarender fehlt in einigen Zoomstufen Fürth 
http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.62lon=11.2zoom=8layers=0BFT - 
irgendeinen Tod stirbt man also immer ;-)

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Re: [Talk-de] Potlatch :-) und :-(

2008-03-09 Thread Florian Schmitt
Hi,

Sven Geggus schrieb:

 Ich hab schon darüber nachgedacht mir ein script zu bauen, dass beim
 start automatisch die jeweils neueste Version runterlädt.

Das könnte man noch einfacher per Java Web Start [1] erreichen. Eine jnlp-Datei 
ist flott gebastelt, das jar-File muß nur signiert sein.

Gruss
florian

[1]: http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/javaws/index.html

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[Talk-de] Klebeeffekt in JOSM

2008-03-09 Thread Johannes Lempp
Hi,

seit einiger Zeit hat JOSM das an sich lobenswerte Verhalten, dass  
ein Objekt beim Verschieben erst mal an seiner alten Stelle kleben  
bleibt. Erst wenn man's mit der Maus eine bestimmte Anzahl Pixel  
weit weg gezogen hat, springt es von seinem alten Platz weg und man  
kann es nun pixelgenau platzieren.

Hier meine Frage: Kann man diese bestimmte Anzahl Pixel irgendwo  
einstellen?




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Re: [Talk-de] Klebeeffekt in JOSM

2008-03-09 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi,

 Hier meine Frage: Kann man diese bestimmte Anzahl Pixel irgendwo  
 einstellen?

.josm/preferences
edit.initial-move-threshold=5

Beste Grüße,

ce


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Re: [Talk-de] Klebeeffekt in JOSM

2008-03-09 Thread Johannes Lempp
  .josm/preferences
  edit.initial-move-threshold=5


Perfekt! Besten Dank.


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Re: [Talk-de] Fußgänger-Routing (war: Tele Atl as: Navi-Karten für Fußgänger)

2008-03-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo,

  Naja, es geht nicht um Dich und mich. Es geht um Leute, die fuer das  
  von Dir beschriebene Verfahren zu unsicher sind, die im Zweifel das  
  Strassenschild auf der anderen Seite nicht entziffern koennen und die  
  auf keinen Fall jemals irgendwo durch einen Grasstreifen oder ueber  
  eine Absperrung gehen und nur im aeussersten Notfall eine Strasse an  
  einer nicht dafuer vorgesehenen Stelle ueberqueren.
 
 Und die wollen ein Gerät herumtragen, das Ihnen erzählt, was sie tun
 sollen? Glaube ich nicht.

Nein. Aber die lassen sich vielleicht von dem Geschaeft oder der Bahn-
oder Busgesellschaft oder wer immer ihnen etwas verkaufen will vorher
eine Wegbeschreibung ausdrucken.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-de] Featured image proposals

2008-03-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo,

 Auf der Seite Featured image proposals steht ganz oben:
 Once consensus is reached here... aber ich sehe nicht,
 wo und wie dieser Konsens erreicht wird. Wo findet denn
 die Dikussion statt, welches Bild als nächstes die Ehre 
 bekommt?

In der Praxis funktioniert es so, dass Du Dir einfach einen freien
Slot nimmst und Dein Bild reintust. Hoechstens, wenn es etwas ganz
doofes oder absurdes ist, wo viele sagen: Das wollen wir nun wirklich
nicht auf der Startseite, wird es vielleicht jemand wieder entfernen.

Bye
Frederik

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