Re: [talk-au] power=edge_server

[nwastra]

Thanks for replies. I have sent an osm personal message to 设计在先 and if I get no 
reply, I will contact the supervisor.
Nev


> On 3 Nov 2022, at 9:10 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 06:04, Michael James  wrote:
>> This dataset is not any sort of computing system, they have copied the ACMA 
>> mobile network tower information and called it research.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This is of course going to be a licensing issue.
>> 
> 
> But from the Github mentioned above
> 
> " Acknowledgements The Australian Communications and Media Authority for the 
> radio base station dataset" 
> 
> Maybe they did get permission to use it?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] TomTom Roadrunner

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

They have responded now on Discord, so all good.

Thanks

Graeme


On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 14:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

> Over on Discord, I've mentioned a few "peculiarities" that I've spotted
> with regard to Roadrunner traces, but not had any response, so they've
> possibly stopped following on there?
>
> Just in case there's any TomTom rep's still on here, here's another one
> that I've just spotted:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/-27.96453/153.34601
>
> There is no on-ramp / merge at that location, so not too sure what's gone
> on there?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [talk-au] Melbourne - Suburban Rail Loop - Too early to mark as under construction?

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Thanks, Michael

Yes, they are already warning of some occasional disruption to both car &
foot traffic, so I'll up it all to under construction.

Thanks

Graeme


On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 17:22, Michael Collinson  wrote:

> Being a grand cynic or at least just jaundiced,  'proposed' can be
> translated to "I'll be lucky to see this in my life time", so any actual
> work at all is a major, major change in significance so I'd go for 'under
> construction' in at least Graeme's example. Utility works also have an
> impact on the visible landscape (visual navigation) and may affect
> formal/informal right of way, particular to foot traffic.
>
> Mike
>
> On 2022-11-01 23:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
> Similar question here on the GC with the latest stage of the Light Rail.
>
> They've now started "utility works" - relocating power poles & conduits,
> sewer & water manholes, removing some trees etc.
>
> When should the "proposed" line get updated to "under construction"? Now,
> or only when they actually start digging the roads up & laying track?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 07:43, Andrew Davidson  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 8:37 PM Dian Ågesson  wrote:
>> > Just seeking views from others here: is this a bit premature? Should
>> only a section of the loop be marked as under construction, or any parts of
>> it at all?
>>
>> Normally I would have said that construction would only apply to the
>> bits that were actually under construction. However, in this case it's
>> underground, so we won't be able to tell.
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Re: [talk-au] power=edge_server

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 06:04, Michael James  wrote:

> This dataset is not any sort of computing system, they have copied the
> ACMA mobile network tower information and called it research.
>
>
>
> This is of course going to be a licensing issue.
>

But from the Github mentioned above

" *Acknowledgements* The Australian Communications and Media Authority

for the radio base station dataset"

Maybe they did get permission to use it?

Thanks

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Re: [talk-au] power=edge_server

[forster]

You could contact PhuLai's supervisor
Dr Qiang He
Associate Professor
q...@swin.edu.au
+61 3 9214 5431


As these tags are few in number and associated with research as   
mentioned on the github page I am happy to leave as is and move on.

The tag power=edge_server seems reasonable.



On 3 Nov 2022, at 12:24 am, Nev  wrote:


Found this on github which relates to one of the changesets I suppose…
https://github.com/swinedge/eua-dataset


On 2 Nov 2022, at 10:43 pm, Nev  wrote:


Hi
Does anyone know what the tag power=edge_server refers to?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%E8%AE%BE%E8%AE%A1%E5%9C%A8%E5%85%88/history#map=14/-37.8138/144.9640

I initially thought they might be something to do with building   
power supply or electric vehicle chargers or a type of computer   
server in business premises.
Internet searches generally refer to computer servers and if that   
is what is being mapped, are these appropriate to map on osm?








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Re: [talk-au] power=edge_server

[Michael James]

This dataset is not any sort of computing system, they have copied the ACMA 
mobile network tower information and called it research.

This is of course going to be a licensing issue.

https://www.acma.gov.au/radiocomms-licence-data

Michael


From: Nev 
Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2022 12:38 AM
To: Nev 
Cc: OSM-Au 
Subject: [talk-au] power=edge_server

As these tags are few in number and associated with research as mentioned on 
the github page I am happy to leave as is and move on.
The tag power=edge_server seems reasonable.


On 3 Nov 2022, at 12:24 am, Nev mailto:nevwo...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

Found this on github which relates to one of the changesets I suppose…
https://github.com/swinedge/eua-dataset

On 2 Nov 2022, at 10:43 pm, Nev mailto:nevwo...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know what the tag power=edge_server refers to?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%E8%AE%BE%E8%AE%A1%E5%9C%A8%E5%85%88/history#map=14/-37.8138/144.9640

I initially thought they might be something to do with building power supply or 
electric vehicle chargers or a type of computer server in business premises.
Internet searches generally refer to computer servers and if that is what is 
being mapped, are these appropriate to map on osm?
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[talk-au] power=edge_server

[Nev]

As these tags are few in number and associated with research as mentioned on 
the github page I am happy to leave as is and move on. 
The tag power=edge_server seems reasonable.


> On 3 Nov 2022, at 12:24 am, Nev  wrote:
> 
> 
> Found this on github which relates to one of the changesets I suppose…
> https://github.com/swinedge/eua-dataset
> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2022, at 10:43 pm, Nev  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi
>> Does anyone know what the tag power=edge_server refers to?
>> 
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%E8%AE%BE%E8%AE%A1%E5%9C%A8%E5%85%88/history#map=14/-37.8138/144.9640
>> 
>> I initially thought they might be something to do with building power supply 
>> or electric vehicle chargers or a type of computer server in business 
>> premises.
>> Internet searches generally refer to computer servers and if that is what is 
>> being mapped, are these appropriate to map on osm?
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[talk-au] power=edge_server

[Nev]

Found this on github which relates to one of the changesets I suppose…
https://github.com/swinedge/eua-dataset

> On 2 Nov 2022, at 10:43 pm, Nev  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> Does anyone know what the tag power=edge_server refers to?
> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%E8%AE%BE%E8%AE%A1%E5%9C%A8%E5%85%88/history#map=14/-37.8138/144.9640
> 
> I initially thought they might be something to do with building power supply 
> or electric vehicle chargers or a type of computer server in business 
> premises.
> Internet searches generally refer to computer servers and if that is what is 
> being mapped, are these appropriate to map on osm?
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[talk-au] power=edge_server

[Nev]

Hi
Does anyone know what the tag power=edge_server refers to?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%E8%AE%BE%E8%AE%A1%E5%9C%A8%E5%85%88/history#map=14/-37.8138/144.9640

I initially thought they might be something to do with building power supply or 
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Re: [talk-au] Melbourne - Suburban Rail Loop - Too early to mark as under construction?

[Michael Collinson]

Being a grand cynic or at least just jaundiced,  'proposed' can be 
translated to "I'll be lucky to see this in my life time", so any actual 
work at all is a major, major change in significance so I'd go for 
'under construction' in at least Graeme's example. Utility works also 
have an impact on the visible landscape (visual navigation) and may 
affect formal/informal right of way, particular to foot traffic.


Mike

On 2022-11-01 23:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

Similar question here on the GC with the latest stage of the Light Rail.

They've now started "utility works" - relocating power poles & 
conduits, sewer & water manholes, removing some trees etc.


When should the "proposed" line get updated to "under construction"? 
Now, or only when they actually start digging the roads up & laying track?


Thanks

Graeme


On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 07:43, Andrew Davidson  wrote:

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 8:37 PM Dian Ågesson  wrote:
> Just seeking views from others here: is this a bit premature?
Should only a section of the loop be marked as under construction,
or any parts of it at all?

Normally I would have said that construction would only apply to the
bits that were actually under construction. However, in this case it's
underground, so we won't be able to tell.

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