Re: [talk-au] Making the case for ODbL licensing of state government open data
Nick Thank you for your interest in the topic and your support. I'm the chair of the OSMF licence/legal working group and an Aussie ex-pat (very very ex) that lurks here are bit, and am fairly opinionated on the topic :-). As Phil has pointed out if you want to have a larger discussion the legal-talk mailing list is likely the best place, but you should know in advance that licence topics tend to lead to fairly heated discussions. I don't want to pre-empt any other larger discussion, but from my pov a licence of OGD needs to be somewhat different than a project like wikipedia or OpenStreetMap, the two big global community projects that consume and -produce- open data. I personally consider CC BY, CC BY-SA and the ODbL as not appropriate for government data, and I would suggest publishing on OGL terms without requiring downstream attribution for anything that you really want to be re-used. That said, publishing the data on ODbL terms or better ODC-By would without doubt make our life easier than the current widely used CC licences, which as you can see from my blog post that was pointed to, have a number of undesirable properties (for example: why would the Qld government want to stop Netflix from using something created from your data in a production?). Simon Am 28.04.2017 um 00:53 schrieb Nicholas G Lawrence: > > Hello Australia OSM, > > > > I am a spatial science officer in Qld Transport and Main Roads, > involved in the provision of Open Data for public consumption. > > > > Our data is generally released under a CC-BY license, but I have an > opportunity to make a case for the ODbL to be a license option. > Currently data custodians choose a license from a list of pre-approved > licenses, and I am hoping to add ODbL to that list. > > > > But first I have to put forward a clear case why this should be > considered. Is there a clear argument written down somewhere I can > refer to? > > > > Also, I am not clear on the incompatibilities between ODbL and > specific types of CC licenses. For example, is CC-BY compatible whilst > CC-BY-SA not compatible? How about CC-0? > > > > Thanks, > Nick Lawrence > > > > > > > *** > WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally > privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by > copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was > intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one > is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print > or copy this email without appropriate authority. > > If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, > please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of > this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer > system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and > any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not > waived or destroyed by that mistake. > > It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain > and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by > third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with > your computer system). > > Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the > opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, > or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. > *** > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Making the case for ODbL licensing of state government open data
One more link that has some info in relation to CC BY 4.0 https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ From: Nicholas G Lawrence [mailto:nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 8:53 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-au] Making the case for ODbL licensing of state government open data Hello Australia OSM, I am a spatial science officer in Qld Transport and Main Roads, involved in the provision of Open Data for public consumption. Our data is generally released under a CC-BY license, but I have an opportunity to make a case for the ODbL to be a license option. Currently data custodians choose a license from a list of pre-approved licenses, and I am hoping to add ODbL to that list. But first I have to put forward a clear case why this should be considered. Is there a clear argument written down somewhere I can refer to? Also, I am not clear on the incompatibilities between ODbL and specific types of CC licenses. For example, is CC-BY compatible whilst CC-BY-SA not compatible? How about CC-0? Thanks, Nick Lawrence _ *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Making the case for ODbL licensing of state government open data
Hello Australia OSM, I am a spatial science officer in Qld Transport and Main Roads, involved in the provision of Open Data for public consumption. Our data is generally released under a CC-BY license, but I have an opportunity to make a case for the ODbL to be a license option. Currently data custodians choose a license from a list of pre-approved licenses, and I am hoping to add ODbL to that list. But first I have to put forward a clear case why this should be considered. Is there a clear argument written down somewhere I can refer to? Also, I am not clear on the incompatibilities between ODbL and specific types of CC licenses. For example, is CC-BY compatible whilst CC-BY-SA not compatible? How about CC-0? Thanks, Nick Lawrence *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
