Re: [talk-au] New Mapper Sydney Campbelltown Randwick Help: Hi and Help?
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Franc Carter wrote: There was a discussion on talk-au some months ago about the use of mini_rounabout in Australia. From memory the informal otcome of this was that mini_roundabout coud be used for a roundabout that would fit inside the width of a residential road. I don't know if this was ever documented however. It wasn't documented on the wiki. It is in the mailing list archives. Obviously the people in the UK are much better behaved drivers, going in circles round little painted circles on the road. Drivers here need a big thing that goes bump or rips the undercarriage off their expensive Italian coupe before they drive around it. My current version of mapping Those little concrete circles mini_roundabout direction=clockwise the medium size I draw out if one or more of the roads is dual carriageway, because it is easier to draw it. Put in four or eight points evenly, ask josm to make a circle of them and then add other required points, check the direction of the segments. big roundabouts (South Hay, Goolgowi) which are big enough for a road train to drive round comfortably need lots of points, and on and off ramps ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] New Mapper Sydney Campbelltown Randwick Help: Hi and Help?
just a suggestion, but if its a really tiny roundabout like those concrete ones everywhere, just make the node mini_roundabout. It's a lot easier. stuart. On Feb 13, 2008 2:13 PM, Paul Zagoridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone I live in Randwick NSW and work in Campbelltown, so I'd like to fix up a few things near work. What is the page of the wiki (if any) that runs me through using JOSM to add roads, roundabouts and how to link things correctly to existing ways? I know to download from OSM and then upload my changes, which I've so far only done to fix missing info e.g. I've named Elizabeth Lane in Randwick. So I think I know how to update/fix data for existing ways. Now I want to add the streets and service roads near work and connect them Badgdally Road Campbelltown. I want to add the roundabouts on Blaxland Road and others Lastly I want to mark up the divided roads in the area e.g. Blaxland Road place traffic lights Any easy way to learn this? -- Paul Zagoridis mobile: 0414 707 343 int'l +61-414-707-343 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blog: http://www.wealthesteem.org blog: http://www.zagz.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=815205625 Xing: http://www.xing.com/go/invite/3306344.2a5ab0 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulzag Ecademy Profile: http://www.ecademy.com/user/paulzagoridis?xref=164318 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-au -- Version: 3.1 GCS dpu s: a18 C++ UL++ P+ L(+++) E--- W+++ N-- o+ K? w+++(---) O M-- V? PS+ PE+++ Y? PGP-- t+ 5? X? R-- tv-- b++(+) DI D+ G e* h! r !y+ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] New Mapper Sydney Campbelltown Randwick Help: Hi and Help?
Thanks Stuart Yes I've seen the mini_roundabout and will be looking at it for the small slightly raised suburban models around the eastern suburbs of Sydney. In this case however there are two honking huge roundabouts where the road widens and service ways come in from all angles. They aren't neatly circular either. Regards Paul Stuart Robinson wrote, On 13/2/08 11:00 PM: just a suggestion, but if its a really tiny roundabout like those concrete ones everywhere, just make the node mini_roundabout. It's a lot easier. stuart. On Feb 13, 2008 2:13 PM, Paul Zagoridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone I live in Randwick NSW and work in Campbelltown, so I'd like to fix up a few things near work. What is the page of the wiki (if any) that runs me through using JOSM to add roads, roundabouts and how to link things correctly to existing ways? I know to download from OSM and then upload my changes, which I've so far only done to fix missing info e.g. I've named Elizabeth Lane in Randwick. So I think I know how to update/fix data for existing ways. Now I want to add the streets and service roads near work and connect them Badgdally Road Campbelltown. I want to add the roundabouts on Blaxland Road and others Lastly I want to mark up the divided roads in the area e.g. Blaxland Road place traffic lights Any easy way to learn this? -- Paul Zagoridis mobile: 0414 707 343 int'l +61-414-707-343 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] blog: http://www.wealthesteem.org blog: http://www.zagz.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=815205625 Xing: http://www.xing.com/go/invite/3306344.2a5ab0 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulzag Ecademy Profile: http://www.ecademy.com/user/paulzagoridis?xref=164318 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-au -- Version: 3.1 GCS dpu s: a18 C++ UL++ P+ L(+++) E--- W+++ N-- o+ K? w+++(---) O M-- V? PS+ PE+++ Y? PGP-- t+ 5? X? R-- tv-- b++(+) DI D+ G e* h! r !y+ -- Paul Zagoridis mobile: 0414 707 343 int'l +61-414-707-343 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blog: http://www.wealthesteem.org blog: http://www.zagz.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=815205625 Xing: http://www.xing.com/go/invite/3306344.2a5ab0 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulzag Ecademy Profile: http://www.ecademy.com/user/paulzagoridis?xref=164318 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] New Mapper Sydney Campbelltown Randwick Help: Hi and Help?
I would suggest an additional constraint, that it be possible for a truck or bus to drive over the roundabout. I know one small roundabout near a primary school, where it is common for a bus to put two wheels over the roundabout. So mini_roundabout could be used for a small roundabout that is paved in the middle, but should not be used for one that has a garden or keep left sign posts in the middle. This would produce routing information for larger vehicles that is consistent with the UK. So where should this be documented? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Australian_Roads_Tagging Anybody got a link to the original discussion? (I only recently joined the list) There was a discussion on talk-au some months ago about the use of mini_rounabout in Australia. From memory the informal otcome of this was that mini_roundabout coud be used for a roundabout that would fit inside the width of a residential road. I don't know if this was ever documented however. On Feb 14, 2008 7:24 AM, Russell Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of the tags show a UK heritage. My memory of mini roundabouts in the UK is one that they are painted on the road, rather than raised. My copy of The Highway Code is packed away, so I can't check at the moment. In any case, a mini roundabout can be driven over by a truck (lorry). On 13 Feb 2008 at 23:00, Stuart Robinson wrote: just a suggestion, but if its a really tiny roundabout like those concrete ones everywhere, just make the node mini_roundabout. It's a lot easier. stuart. On Feb 13, 2008 2:13 PM, Paul Zagoridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone I live in Randwick NSW and work in Campbelltown, so I'd like to fix up a few things near work. What is the page of the wiki (if any) that runs me through using JOSM to add roads, roundabouts and how to link things correctly to existing ways? I know to download from OSM and then upload my changes, which I've so far only done to fix missing info e.g. I've named Elizabeth Lane in Randwick. So I think I know how to update/fix data for existing ways. Now I want to add the streets and service roads near work and connect them Badgdally Road Campbelltown. I want to add the roundabouts on Blaxland Road and others Lastly I want to mark up the divided roads in the area e.g. Blaxland Road place traffic lights Any easy way to learn this? -- Paul Zagoridis mobile: 0414 707 343 int'l +61-414-707-343 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blog: http://www.wealthesteem.org blog: http://www.zagz.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=815205625 Xing: http://www.xing.com/go/invite/3306344.2a5ab0 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulzag Ecademy Profile: http://www.ecademy.com/user/paulzagoridis?xref=164318 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-au -- Version: 3.1 GCS dpu s: a18 C++ UL++ P+ L(+++) E--- W+++ N-- o+ K? w+++(---) O M-- V? PS+ PE+++ Y? PGP-- t+ 5? X? R-- tv-- b++(+) DI D+ G e* h! r !y+ Russell Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ghostgum Software Pty Ltd http://www.ghostgum.com.au/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-au -- Franc ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-au
