Re: [Talk-GB] Pigging potlach ...
On 11 Jan 2012 22:08, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Lester Caine wrote: I know what areas of data I am working on. OK Just crashed it again ... but having done at least a couple of hours work and saved MOST of it. So to log current state ... Flash area just went grey Bottom line has Transfering data from ecn.t0.tiles.virtualearth.net... Processors are quiet RAM at 35% Swap 0% Trying to close tab get This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave - data you have entered may not be saved and this leaves a track in the grey area. Do you have multiple browser tabs open? There's a horrible flash bug on at least 64 bit Linux that will happily freeze any and all flash instances within your browser. The culprit is usually some stupid video advert in a tab you're not even using. It seems to get more likely the more flash is running. Symptoms are all your flash areas going grey and unresponsive. Only mitigation I found is use a separate browser for editing. If your normal browser is Firefox, just fire up chrome for potlatch only to stop the interference. I was actually using this in a non-potlatch context: trying to watch f1 practice on iPlayer at the same time as surfing news sites. Dave ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Pigging potlach ...
Dave Stubbs wrote: On 11 Jan 2012 22:08, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Lester Caine wrote: I know what areas of data I am working on. OK Just crashed it again ... but having done at least a couple of hours work and saved MOST of it. So to log current state ... Flash area just went grey Bottom line has Transfering data from ecn.t0.tiles.virtualearth.net... Processors are quiet RAM at 35% Swap 0% Trying to close tab get This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave - data you have entered may not be saved and this leaves a track in the grey area. Do you have multiple browser tabs open? There's a horrible flash bug on at least 64 bit Linux that will happily freeze any and all flash instances within your browser. The culprit is usually some stupid video advert in a tab you're not even using. It seems to get more likely the more flash is running. Symptoms are all your flash areas going grey and unresponsive. Only mitigation I found is use a separate browser for editing. If your normal browser is Firefox, just fire up chrome for potlatch only to stop the interference. I was actually using this in a non-potlatch context: trying to watch f1 practice on iPlayer at the same time as surfing news sites. OK I did have a lot less active last night ... and probably was looking up other data to cross check things at that point in the evening. I DID have flash disabled completely simply to get rid of the advertising crap, so I probably want seamonkey configured with that off again, and just use a firefox window for editing ;) Thanks for the nudge ... exactly the sort of thing I was looking for! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Please do not use Code-Point Open, (postcode) data in OSM
Michael Collinson mike@... writes: OS data is currently not distributed under UK Open Government Licence but their own license which then incorporates UK Open Government Licence. Their own license includes a downstream attribution clause which OGL does not. Ah - I was going by http://data.gov.uk/dataset/os-code-point-open which seems to indicate the OGL is used. So that web page is not quite correct? CC-BY-SA technically forces map makers to attribute each and every contributor to OSM, ODbL does not. Is it at least possible to combine map data under ODbL with the Code-Point Open data to make a 'map plus postcodes' data set? I am guessing that the answer is no, at least not if you want to distribute that data. ODbL does not require attribution but it might be revised in ODbL 1.1 to allow an attribution requirement to be added by downstream users. Then it would be possible for users of ODbL-licenced maps to combine them with other open data that has an attribution requirement, although sadly such data could not be used to improve OSM itself. (As well as this postcode data set, another example of geodata with attribution requirement is the CommonMap project, a CC-BY licenced map of the world, which was partly intended as a common upstream which several map projects including OSM could take data from.) -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Using Bing in hilly areas (was: GB License Change Readiness)
On 08/01/2012 13:49, Michael Collinson wrote: I find it very easy to replace them with much better since we now additionally have Bing for position and OS StreetView for names On this one particular point, use Bing for positioning with caution in coastal and hilly areas. The parts of Cornwall I've mapped (Polruan being the biggest example) have shown that the Bing imagery is only coarsely rectified. Where there are steep hills, the features on them aren't positioned correctly. I've found that OS StreetView matches my traces much closer in areas like this, so use a combination of sources and some judgement. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Please do not use Code-Point Open, (postcode) data in OSM
Michael Collinson mike@... writes: I regretfully have to relay that while the Ordnance Survey has no objections to geodata derived in part from OS OpenData being released under the Open Database License 1.0, this has to permanently exclude Code-Point Open, (postcode) data. Could you check http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue and make sure the information there is correct as you understand it? -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Please do not use Code-Point Open, (postcode) data in OSM
On 12/01/2012 13:41, Andrew wrote: Michael Collinsonmike@... writes: I regretfully have to relay that while the Ordnance Survey has no objections to geodata derived in part from OS OpenData being released under the Open Database License 1.0, this has to permanently exclude Code-Point Open, (postcode) data. Could you check http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue and make sure the information there is correct as you understand it? Thanks Andrew. It was out of date. I have updated it and added to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata#License Mike ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb