[Talk-GB] Micronations
If you look at zoom level 3 for the UK you will see the Kingdom of Ivania rendered. A google search throws up http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ivania which is a vanity nation consisting of someone's bedroom in Derbyshire. I can see a rash of these appearing. Are they appropriate to be present in OSM? I think not ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Micronations
On 10 May 2012 08:23, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: If you look at zoom level 3 for the UK you will see the Kingdom of Ivania rendered. A google search throws up http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ivania which is a vanity nation consisting of someone's bedroom in Derbyshire. I can see a rash of these appearing. Are they appropriate to be present in OSM? I think not They are completely inappropriate for OSM, and should be removed immediately. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Micronations
Hi, On 05/10/2012 09:32 AM, Andy Allan wrote: If you look at zoom level 3 for the UK you will see the Kingdom of Ivania rendered. A google search throws up http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ivania which is a vanity nation consisting of someone's bedroom in Derbyshire. I can see a rash of these appearing. Are they appropriate to be present in OSM? I think not They are completely inappropriate for OSM, and should be removed immediately. I requested a re-render of the tile and Ivania is gone now; but the last render was from 04 May which means that it has been up there for at least 6 days until someone brought it up. Something to keep in mind for automatic vandalism detectors; anything rendered on small zooms is a more attractive target for playful contributors. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Micronations
Really not, and doesn't have the comedy ring of being his parents basement. Can't find it, I guess its somewhere in Buxton? Phil Sent from my Nokia N9 On 10/05/2012 8:23 Brian Prangle wrote: If you look at zoom level 3 for the UK you will see the Kingdom of Ivania rendered. A google search throws up http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ivania which is a vanity nation consisting of someone's bedroom in Derbyshire. I can see a rash of these appearing. Are they appropriate to be present in OSM? I think not ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Micronations
Brian wrote: http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ivania which is a vanity nation consisting of someone's bedroom in Derbyshire. I can see a rash of these appearing. Are they appropriate to be present in OSM? I think not I agree with the not. But 1 permanent resident? Bed-ridden I presume. I've not yet checked how Rough's Fort (aka Sealand) is tagged - a more well-known micronation who had their first international football game the other day: http://www.harwichandmanningtreestandard.co.uk/news/localnews/9694306.Sealand_plays_first_official_international_football_match/ (shortened http://is.gd/BAy3zB ) Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Ensuring ground-breaking Welsh Active Travel Bill promotes open data mapping
Yesterday the Welsh Government published a consultation on a ground-breaking Active Travel Bill. http://wales.gov.uk/consultations/transport/activetravelbill/?lang=enThe White Paper sets out proposals to require Local Authorities in Wales to: * identify and map the network of routes within their areas that are safe and appropriate for walking and cycling; * identify and map the enhancements that would be required to create a fully integrated network for walking and cycling and develop a prioritised list of schemes to deliver the network; There's surely a huge opportunity to integrate this with OSM and make the mapping of current and proposed routes fit for the 21st century rather than simply repeating the methods of 20th century definitive maps? In relation to the first bullet point, would OSM need new tags to record suitability of ways for walking and cycling? For example, grading a route based on level of Bikeability training needed to cycle along it? That wouldn't necessarily cover crossings or things like making right turns and there's nothing I'm aware of that's similar for walking - TfL does have a level of service methodology but it's too detailed and complicated. If there was good coverage of things like speed limits on OSM then perhaps some spatial analysis tools could be used to combine different sources of data such as motor traffic flows, KSI and community feelings of traffic intimidation to help to provide some sort of objective justification. The second proposed map could be more difficult as the routes would initially be indicative or speculative rather than in any way approved, such as the route of HS2 is now. Would this need to be a fork of OSM, for example to enable a local authority to control the proposals and produce a definitive enhancement map every few years rather than having it being continuously changed? Are there any tools for doing this as it's something I'd like to promote as part of neighbourhood planning, since it could help enable communities earmark a share of Community Infrastructure Levy or New Homes Bonus for things like new walking and cycle paths or community facilities. Given the continuing discussions about Rights of Ways on this list, you may also be interested that the consultation also covers changing Welsh definitions of RoWs so that they are different to the English ones, though nothing is specifically proposed. Defra is due (or rather has been due for some time) to publish a consultation on fundamental changes to RoWs on this side of Offa's Dyke, so maybe the Welsh are waiting to take the lead from that. Ralph ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Micronations
The Principality of Sealand is here, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.894396lon=1.482519zoom=18layers=M On 10 May 2012 09:10, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: Brian wrote: http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ivania which is a vanity nation consisting of someone's bedroom in Derbyshire. I can see a rash of these appearing. Are they appropriate to be present in OSM? I think not ** ** I agree with the not. But 1 permanent resident? Bed-ridden I presume.* *** ** ** I've not yet checked how Rough's Fort (aka Sealand) is tagged - a more well-known micronation who had their first international football game the other day: ** ** http://www.harwichandmanningtreestandard.co.uk/news/localnews/9694306.Sealand_plays_first_official_international_football_match/ ** ** (shortened http://is.gd/BAy3zB ) ** ** Ed ** ** ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of way - Image vote
Thanks for commenting/voting on which images provided enough evidence to tag a way as a public footpath / public bridleway. I am pleased to see that there was agreement on the simple cases. Others were not so clear cut and I chuckled when I saw that a Undecided option had been added to the voting options. :-) Next Steps: * It has previously been suggested that a suspected=* tag be used for when a mapper is undecided. Unless there are objections, I will add suspected=* (where * is one of the 4 options - public footpath/bridleway/BOAT/RB) and a generic suspected=row to the wiki guidelines. This may help us to help councils find lost way before the 2026 deadline. * 2 more images! - I am interested in how far the suspected tag should go. Please see the 2 additional images (taken from the wiki) added at the bottom of the link and vote/comment as you see appropriate: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WyD_Bezo5FXw27ei0eHTj1CH6Pzfbk-fz4yBd5zc7h0/edit Cheers, Rob --- Hi All Thanks for all the feedback on the UK tagging guidelines page. I have collated all these together and will start to implement changes to the page before reporting back here. I would like to add a few more images to help new users identify public rights of way. Can you please spend a couple of minutes to vote on whether the following images provide enough evidence to support a designation=public_footpath / public_bridleway tag: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WyD_Bezo5FXw27ei0eHTj1CH6Pzfbk-fz4yBd5zc7h0/edit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WyD_Bezo5FXw27ei0eHTj1CH6Pzfbk-fz4yBd5zc7h0/edit Thanks, RobJN ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
