Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

[Jez Nicholson]

Here's my first go at the Kilamanjaro map
http://mapwarper.net/maps/12352#Preview_Map_tab

On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 at 20:43 SK53  wrote:

> There is/was a mapwarper instance for wikimedia. I don't have the details
> to hand, but perhaps Tim Waters will be able to tell us.
>
> I think the problem with older maps of Africa and Asia is that a lot more
> has changed than in Britain in the same period.
>
> The set of maps which BL has digitised which I'd be very interested in are
> city insurance maps. Certainly Leicester, Nottingham & Belfast are covered.
> As far as I know these have not been made available on wikimedia.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 31 January 2016 at 20:04, Richard Fairhurst 
> wrote:
>
>> Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> > David Woolley wrote:
>> > > Are you really asking if anyone is prepared to fund the tile server,
>> > > and donate time to any georeferencing needed?
>> > I'm asking what the *potential* is for that, or any other necessary
>> > steps, to be done.
>>
>> For individual sheets like this, I think Mapwarper (mapwarper.net) is
>> going
>> to be your best bet. It's not the sort of task that's well suited to the
>> techcentric skillset of OSM Operations (by which I mean Grant :) ) and I'd
>> be surprised if there were any local chapters willing to take it on,
>> though
>> you could try HOT, perhaps.
>>
>> But at heart - if you'd like to get some of these rectified, load them
>> into
>> Mapwarper and have a play! And if you find it works, then you can recruit
>> more people to the cause.
>>
>> cheers
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

[Tim Waters]

On 1 February 2016 at 12:30, Jez Nicholson  wrote:

> I've copied my control points over to http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/629
>

Great stuff. I think a few hundred maps (if not all) from this collection
are already in the wikimaps warper.
However there was an issue with making a mosaic (stitched layer) for the
category, so this will be fixed soon.

The "warped" parameter in the wiki page enables the button for users to get
from the wiki to the warper. You can add it to the pages, or you can search
for them within the warper itself.

I think the British Library also has control points for the maps which
could be added to the warper when ready (I'd have to double check on this
point though).

Regards,

Tim



>
> On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 at 11:51 Grant Slater 
> wrote:
>
>> On 31 January 2016 at 20:04, Richard Fairhurst 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > For individual sheets like this, I think Mapwarper (mapwarper.net) is
>> going
>> > to be your best bet. It's not the sort of task that's well suited to the
>> > techcentric skillset of OSM Operations (by which I mean Grant :) ) and
>> I'd
>> > be surprised if there were any local chapters willing to take it on,
>> though
>> > you could try HOT, perhaps.
>> >
>>
>> Agreed. I am only really setup to handle imagery/maps which have known
>> coordinates and projections. Maps with custom or eccentric
>> coordinates/projections are best manually geotagged and warped.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Grant
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Re: [Talk-GB] School mapping - Who's involved

[Gregory]

Hello,

1) I think isced:level is really helpful, as I've known people wanting a
list of "all primary schools nearby" for various jobs. Is there a map/list
that shows schools with that tag or not? Maybe something like ITO World's
maps?
1b) Ah, they have one for name/no-name, might be good to request
isced:level there too (or if it has the ID).
http://product.itoworld.com/map/6
1c) I'm being silly and forgetting how easy Overpass API is now. But it
doesn't allow two queries at once and to visually compare the difference.
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/e7o

2a) What tag are people using for the ID?
2b) Presumably the only way to get the/an ID is from the gov.uk data? It's
copyright doesn't allow use, but perhaps using it for the ID is okay? So
far this quarter I have been using OS StreetView or googling for a website
as a name source. As a result, all the schools I've edited/added in the
last month have a "website" tag.

Btw, County Durham is very annoying. Since maybe 3 years ago they have been
combining schools (juniors & infants into primary, or two villages now
having 1 school to share, plus all the academy-type name & management
changes). Probably a good time for this enjoyable project then! Meanwhile
my landlady's job involves visiting schools all over the county. Anyone got
a long lasting camera & a GPS logger I can secretly strap to her car/bag?

>From Durham,
Gregory.


On 1 February 2016 at 14:47, Rob Nickerson 
wrote:

> All,
>
> We've a few of way's of counting how many people are involved with the
> quarterly project to map schools. As such I have updated the wiki to focus
> on comments rather than the raw numbers (e.g. which areas are you mapping,
> how else are you helping). Feel free to update.
>
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Projects#Who.27s_involved.3F
>
> Latest data from the #OSMschools tag is here:
>
> http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2016/02/whos-involved-edits-to-openstreetmap.html
>
> Harry's tracker is great as it counts edits to amenity=school features:
>
> http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/diffreader/schools/index.php?filter=uk
>
> By features we've mapped nearly 1250 schools as ways, removed nearly 1000
> schools mapped as nodes (either converted to a way or removed duplication).
> Overall that is 250 "new" schools mapped. This is a minimum as I don't know
> how many of the 1000 nodes removed were duplicates.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G9KXfp4Ho3fVROO9MxotcYTydl9CEXB_fi5ko2pM5Kc/edit#gid=1336142515
>
> Happy mapping
> *Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

[Grant Slater]

On 31 January 2016 at 20:04, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
>
> For individual sheets like this, I think Mapwarper (mapwarper.net) is going
> to be your best bet. It's not the sort of task that's well suited to the
> techcentric skillset of OSM Operations (by which I mean Grant :) ) and I'd
> be surprised if there were any local chapters willing to take it on, though
> you could try HOT, perhaps.
>

Agreed. I am only really setup to handle imagery/maps which have known
coordinates and projections. Maps with custom or eccentric
coordinates/projections are best manually geotagged and warped.

Kind regards,

Grant

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Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

[Jez Nicholson]

I've copied my control points over to http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/629

On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 at 11:51 Grant Slater 
wrote:

> On 31 January 2016 at 20:04, Richard Fairhurst 
> wrote:
> >
> > For individual sheets like this, I think Mapwarper (mapwarper.net) is
> going
> > to be your best bet. It's not the sort of task that's well suited to the
> > techcentric skillset of OSM Operations (by which I mean Grant :) ) and
> I'd
> > be surprised if there were any local chapters willing to take it on,
> though
> > you could try HOT, perhaps.
> >
>
> Agreed. I am only really setup to handle imagery/maps which have known
> coordinates and projections. Maps with custom or eccentric
> coordinates/projections are best manually geotagged and warped.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Grant
>
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[Talk-GB] School mapping - Who's involved

[Rob Nickerson]

All,

We've a few of way's of counting how many people are involved with the
quarterly project to map schools. As such I have updated the wiki to focus
on comments rather than the raw numbers (e.g. which areas are you mapping,
how else are you helping). Feel free to update.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Projects#Who.27s_involved.3F

Latest data from the #OSMschools tag is here:
http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2016/02/whos-involved-edits-to-openstreetmap.html

Harry's tracker is great as it counts edits to amenity=school features:
http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/diffreader/schools/index.php?filter=uk

By features we've mapped nearly 1250 schools as ways, removed nearly 1000
schools mapped as nodes (either converted to a way or removed duplication).
Overall that is 250 "new" schools mapped. This is a minimum as I don't know
how many of the 1000 nodes removed were duplicates.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G9KXfp4Ho3fVROO9MxotcYTydl9CEXB_fi5ko2pM5Kc/edit#gid=1336142515

Happy mapping
*Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] School mapping - Who's involved

[Dave F]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_turbo/MapCSS

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/e7F

Dave F.



On 01/02/2016 17:02, Gregory wrote:

Cheers Dave, the "sets" feature of Overpass is good to know about.

However the set logic isn't what I'm after as such.
I want to all schools that have an isced:level tag to be blue dots, 
all the schools without an isced:level tag to be red dots. You could 
display other comparisons, such as schools with a name tag as blue 
dots and schools without name tags as red dots.


Overpass is primarily an fancy export tool, so this feature isn't 
probably beyond it's scope/objective. If I really wanted I could use 
Overpass to export all schools and then use QGIS to colour them 
depending on what tags are present or not.


From DH1,
Gregory.

On 1 February 2016 at 16:50, Dave F > wrote:


Re 1c)
Unsure what two queries you want to compare, but OT does allow
difference comparisons by first saving each query result to a
variable:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#Sets

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#Difference

Example:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/e7s

This returns all edits from the last day that weren't by me.
Obviously you'd need to change it to your user name to see any
results & you can vary the day/hour.

Dave F.




On 01/02/2016 16:16, Gregory wrote:

Hello,

1) I think isced:level is really helpful, as I've known people
wanting a list of "all primary schools nearby" for various jobs.
Is there a map/list that shows schools with that tag or not?
Maybe something like ITO World's maps?
1b) Ah, they have one for name/no-name, might be good to request
isced:level there too (or if it has the ID).
http://product.itoworld.com/map/6
1c) I'm being silly and forgetting how easy Overpass API is now.
But it doesn't allow two queries at once and to visually compare
the difference. http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/e7o

2a) What tag are people using for the ID?
2b) Presumably the only way to get the/an ID is from the gov.uk
 data? It's copyright doesn't allow use, but
perhaps using it for the ID is okay? So far this quarter I have
been using OS StreetView or googling for a website as a name
source. As a result, all the schools I've edited/added in the
last month have a "website" tag.

Btw, County Durham is very annoying. Since maybe 3 years ago they
have been combining schools (juniors & infants into primary, or
two villages now having 1 school to share, plus all the
academy-type name & management changes). Probably a good time for
this enjoyable project then! Meanwhile my landlady's job involves
visiting schools all over the county. Anyone got a long lasting
camera & a GPS logger I can secretly strap to her car/bag?

From Durham,
Gregory.


On 1 February 2016 at 14:47, Rob Nickerson
> wrote:

All,

We've a few of way's of counting how many people are involved
with the quarterly project to map schools. As such I have
updated the wiki to focus on comments rather than the raw
numbers (e.g. which areas are you mapping, how else are you
helping). Feel free to update.


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Projects#Who.27s_involved.3F

Latest data from the #OSMschools tag is here:

http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2016/02/whos-involved-edits-to-openstreetmap.html

Harry's tracker is great as it counts edits to amenity=school
features:

http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/diffreader/schools/index.php?filter=uk

By features we've mapped nearly 1250 schools as ways, removed
nearly 1000 schools mapped as nodes (either converted to a
way or removed duplication). Overall that is 250 "new"
schools mapped. This is a minimum as I don't know how many of
the 1000 nodes removed were duplicates.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G9KXfp4Ho3fVROO9MxotcYTydl9CEXB_fi5ko2pM5Kc/edit#gid=1336142515

Happy mapping
*Rob*

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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] February meeting on Wednesday

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

Don't forget that we have our regular monthly meeting this Wednesday! Hope
to see you there:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia#Next_meeting

Best,
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Re: [Talk-GB] UK war office maps of Africa digitised

[Andy Mabbett]

On 1 February 2016 at 13:02, Tim Waters  wrote:

> Great stuff. I think a few hundred maps (if not all) from this collection
> are already in the wikimaps warper.
> However there was an issue with making a mosaic (stitched layer) for the
> category, so this will be fixed soon.

Once that's done, how can people see the layer in JOSM?

> I think the British Library also has control points for the maps which could
> be added to the warper when ready (I'd have to double check on this point
> though).

My contact tells me they (BL & Indigo Trust) want to see the maps
reused; if there's a speciific request, I can forward it to them.

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