Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-02 Thread Ed Loach
Thanks from me too Robert. Of course the first place I zoomed into was where I 
live. It appears that where the house next door was knocked down (roughly 10 to 
15 years ago at a guess) and two built there are three pins. Checking the 
council's planning portal it was 17 years ago and the application lists 3 
associated properties with one being "Site of former (address that was knocked 
down)". I think it also includes pins at junctions that represent what the 
council call their "street record" in the planning portal, e.g. for 
https://idox.tendringdc.gov.uk/online-applications/propertyDetails.do?keyVal=JQS696QB03B01=summary

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From: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) 
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:38:03 PM
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Subject: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

I'm not completely sure if/how we can best make use of the new OS
OpenData (UPRNs, USRNs and related links) in OpenStreetMap, but as a
first step I've set up a quick slippy map with the UPRN locations
shown:

https://osm.mathmos.net/addresses/uprn/ (zoom in to level 16 to show the data)

The UPRN dataset literally just contains the UPRN number and its
coordinates (both OS National Grid and WGS lat/lon). There are some
additional linking datasets that link these ids to other ids (e.g.
USRNs, TOIDs). But no address information is available directly. (You
may be able to get street names by matching to OS Open Roads via TOIDs
though. Coupled with Code-Point Open, you might be able to assign
quite a few postcodes in cases where there's only one unit for a whole
street.)

The UPRN data has already helped me find a mapping error I made
locally though -- it looks like I'd accidentally missed drawing a
house outline from aerial imagery, and also classified a large garage
a few doors down as a house. The two errors cancelled out when the
houses were numbered sequentially, so I didn't notice until now. Today
though I spotted a UPRN marker over some blank space on the map, and
no marker over the mapped house that's probably a garage.

Now a few initial thoughts on the data that I've explored so far:

I believe that the UPRNs are assigned by local authorities, so
conventions may vary from place to place. I don't know who actually
assigns the coordinates (authority or OS). Looking at those for rows
of houses around me, they don't seem to have been automatically given
coordinates from the house footprint, it looks more like someone
manually clicking on a map.

The UPRN dataset should include all addressable properties. It is also
ahead of reality in some places, as it includes locations for houses
on a new development near me that have yet to be built yet. For blocks
of apartments/flats, the UPRN nodes may all have the same coordinates
or may be displaced from each other, possibly in an artificial manner.

Other objects also appear to have UPRNs. Likely things I've noticed so
far include: car parks, post boxes, telephone boxes (even after
they've been removed), electricity sub-stations, roads and recorded
footpaths (the UPRN locations seem to be at one end of the street, so
usually lie at a junction), recreation grounds / play areas,
floodlight poles (around sports pitches), and allotments. There's no
information about the object type in the UPRN data unfortunately.

Anyway, I hope some of this is useful / interesting. I hope to be on
the OSMUK call on Saturday to discuss things further. Best wishes,

Robert.

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Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-02 Thread Nick

Hi Peter

re: "I am still not clear how best to use the data available" - I have 
written a simple bit of VBA that enables address data to be retrieved 
for a given UPRN (I attach the VBA used in a form for Excel) - this only 
works for Scotland but may be available elsewhere. Using the concept you 
can use Python (a friend has done some preliminary work) or similar. 
This is not elegant but is perhaps a first step in enabling a whole lot 
of development?


Cheers

Nick


On 02/07/2020 18:38, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:

Hi Robert,

Many thanks for producing that map.

I was able to look at my street and see a blue pin in each of the 
building outlines that I had mapped from aerial imagery, so that gave 
me a warm, smug feeling :)


I too noticed some not-yet-there properties in a nearby development 
that had UPRNs assigned - Not a problem really (IMHO).  There is also 
one allocated to a pond near me; I didn't know that was "addressable"!


However, I am still not clear how best to use the data available, if 
you can't use it to look up the address of the property.  Similarly, I 
am not sure how a data consumer could use the data, if we laboriously 
edited every property in OSM to include a "ref:GB:UPRN=" tag (or 
similar; other tags are available.).


Sorry not to be able to contribute something more useful... :(

Regards,
Peter



On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 17:40:51 BST, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) 
 wrote:



I'm not completely sure if/how we can best make use of the new OS
OpenData (UPRNs, USRNs and related links) in OpenStreetMap, but as a
first step I've set up a quick slippy map with the UPRN locations
shown:

https://osm.mathmos.net/addresses/uprn/ 
(zoom in to level 16 to show 
the data)


The UPRN dataset literally just contains the UPRN number and its
coordinates (both OS National Grid and WGS lat/lon). There are some
additional linking datasets that link these ids to other ids (e.g.
USRNs, TOIDs). But no address information is available directly. (You
may be able to get street names by matching to OS Open Roads via TOIDs
though. Coupled with Code-Point Open, you might be able to assign
quite a few postcodes in cases where there's only one unit for a whole
street.)

The UPRN data has already helped me find a mapping error I made
locally though -- it looks like I'd accidentally missed drawing a
house outline from aerial imagery, and also classified a large garage
a few doors down as a house. The two errors cancelled out when the
houses were numbered sequentially, so I didn't notice until now. Today
though I spotted a UPRN marker over some blank space on the map, and
no marker over the mapped house that's probably a garage.

Now a few initial thoughts on the data that I've explored so far:

I believe that the UPRNs are assigned by local authorities, so
conventions may vary from place to place. I don't know who actually
assigns the coordinates (authority or OS). Looking at those for rows
of houses around me, they don't seem to have been automatically given
coordinates from the house footprint, it looks more like someone
manually clicking on a map.

The UPRN dataset should include all addressable properties. It is also
ahead of reality in some places, as it includes locations for houses
on a new development near me that have yet to be built yet. For blocks
of apartments/flats, the UPRN nodes may all have the same coordinates
or may be displaced from each other, possibly in an artificial manner.

Other objects also appear to have UPRNs. Likely things I've noticed so
far include: car parks, post boxes, telephone boxes (even after
they've been removed), electricity sub-stations, roads and recorded
footpaths (the UPRN locations seem to be at one end of the street, so
usually lie at a junction), recreation grounds / play areas,
floodlight poles (around sports pitches), and allotments. There's no
information about the object type in the UPRN data unfortunately.

Anyway, I hope some of this is useful / interesting. I hope to be on
the OSMUK call on Saturday to discuss things further. Best wishes,

Robert.

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Private Sub CommandButton1_Click()
On Error GoTo ErrorHandler

 Dim wBk As Workbook
 Dim wSht As Worksheet
 Dim r As Long
  Set wBk = ActiveWorkbook
  Set wSht = wBk.Worksheets("UPRN")
  r = wSht.Range("A" & wSht.Rows.Count).End(xlUp).Row
  r = r + 1

Dim UPRN As String
 If IsNumeric(Me.TextBox1.Value) = False Then
  MsgBox "UPRN must be numeric"
  Exit Sub
 End If
 
 If Len(Me.TextBox1.Value) > 12 Then
  MsgBox "UPRNs are integers that can be up to 12 digits in length"
  Exit Sub
 

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-02 Thread Dan Glover

On 2020-07-02 19:52, SK53 wrote:


I've also had a quick look, and your hints are quite useful.


Very much agreed, thanks Robert.


One thing I've noticed is UPRNs which I suspect are for building
shells. So there's a house which has recently been converted into
student housing with a hair transplant surgery on the ground floor.
This has 3 UPRNs. The next property down is a small parade of 4 shops
with 3 office units above and this has a total of 10 UPRNs. The next
parade of 6 shops has 7 UPRNs. At least one is the shell, or possibly
the land parcel on which the property sits.


Not sure whether this list accepts images, so I'll use words. Near here 
is a three-storey building built in the 1970s as a branch of Tesco. It 
closed and was converted to 5 shops and 20 flats in the mid-1980s. One 
of the markers shows a contiguous block of 20 UPRNs, plus one with a 
slightly higher number and another in a completely different range. The 
flats are leasehold, as might be expected, but the residential part of 
the building also has an overall leasehold and is managed separately 
from the retail units. Unfortunately I can't find a way to decode them 
further - the local planning system doesn't show UPRNs.



Post boxes, substations, patches of grass (I presume), and bus stops
are things I've spotted.[...]


I suppose local practice may vary. Post boxes, yes, bus stop coverage 
seems patchy around here (Canterbury District Council) but beach huts 
and individual kiosks on the pier appear along with some statues/art 
installations. There are a few markers in a car park which may be 
payment machines - and one is on the beach but doesn't correspond to any 
known feature - it could be the beach itself has a UPRN!



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Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-02 Thread Mark Goodge



On 02/07/2020 19:52, SK53 wrote:

Post boxes, substations, patches of grass (I presume), and bus stops are 
things I've spotted. The oddity is a great forest of UPRNs over a 
hospital building 
. 


They may possibly be multiple postal addresses, for example for post to 
different departments, that share a location.


On a similar note, this view of a postal depot in Stoke only has one 
marker on the building itself:


https://osm.mathmos.net/addresses/uprn/#19/52.9423/-1.1827

But, actually, there are multiple UPRNs all sharing identical 
coordinates - so many, in fact, that if you click on the marker, the 
list expands so far that it shifts the viewpoint of the map which then 
hides them all again, so you can't actually read them!


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Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-02 Thread Mark Goodge



On 02/07/2020 18:38, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:

Hi Robert,

Many thanks for producing that map.

I was able to look at my street and see a blue pin in each of the 
building outlines that I had mapped from aerial imagery, so that gave me 
a warm, smug feeling :)


I too noticed some not-yet-there properties in a nearby development that 
had UPRNs assigned - Not a problem really (IMHO).  There is also one 
allocated to a pond near me; I didn't know that was "addressable"!


They're not addressable in the sense that they have a postal address. 
But they still need to have some form of identification that can be used 
for things like planning applications, business rates, etc.


However, I am still not clear how best to use the data available, if you 
can't use it to look up the address of the property.  Similarly, I am 
not sure how a data consumer could use the data, if we laboriously 
edited every property in OSM to include a "ref:GB:UPRN=" tag (or 
similar; other tags are available.).


In the short term, not a lot. But, in the long run, UPRNs are likely to 
have increasing importance. Consumers will be expected to know, or at 
least know where to find, their UPRN - it will be a public identifier 
for business rates and council tax, for example. I would even expect 
sat-navs to start supporting them - they are more precise than 
postcodes, but easier to type in than a full address. So having them 
available to the map will facilitate that.


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Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-02 Thread SK53
I've also had a quick look, and your hints are quite useful.

One thing I've noticed is UPRNs which I suspect are for building shells. So
there's a house which has recently been converted into student housing with
a hair transplant surgery on the ground floor. This has 3 UPRNs. The next
property down is a small parade of 4 shops with 3 office units above and
this has a total of 10 UPRNs. The next parade of 6 shops has 7 UPRNs. At
least one is the shell, or possibly the land parcel on which the property
sits.

One of the university buildings has a number of self-contained flats, but
there are no UPRNs for these (presumably postal mail goes to the tenants
through the internal mail).

Post boxes, substations, patches of grass (I presume), and bus stops are
things I've spotted. The oddity is a great forest of UPRNs over a hospital
building .
Student residences ('villages') seem to have one UPRN per flat/studio + 1
for the building itself. What is interesting is that quite a few shops (on
university premises) which pay business rates do not seem to appear, and
conversely ATMs which are ratable do not appear at all. Street lights, man
hole covers, street cabinets, gullies etc do not appear, and I think are
not captured for MasterMap. It does not resolve a local mapping conundrum,
which is what happened to the rifle range underneath a former canal bridge.

Jerry

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <
robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not completely sure if/how we can best make use of the new OS
> OpenData (UPRNs, USRNs and related links) in OpenStreetMap, but as a
> first step I've set up a quick slippy map with the UPRN locations
> shown:
>
> https://osm.mathmos.net/addresses/uprn/ (zoom in to level 16 to show the
> data)
>
> The UPRN dataset literally just contains the UPRN number and its
> coordinates (both OS National Grid and WGS lat/lon). There are some
> additional linking datasets that link these ids to other ids (e.g.
> USRNs, TOIDs). But no address information is available directly. (You
> may be able to get street names by matching to OS Open Roads via TOIDs
> though. Coupled with Code-Point Open, you might be able to assign
> quite a few postcodes in cases where there's only one unit for a whole
> street.)
>
> The UPRN data has already helped me find a mapping error I made
> locally though -- it looks like I'd accidentally missed drawing a
> house outline from aerial imagery, and also classified a large garage
> a few doors down as a house. The two errors cancelled out when the
> houses were numbered sequentially, so I didn't notice until now. Today
> though I spotted a UPRN marker over some blank space on the map, and
> no marker over the mapped house that's probably a garage.
>
> Now a few initial thoughts on the data that I've explored so far:
>
> I believe that the UPRNs are assigned by local authorities, so
> conventions may vary from place to place. I don't know who actually
> assigns the coordinates (authority or OS). Looking at those for rows
> of houses around me, they don't seem to have been automatically given
> coordinates from the house footprint, it looks more like someone
> manually clicking on a map.
>
> The UPRN dataset should include all addressable properties. It is also
> ahead of reality in some places, as it includes locations for houses
> on a new development near me that have yet to be built yet. For blocks
> of apartments/flats, the UPRN nodes may all have the same coordinates
> or may be displaced from each other, possibly in an artificial manner.
>
> Other objects also appear to have UPRNs. Likely things I've noticed so
> far include: car parks, post boxes, telephone boxes (even after
> they've been removed), electricity sub-stations, roads and recorded
> footpaths (the UPRN locations seem to be at one end of the street, so
> usually lie at a junction), recreation grounds / play areas,
> floodlight poles (around sports pitches), and allotments. There's no
> information about the object type in the UPRN data unfortunately.
>
> Anyway, I hope some of this is useful / interesting. I hope to be on
> the OSMUK call on Saturday to discuss things further. Best wishes,
>
> Robert.
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Solar Power mapping update Q2 2020

2020-07-02 Thread Gregory Williams
Thanks Jerry, and thanks to everyone that's continued to contribute
more coverage.

The next quarter's update to the FiT register should be published in
the next few days. So I hope to find time to update the site to use
that soon.

I continue to be amazed at the steady progress in the coverage. Though,
as you say, there are quite a few areas where the imagery either just
isn't clear enough to untangle the ambiguities, or is clear but isn't
recent enough.

Personally, I've recently been trying to concentrate on a mixture of
areas with less than 10% coverage, and on the lightly-mapped LSOA
hotspots that my tool picked out.

Cheers,

Gregory

On Thu, 2020-07-02 at 18:56 +0100, SK53 wrote:
> We passed a couple of milestones a few days ago:
> 20% of FIT totals
> 170k individual panels mapped (excluding those in solar farms)
> In terms of coverage there are now well over 50 LAs (all in England &
> Wales) with more than 50% of solar installations mapped, with around
> 10 exceeding 80%. Areas with good coverage are:
> Scottish Central Belt: helped no doubt by more atomic data much of
> the Central Belt is around 20% mapped.
> North-East (former Tyne & Wear): Newcastle, Gateshead, Sunderland and
> North & South Tyne.
> North Wales: Conwy, Flint, Denbigh & Wrexham. Most panels in the
> first three are in the coastal resort towns, but reasonable rural
> coverage.
> North West: recent activity has been around Preston, Blackburn Wigan
> and Chorley.
> East Midlands: mainly Leics & Notts. Improved & recent imagery for
> Leicester made a huge difference.
> West Midlands: Warwickshire, Worcestershire & Herefordshire are
> roughly in the 20-30% zone. ALso extending into the South Wales
> valleys. brianboru's detailed mapping in the latter is another good
> index of rural coverage. 
> South Coast: Bournemouth area & Southampton, all at over 50%
> More rural areas continue to be challenging: older imagery which is
> often difficult to interpret doesn't help. I've experimented in
> places where every building is already mapped by stepping through
> each building, but still one may only find 20% of the number in FIT.
> 
> London and immediately adjacent areas also have relatively little
> mapped. Imagery can be a problem, but also finding panels in older
> and/or larger housing with more complex roof shapes is hard.
> 
> One thing I'm continually amazed at is how many places have buildings
> mapped, which is very helpful for this task. However in a couple of
> places: Ribble Valley & Leicester - it is clear that better imagery
> would allow existing building outlines to be improved, but also that
> plenty of buildings have been extended, demolished or replaced. This
> type of activity lends itself to combined work using tools such as
> Tasking Manager or MapRoulette and might be worth considering in the
> future for a quarterly project.
> 
> There's still no shortage of places where a lot of panels can be
> mapped quickly, although more systematic mapping of a single LA often
> requires a couple of passes over imagery. 
> 
> Looking forward to achieving the next milestones of 200k & 25%.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> Personally, I'm concentrating on areas adjacent to the existing well-
> mapped (50%+) areas with the aim of extending these areas.
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[Talk-GB] Solar Power mapping update Q2 2020

2020-07-02 Thread SK53
We passed a couple of milestones a few days ago:

   - 20% of FIT totals
   - 170k individual panels mapped (excluding those in solar farms)

In terms of coverage there are now well over 50 LAs (all in England &
Wales) with more than 50% of solar installations mapped, with around 10
exceeding 80%. Areas with good coverage are:

   - Scottish Central Belt: helped no doubt by more atomic data much of the
   Central Belt is around 20% mapped.
   - North-East (former Tyne & Wear): Newcastle, Gateshead, Sunderland and
   North & South Tyne.
   - North Wales: Conwy, Flint, Denbigh & Wrexham. Most panels in the first
   three are in the coastal resort towns, but reasonable rural coverage.
   - North West: recent activity has been around Preston, Blackburn Wigan
   and Chorley.
   - East Midlands: mainly Leics & Notts. Improved & recent imagery for
   Leicester made a huge difference.
   - West Midlands: Warwickshire, Worcestershire & Herefordshire are
   roughly in the 20-30% zone. ALso extending into the South Wales valleys.
   brianboru's detailed mapping in the latter is another good index of rural
   coverage.
   - South Coast: Bournemouth area & Southampton, all at over 50%

More rural areas continue to be challenging: older imagery which is often
difficult to interpret doesn't help. I've experimented in places where
every building is already mapped by stepping through each building, but
still one may only find 20% of the number in FIT.

London and immediately adjacent areas also have relatively little mapped.
Imagery can be a problem, but also finding panels in older and/or larger
housing with more complex roof shapes is hard.

One thing I'm continually amazed at is how many places have buildings
mapped, which is very helpful for this task. However in a couple of places:
Ribble Valley & Leicester - it is clear that better imagery would allow
existing building outlines to be improved, but also that plenty of
buildings have been extended, demolished or replaced. This type of activity
lends itself to combined work using tools such as Tasking Manager or
MapRoulette and might be worth considering in the future for a quarterly
project.

There's still no shortage of places where a lot of panels can be mapped
quickly, although more systematic mapping of a single LA often requires a
couple of passes over imagery.

Looking forward to achieving the next milestones of 200k & 25%.

Jerry

Personally, I'm concentrating on areas adjacent to the existing well-mapped
(50%+) areas with the aim of extending these areas.
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Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-02 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi Robert,
Many thanks for producing that map.
I was able to look at my street and see a blue pin in each of the building 
outlines that I had mapped from aerial imagery, so that gave me a warm, smug 
feeling :)
I too noticed some not-yet-there properties in a nearby development that had 
UPRNs assigned - Not a problem really (IMHO).  There is also one allocated to a 
pond near me; I didn't know that was "addressable"!

However, I am still not clear how best to use the data available, if you can't 
use it to look up the address of the property.  Similarly, I am not sure how a 
data consumer could use the data, if we laboriously edited every property in 
OSM to include a "ref:GB:UPRN=" tag (or similar; other tags are available.).
Sorry not to be able to contribute something more useful... :(
Regards,Peter
 

On Thursday, 2 July 2020, 17:40:51 BST, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm not completely sure if/how we can best make use of the new OS
OpenData (UPRNs, USRNs and related links) in OpenStreetMap, but as a
first step I've set up a quick slippy map with the UPRN locations
shown:

https://osm.mathmos.net/addresses/uprn/ (zoom in to level 16 to show the data)

The UPRN dataset literally just contains the UPRN number and its
coordinates (both OS National Grid and WGS lat/lon). There are some
additional linking datasets that link these ids to other ids (e.g.
USRNs, TOIDs). But no address information is available directly. (You
may be able to get street names by matching to OS Open Roads via TOIDs
though. Coupled with Code-Point Open, you might be able to assign
quite a few postcodes in cases where there's only one unit for a whole
street.)

The UPRN data has already helped me find a mapping error I made
locally though -- it looks like I'd accidentally missed drawing a
house outline from aerial imagery, and also classified a large garage
a few doors down as a house. The two errors cancelled out when the
houses were numbered sequentially, so I didn't notice until now. Today
though I spotted a UPRN marker over some blank space on the map, and
no marker over the mapped house that's probably a garage.

Now a few initial thoughts on the data that I've explored so far:

I believe that the UPRNs are assigned by local authorities, so
conventions may vary from place to place. I don't know who actually
assigns the coordinates (authority or OS). Looking at those for rows
of houses around me, they don't seem to have been automatically given
coordinates from the house footprint, it looks more like someone
manually clicking on a map.

The UPRN dataset should include all addressable properties. It is also
ahead of reality in some places, as it includes locations for houses
on a new development near me that have yet to be built yet. For blocks
of apartments/flats, the UPRN nodes may all have the same coordinates
or may be displaced from each other, possibly in an artificial manner.

Other objects also appear to have UPRNs. Likely things I've noticed so
far include: car parks, post boxes, telephone boxes (even after
they've been removed), electricity sub-stations, roads and recorded
footpaths (the UPRN locations seem to be at one end of the street, so
usually lie at a junction), recreation grounds / play areas,
floodlight poles (around sports pitches), and allotments. There's no
information about the object type in the UPRN data unfortunately.

Anyway, I hope some of this is useful / interesting. I hope to be on
the OSMUK call on Saturday to discuss things further. Best wishes,

Robert.

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[Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-02 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
I'm not completely sure if/how we can best make use of the new OS
OpenData (UPRNs, USRNs and related links) in OpenStreetMap, but as a
first step I've set up a quick slippy map with the UPRN locations
shown:

https://osm.mathmos.net/addresses/uprn/ (zoom in to level 16 to show the data)

The UPRN dataset literally just contains the UPRN number and its
coordinates (both OS National Grid and WGS lat/lon). There are some
additional linking datasets that link these ids to other ids (e.g.
USRNs, TOIDs). But no address information is available directly. (You
may be able to get street names by matching to OS Open Roads via TOIDs
though. Coupled with Code-Point Open, you might be able to assign
quite a few postcodes in cases where there's only one unit for a whole
street.)

The UPRN data has already helped me find a mapping error I made
locally though -- it looks like I'd accidentally missed drawing a
house outline from aerial imagery, and also classified a large garage
a few doors down as a house. The two errors cancelled out when the
houses were numbered sequentially, so I didn't notice until now. Today
though I spotted a UPRN marker over some blank space on the map, and
no marker over the mapped house that's probably a garage.

Now a few initial thoughts on the data that I've explored so far:

I believe that the UPRNs are assigned by local authorities, so
conventions may vary from place to place. I don't know who actually
assigns the coordinates (authority or OS). Looking at those for rows
of houses around me, they don't seem to have been automatically given
coordinates from the house footprint, it looks more like someone
manually clicking on a map.

The UPRN dataset should include all addressable properties. It is also
ahead of reality in some places, as it includes locations for houses
on a new development near me that have yet to be built yet. For blocks
of apartments/flats, the UPRN nodes may all have the same coordinates
or may be displaced from each other, possibly in an artificial manner.

Other objects also appear to have UPRNs. Likely things I've noticed so
far include: car parks, post boxes, telephone boxes (even after
they've been removed), electricity sub-stations, roads and recorded
footpaths (the UPRN locations seem to be at one end of the street, so
usually lie at a junction), recreation grounds / play areas,
floodlight poles (around sports pitches), and allotments. There's no
information about the object type in the UPRN data unfortunately.

Anyway, I hope some of this is useful / interesting. I hope to be on
the OSMUK call on Saturday to discuss things further. Best wishes,

Robert.

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Robert Whittaker
https://osm.mathmos.net/

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Re: [Talk-GB] Virtual meeting: New open data and towards more UK addresses

2020-07-02 Thread Cj Malone
I can't make it for 7:00 pm Saturday, will the discussion be recorded
or notes taken?

Cj



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Re: [Talk-GB] M58 / A49 Link Road Wigan - Open - MAPPED

2020-07-02 Thread Gareth Boyes
Had the same idea and went out on my bike to do the same thing.  Even checked 
the map before I left home to make sure it hadn’t been updated!

Cycleways now surveyed! 

Gareth


Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:09:41 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] M58 / A49 Link Road Wigan - Open - MAPPED
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Hi guys

Went out yesterday with GoPro & Mapillary to survey the new road.

I've updated the map with the new road referenced as A49 as signed. Some 
cycleways need surveying.

The old road I've left as is but will survey it later to get its new 
reference and status - a lot of the signage is incomplete.

I've updated Don Drapers proposed route to reflect reality. Basically it 
is the eastern section between Goose Green and Westward Park which has 
opened, the western section between Goose Green and Orrell interchange 
is still in the planning process - no work on the ground that I could see.

Regards

Tony


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