Re: [Talk-GB] Solar tagging app
Let's officially change over to "direction" then. I've edited the wiki page to reflect that. Best Dan Op di 6 okt. 2020 om 19:40 schreef Jeremy Harris : > > On 06/10/2020 16:44, Russ Garrett wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom/Rooftop_Solar_PV > > One difference I make vs. that is "direction" rather than > "generator:orientation". In iD, at least, you get a nice visual > of the view-angle then. > > I use a point and a module-count. If it's flat, I use "tilted:no" > rather than a direction. > > https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/YLx is my current "look for missing > tags" hunter. Pick your area then hit the Run button. > -- > Cheers, > Jeremy > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Solar tagging app
On 06/10/2020 16:44, Russ Garrett wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom/Rooftop_Solar_PV One difference I make vs. that is "direction" rather than "generator:orientation". In iD, at least, you get a nice visual of the view-angle then. I use a point and a module-count. If it's flat, I use "tilted:no" rather than a direction. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/YLx is my current "look for missing tags" hunter. Pick your area then hit the Run button. -- Cheers, Jeremy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Solar tagging app
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 16:42, Lester Caine wrote: > I've just spent a couple of days working on Vale Park, Evesham and many > of the units have panels on the roofs, so I think that is next on my > list to do ... problem is I've not mapped these before, so what is my > best starting point re adding them. All the info you need is (hopefully) here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom/Rooftop_Solar_PV Cheers, -- Russ Garrett r...@garrett.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Solar tagging app
On 04/10/2020 15:41, Russ Garrett wrote: Once we have panel counts that multiple people have agreed on, I'll batch insert the data into OSM using a new account - I will update this list once that is happening. I've just spent a couple of days working on Vale Park, Evesham and many of the units have panels on the roofs, so I think that is next on my list to do ... problem is I've not mapped these before, so what is my best starting point re adding them. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - https://lsces.uk/wiki/Contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - https://lsces.uk Model Engineers Digital Workshop - https://medw.uk Rainbow Digital Media - https://rainbowdigitalmedia.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Solar tagging app
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 15:41, Russ Garrett wrote: > Once we have panel counts that multiple people have agreed on, I'll > batch insert the data into OSM using a new account - I will update > this list once that is happening. We now have around 1500 nodes with agreed module counts. I've started submitting these to OSM and an example changeset on 20 nodes is here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/92055795 (The "imagery_used: Bing" and "bot: yes" changeset tags will also be added to future changesets.) I will pause for a few hours in case anyone spots any issues with this, but it should be fairly straightforward. I have also added the appropriate wiki page to document these automated edits: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/solartagger Cheers, -- Russ Garrett r...@garrett.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging modal filters and school streets
Would it be worth adding something like traffic_intervention:website to link to the relevant traffic order in The Gazette (an OGL source) or the relevant highway authority's website? On 27/09/2020 00:53, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > Here is the outline proposal: > > """ > The traffic_intervention tag is used to identify locations where roads > have been closed to general traffic for the purpose of preventing > undesirable through traffic. > > The traffic_calming tag covers many use cases where the road is open > but something physical has been added to slow down traffic. Sometimes > however, the local traffic authority goes further and closes a road to > through traffic - traffic_intervention is used to record these > interventions. Mappers should ensure that all normal tags are still > applied to the relevant road segment, traffic_intervention is intended > to be used in addition to existing tags to capture the semantic > meaning. > > traffic_intervention=modal_filter > A modal filter is a road closure that is designed to allow certain > modes of transport through, typically bicycles and pedestrians. It is > intended for short sections of road that used to be open to general > traffic and are no longer. The standard modal filter that allows > cycles should be mapped as follows: > * A way representing the section of road that is closed to general traffic: > highway=cycleway, traffic_intervention=modal_filter, other tags as > necessary, especially including the road name. > * A barrier in the middle of the way representing what is being used > to close the road. For example: > barrier=bollard, foot=yes, bicycle=yes > > traffic_intervention=bus_gate > A bus gate is a short section of road that has been closed to general > traffic but is open to buses, bicycles and pedestrians. It should be > mapped as a bus road would be, but with the additional > traffic_intervention tag. > * A way representing the section of road that is closed to general traffic: > highway=service, bus=yes, bicycle=yes, foot=yes, traffic_intervention=bus_gate > > traffic_intervention=school_street > A school street is a section of road near a school that is closed to > general traffic, often only at certain times of day. The access > restrictions are normally mapped using motor_vehicle:conditional. > Simply use traffic_intervention=school_street to add the additional > semantic meaning. > > Mappers may additionally specify the year, month or full date when the > road was restricted if known: > traffic_intervention:date= > traffic_intervention:date= > traffic_intervention:date= > > """ > > Example modal filter: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/851872727 > Example bus gate: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/851872729 > > What do people think? Should this be put forward to the tagging list? > Would anyone here use this scheme? > > Stephen > > > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 18:20, Stephen Colebourne wrote: >> >> Given we have hundreds of existing and new modal filters* and school >> streets**, I think we could do with having a *high level* tag for them >> that captures the concept. >> >> Currently, these are hard to find as they can be represented in many >> ways. eg. for modal filters: >> - highway=cycleway >> - highwat=footway >> - highway=service/residential with motor_vehicle=no >> - plus potential associated barrier=xxx >> >> School streets are no more than a motor_vehicle:conditional=no @ (xxx) >> which again loses the semantic meaning. >> >> What I'd like is a new tag that captures the high level concept. It >> would be a bit like traffic_calming, but I don't think that adding >> more values to that is appropriate. Any new value would go on the way >> that is no longer open. These are generally verifiable on the ground, >> even for filters that were added in the 1970s. >> >> Unfortunately, I don't have a great name. "traffic_restrictions" is >> taken as is "traffic_control". My best suggestion is >> "traffic_intervention=modal_filter"/"school_street", as they are >> essentially interventions by local government to better manage the >> street space. >> >> Any thoughts? >> Stephen >> >> * a "modal filter" is a place where the road is closed, or made one >> way for the purposes of controlling traffic, such as to stop rat >> running. It is commonly linked to Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs) >> but they have been around for 50 years, and are generally easy to >> spot. >> >> ** a "school street" is a street that is only accessible by residents >> at school drop-off and pick-up time > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Solar tagging app
Nice job Russ. Have/can you add a paragraph to the OSMWiki Renewable Energy in the United Kingdom page please (or the solar-specific page?). - Jez On Mon, 5 Oct 2020, 17:46 Russ Garrett, wrote: > Thanks! We've got about 1000 agreed module counts now, which I'm now > working on batching up and submitting as an edit. > > On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 17:13, Gregory Williams > wrote: > > - A "Are you sure that's a PV system?" option -- I've seen perhaps a > > couple where I'm not sure whether it's actually a PV system. Perhaps a > > check from another imagery source, or a ground survey, could clear > > things up? > > I was originally planning to add multiple "skip" options but I decided > to keep it simple. I have the data on which generators are being > consistently skipped though, so we can potentially go through those > later to try and find nonexistent/mistagged things. > > > - Click twice to measure the orientation (although perhaps more suited > > to using on a computer, rather than a mobile / tablet?) > > Orientation is next on my list when I get a moment (probably not > imminently). It'll likely be a separate task from the module-counting > one. Location is also another task which I could potentially add. > > Russ > > > -- > Russ Garrett > r...@garrett.co.uk > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
