Re: [Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter
In particular, the one in Mapperley (Derbyshire) is also a war memorial, and sadly someone pinched the gates around Christmas. Jerry On 22 August 2018 at 17:27, Philip Barnes wrote: > https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Bi7 > > Looks like will_p is the man. > > Phil (trigpoint) > > > On 22 August 2018 17:22:40 BST, Philip Barnes > wrote: >> >> There is some usage of building=lychgate. >> >> Am thinking a gate where the building intersects the path and a short >> section of tunnel=building_passage. >> >> Phil (trigpoint) >> >> On 22 August 2018 16:55:21 BST, Martin Wynne wrote: >>> >>> Thanks all. >>> >>> In the absence of a an official barrier=lych_gate tag why not use *both* barrier=gate and building=shelter tags, which would describe it? >>> >>> Well, a barrier is a Point, and a building is an Area - the iD editor >>> doesn't let you combine them. This is not the first time I've been >>> confused by this distinction. It seems to me that a lot of things which >>> are nominally points, could just as easily be areas/buildings if you >>> zoom in far enough when editing. For example a telephone kiosk, >>> especially one now used as a village library. Also pylons, masts, etc., >>> which can occupy a considerable area at ground level. >>> >>> In this case I have now created two separate objects - a building as a >>> weather_shelter, with description=lych_gate. And inside it a separate >>> point as barrier = gate on the public right of way (foot path) which >>> runs through it. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Martin. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Talk-GB mailing list >>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>> >>> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Bi7 Looks like will_p is the man. Phil (trigpoint) On 22 August 2018 17:22:40 BST, Philip Barnes wrote: >There is some usage of building=lychgate. > >Am thinking a gate where the building intersects the path and a short >section of tunnel=building_passage. > >Phil (trigpoint) > >On 22 August 2018 16:55:21 BST, Martin Wynne >wrote: >>Thanks all. >> >>> In the absence of a an official barrier=lych_gate tag why not use >>> *both* barrier=gate >>> and building=shelter tags, which would describe it? >> >>Well, a barrier is a Point, and a building is an Area - the iD editor >>doesn't let you combine them. This is not the first time I've been >>confused by this distinction. It seems to me that a lot of things >which >> >>are nominally points, could just as easily be areas/buildings if you >>zoom in far enough when editing. For example a telephone kiosk, >>especially one now used as a village library. Also pylons, masts, >etc., >> >>which can occupy a considerable area at ground level. >> >>In this case I have now created two separate objects - a building as a > >>weather_shelter, with description=lych_gate. And inside it a separate >>point as barrier = gate on the public right of way (foot path) which >>runs through it. >> >>Thanks. >> >>Martin. >> >>___ >>Talk-GB mailing list >>Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > >-- >Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter
There is some usage of building=lychgate. Am thinking a gate where the building intersects the path and a short section of tunnel=building_passage. Phil (trigpoint) On 22 August 2018 16:55:21 BST, Martin Wynne wrote: >Thanks all. > >> In the absence of a an official barrier=lych_gate tag why not use >> *both* barrier=gate >> and building=shelter tags, which would describe it? > >Well, a barrier is a Point, and a building is an Area - the iD editor >doesn't let you combine them. This is not the first time I've been >confused by this distinction. It seems to me that a lot of things which > >are nominally points, could just as easily be areas/buildings if you >zoom in far enough when editing. For example a telephone kiosk, >especially one now used as a village library. Also pylons, masts, etc., > >which can occupy a considerable area at ground level. > >In this case I have now created two separate objects - a building as a >weather_shelter, with description=lych_gate. And inside it a separate >point as barrier = gate on the public right of way (foot path) which >runs through it. > >Thanks. > >Martin. > >___ >Talk-GB mailing list >Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter
Thanks all. In the absence of a an official barrier=lych_gate tag why not use *both* barrier=gate and building=shelter tags, which would describe it? Well, a barrier is a Point, and a building is an Area - the iD editor doesn't let you combine them. This is not the first time I've been confused by this distinction. It seems to me that a lot of things which are nominally points, could just as easily be areas/buildings if you zoom in far enough when editing. For example a telephone kiosk, especially one now used as a village library. Also pylons, masts, etc., which can occupy a considerable area at ground level. In this case I have now created two separate objects - a building as a weather_shelter, with description=lych_gate. And inside it a separate point as barrier = gate on the public right of way (foot path) which runs through it. Thanks. Martin. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter
HI Martin, In the absence of a an official barrier=lych_gate tag why not use *both* barrier=gate and building=shelter tags, which would describe it? Regards, *Paul* On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 15:06, Martin Wynne wrote: > What is the correct tagging for this type of ornate gate often seen at > churchyards? > > https://goo.gl/maps/ffu8iQkbhw52 > > (I'm not mapping from Google, I walked through it yesterday.) > > I've tried barrier=gate and building=shelter, but neither alone seems to > adequately describe it. building=gatehouse seems far too grand. > > Thanks. > > Martin. > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter
beat me to it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lychgate great story about what it is for. On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 15:06 Martin Wynne wrote: > What is the correct tagging for this type of ornate gate often seen at > churchyards? > > https://goo.gl/maps/ffu8iQkbhw52 > > (I'm not mapping from Google, I walked through it yesterday.) > > I've tried barrier=gate and building=shelter, but neither alone seems to > adequately describe it. building=gatehouse seems far too grand. > > Thanks. > > Martin. > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter
Hi "Lych gate" is the general name for these things. I don't know a good tag for it, but there are 62 barrier=lych_gate out there! https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=lych#values Best Dan 2018-08-22 15:06 GMT+01:00 Martin Wynne : > What is the correct tagging for this type of ornate gate often seen at > churchyards? > > https://goo.gl/maps/ffu8iQkbhw52 > > (I'm not mapping from Google, I walked through it yesterday.) > > I've tried barrier=gate and building=shelter, but neither alone seems to > adequately describe it. building=gatehouse seems far too grand. > > Thanks. > > Martin. > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter
What is the correct tagging for this type of ornate gate often seen at churchyards? https://goo.gl/maps/ffu8iQkbhw52 (I'm not mapping from Google, I walked through it yesterday.) I've tried barrier=gate and building=shelter, but neither alone seems to adequately describe it. building=gatehouse seems far too grand. Thanks. Martin. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
