Re: [Talk-GB] How to Fix a "Fix-Me"
Looks like the fixme was added to the end node of that road when it was first created, and then the person who added the loop probably didn't realise it was there so it remained. If you look at the node history and the changeset where it was created, you can see the loop being added and the fixme staying on the node: https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=52127592 In case you're not aware, you can use tools like Keepright to locate fixme tags, and then try to fix the problem or even remove the tag if you're sure there's no issue: https://www.keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=14=52.03865=-0.71392=B0T=0%2C170_ign=1_tmpign=1 Personally, for things that need a survey I prefer using OSM notes as they are accessible on osm.org so you don't need a QA tool to check if there's something worth surveying in your area when out and about. On 31/07/2019 18:42, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: If this is not the correct place / route to seek assistance with this issue, please advise me where to go. I see that, on a new housing estate near me, there are a number of "Fix Me" tags on highway=residential, which I would like to fix. The tags all say, "noexit? turning_circle? stub?" These are all streets that link to only one other highway, mostly highway=tertiary (i.e. they are cul de sacs / dead ends). Where the highway=residential is mapped as a single line, I can see that it would be sensible to mark whether there is a turning circle, or turning loop, at the end and, if there is no exit by vehicle, bicycle, or on foot, to mark it as "noexit". However, where there is a turning loop, which is already mapped as a looped highway, I don't understand what the "FixMe" is asking for. See, for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5111774622 Acording to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dturning_loop, "Draw a closed highway=* way around the traffic island and connect it to the main road, giving it the same name. If traffic is required to flow in a particular direction around the traffic island, add oneway=yes. This method is preferred for large turning circles, because navigation applications decide whether the user is on- or off-route based on their distance from the roadway. This method also makes it possible to accurately map features inside the loop, such as parking spaces, trees, or a flagpole. If a turning loop has been mapped as a way, do not remap it as a simple node, as that would remove detail from the map." Are these "FixMe"s generated automatically? Can I just delete the "FixMe" in these cases? I would be grateful for any advice. Peter ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] How to Fix a "Fix-Me"
Hi Peter, These very much look like fixmes which got forgotten. They do not show up directly in many editors (and only recently in iD). In this case all the ones you mention look to have been fully resolved by the existing mapping. In that case it's safe just to remove the fixmes, which is good because it stops others thinking this area needs a visit. Obviously not every case is likely to be so clear cut. I suspect many of us leave fixme tags if we are not absolutely sure that they have been resolved: a false positive signal is better than a false negative one. However, with more in-editor QA we may need to be more pro-active in checking for fixmes which are no longer relevant. It's always a good policy if unsure to start a discussion on the changeset where the fixme tags were created. Often fixme tags are somewhat terse. A direct question to the original author may elicit which information they really felt they were lacking at the time. For instance in a case like this I presume aerial imagery with the new roads was not available, or that it only showed the area during construction. If someone walked or cycled through to get GPS tracks they may not have been able to survey many of the nuances of the site. Personally I try and add multiple source tags to give an idea of what information I used. For instance I have recently been adding footpaths which I have seen leading of country roads in Yorkshire & Denbighshire. I know where the path starts, what type of PRoW the path is and roughly where it heads. Additional information I cull from old out-of-copyright maps & aerial images, so the actual true alignment of the path is always an approximation. If someone walks the path, GPS traces become available etc, then the fixme can be removed & the source:geometry tag updated. Regards, Jerry On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 18:43, Peter Neale via Talk-GB < talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > If this is not the correct place / route to seek assistance with this > issue, please advise me where to go. > > I see that, on a new housing estate near me, there are a number of "Fix > Me" tags on highway=residential, which I would like to fix. > > The tags all say, "noexit? turning_circle? stub?" > > These are all streets that link to only one other highway, mostly > highway=tertiary (i.e. they are cul de sacs / dead ends). > > Where the highway=residential is mapped as a single line, I can see that > it would be sensible to mark whether there is a turning circle, or turning > loop, at the end and, if there is no exit by vehicle, bicycle, or on foot, > to mark it as "noexit". > > However, where there is a turning loop, which is already mapped as a > looped highway, I don't understand what the "FixMe" is asking for. See, > for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5111774622 > > Acording to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dturning_loop > , > > "Draw a closed highway=* way around the traffic island and connect it to > the main road, giving it the same name. If traffic is required to flow in a > particular direction around the traffic island, add oneway=yes. This method > is preferred for large turning circles, because navigation applications > decide whether the user is on- or off-route based on their distance from > the roadway. This method also makes it possible to accurately map features > inside the loop, such as parking spaces, trees, or a flagpole. > If a turning loop has been mapped as a way, do not remap it as a simple > node, as that would remove detail from the map." > > Are these "FixMe"s generated automatically? Can I just delete the "FixMe" > in these cases? > > I would be grateful for any advice. > > Peter > > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] How to Fix a "Fix-Me"
If this is not the correct place / route to seek assistance with this issue, please advise me where to go. I see that, on a new housing estate near me, there are a number of "Fix Me" tags on highway=residential, which I would like to fix. The tags all say, "noexit? turning_circle? stub?" These are all streets that link to only one other highway, mostly highway=tertiary (i.e. they are cul de sacs / dead ends). Where the highway=residential is mapped as a single line, I can see that it would be sensible to mark whether there is a turning circle, or turning loop, at the end and, if there is no exit by vehicle, bicycle, or on foot, to mark it as "noexit". However, where there is a turning loop, which is already mapped as a looped highway, I don't understand what the "FixMe" is asking for. See, for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5111774622 Acording to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dturning_loop, "Draw a closed highway=* way around the traffic island and connect it to the main road, giving it the same name. If traffic is required to flow in a particular direction around the traffic island, add oneway=yes. This method is preferred for large turning circles, because navigation applications decide whether the user is on- or off-route based on their distance from the roadway. This method also makes it possible to accurately map features inside the loop, such as parking spaces, trees, or a flagpole.If a turning loop has been mapped as a way, do not remap it as a simple node, as that would remove detail from the map." Are these "FixMe"s generated automatically? Can I just delete the "FixMe" in these cases? I would be grateful for any advice. Peter ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
