Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Henry Bush]

Hello all,

It's been a while since I proposed this. Given that people didn't seem to
think it was a good idea to import all the data, what I'll probably do is
just import in a couple of areas that are personally known to me that I
know are not listed at all on OSM. I'll post here once the areas are in
there so people can take a look.

Cheers,


Henry

On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 at 22:45, David Woolley 
wrote:

> On 17/11/2019 22:37, Henry Bush wrote:
> > I am aware that SSSIs change, so my plan was that my bot would look for
> > an existing entry first, and if it exists, either modify or delete it
> > (if the latter, I'd verify the tags were the same or something first)
>
> Delete and re-add is something that should not be done, as it destroys
> the history of the object.  Generally if you detect a duplicate, you
> should manually check it before doing anything.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[David Woolley]

On 17/11/2019 22:37, Henry Bush wrote:
I am aware that SSSIs change, so my plan was that my bot would look for 
an existing entry first, and if it exists, either modify or delete it 
(if the latter, I'd verify the tags were the same or something first)


Delete and re-add is something that should not be done, as it destroys 
the history of the object.  Generally if you detect a duplicate, you 
should manually check it before doing anything.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Henry Bush]

Thank you for everyone's input, I really appreciate it. This is an
interesting project, but it probably doesn't make sense to take it any
further unless it is going to be feasible and the outcome useful.

Responses to some of Jerry's points:

 * The fact that some are mapped makes me a little sad, as it means that my
searches for "site of special scientific interest" and "sssi" on
openstreetmap.org didn't find any of them. I couldn't even figure out how
to find them from that interface you linked to (which I hadn't seen before,
thanks for that): anyone got suggestions for how I can track them down?
* The protected area wiki indicates that SSSIs should be protection_class
of 4, so that's what I was planning to use
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area
* I am aware that SSSIs change, so my plan was that my bot would look for
an existing entry first, and if it exists, either modify or delete it (if
the latter, I'd verify the tags were the same or something first). Thus it
could be run occasionally (by me or anyone else) to update them. Thus
before I start I would find the existing ones and figure out the best way
to handle each: maybe they could just be modified so that my bot would pick
them up and modify them.
* The reason originally that I wanted to add these to OSM was because I
found a completely un-covered area, and most of it was in a SSSI. I soon
realised that it should be tagged with landuse etc anyway, but still I
think that having this information in OSM would be very valuable. If they
render (I haven't tested that yet), I don't think having them covering
private land should preclude their import: after all, this is information
sourced from the original definition, and if the private land owner
disagrees then they should take it up with NE (I assume).
* I would have thought that SSSIs could be a completely separate area from
other classes of nature reserve, for the very reason that this data has a
clear and precise source, and it is likely to be different from any other
areas that might overlap it. If this is not the case and the SSSI should
(in some cases) be defined by specific tags on other areas, then maybe this
project is not viable.
* From Owen's reply, it sounds like licensing is probably not an issue.
This is certainly good news, as obviously that would knock this proposal on
the head very swiftly. I'll do some research myself, but IANAL, and I doubt
I'll be able to decipher the information. I might email NE and see if they
can give me an answer, but I imagine it would be non-committal.

And Phil's:

* Although the nature reserves may be in OSM, I don't think any are tagged
as SSSIs, which is what I would like to do.
* Cross-border SSSIs are definitely a complicated issue, but one that it is
possible to overcome, I feel. Thank you for bringing it to my attention!

And now I just need to go and put these points in to my wiki page as
potential issues!

Many thanks,


Henry

On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 17:56, SK53  wrote:

> A few things:
>
>-  A number of SSSI's are mapped
>
> 
>as many are co-incident with various types of Nature Reserves, although
>sometimes there are minor differences in boundaries. For instance the SSSI
>at Newhouse Farm National Nature Reserve is smaller than the NNR.
>- SSSIs are not nature reserves, so protected area is correct. A
>designation, protect_class etc should be considered.
>-  As some are already mapped, any import would need to detect
>collisions & potentially do some quite complex processing if the SSSI is
>not coincident with the element currently tagged with that information.
>This needs to documented. I note that at least one SSSI lies within another
>on OSM which is possibly inaccurate, or reflects historical change (merging
>of 2 SSSIs).
>-  Document which transforms are used to convert from OSGB
>co-ordinates. I suspect we have 3 potential ones in use EPSG:27700, OSTN02
>and OSTN15, see this
> (lengthy)
>doc from the OS.
>-  What is the purpose of adding these to OSM? If they get rendered
>and show up on private land which is not accessible this may have
>undesirable consequences. For 90% of all my purposes I only want SSSIs as
>an overlay and find using the native data from NE/SNH/NRW either as a
>separate layer in QGIS or as discrete tables in PostGIS is perfectly fine.
>The major gripe is having to get data from 3 separate sources (it would be
>4 if NI ASSIs were available as open data).
>-  Virtually all of NE (and SNH & NRW) data is created against
>MasterMap and therefore contains OSGB material. I think, but cannot be
>certain, that NE obtained the necessary permissions for this data to be
>freely usable. Owen Boswarva who occasionally contributes to the list 

Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Owen Boswarva]

My view on the licensing question:

Very many geographic datasets published by UK public bodies contain data
derived from MasterMap or other OS products used under the Public Sector
Mapping Agreement. If the public body has published the data under the Open
Government Licence, and includes OS rights in the attribution statement,
then it's reasonable to assume they have obtained the necessary permission
through OS's "Presumption to Publish" process. Users don't have to confirm
that with OS themselves.

For more discussion on this point see the recent High Court judgment in 77m
Ltd vs Ordnance Survey, from paragraph 255:
https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2019/3007.html

Owen


On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 17:56, SK53  wrote:

A few things:
>
>-  A number of SSSI's are mapped
>
> 
>as many are co-incident with various types of Nature Reserves, although
>sometimes there are minor differences in boundaries. For instance the SSSI
>at Newhouse Farm National Nature Reserve is smaller than the NNR.
>- SSSIs are not nature reserves, so protected area is correct. A
>designation, protect_class etc should be considered.
>-  As some are already mapped, any import would need to detect
>collisions & potentially do some quite complex processing if the SSSI is
>not coincident with the element currently tagged with that information.
>This needs to documented. I note that at least one SSSI lies within another
>on OSM which is possibly inaccurate, or reflects historical change (merging
>of 2 SSSIs).
>-  Document which transforms are used to convert from OSGB
>co-ordinates. I suspect we have 3 potential ones in use EPSG:27700, OSTN02
>and OSTN15, see this
> (lengthy)
>doc from the OS.
>-  What is the purpose of adding these to OSM? If they get rendered
>and show up on private land which is not accessible this may have
>undesirable consequences. For 90% of all my purposes I only want SSSIs as
>an overlay and find using the native data from NE/SNH/NRW either as a
>separate layer in QGIS or as discrete tables in PostGIS is perfectly fine.
>The major gripe is having to get data from 3 separate sources (it would be
>4 if NI ASSIs were available as open data).
>-  Virtually all of NE (and SNH & NRW) data is created against
>MasterMap and therefore contains OSGB material. I think, but cannot be
>certain, that NE obtained the necessary permissions for this data to be
>freely usable. Owen Boswarva who occasionally contributes to the list may
>know the actual position rather better than me. To date I have relied on
>personal knowledge or survey for things like NNRs and LNRs rather than
>consulting the NE shape files. (There's a reasonable write-up on Rowmaps as
>to how this pertains to footpath data and the PSMA, but, again, I'm not
>sure under what type of agreement NE licences OSGB dat)
>-  SSSIs change (although perhaps not as much as nature reserves), the
>most notorious being the dunes at Menie: if data are imported there needs
>to be some plan w.r.t. maintenance.
>
> Jerry
>
> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 16:34, Henry Bush 
> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm, I see. I'll dig further into the licensing side of things before I
>> go any further.
>>
>> Thanks for the pointers!
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, 16:28 Chris Hill,  wrote:
>>
>>> I think there may be a problem here. The web page describing the data
>>> says "© Natural England copyright. Contains Ordnance Survey data". Many
>>> public bodies suffer from the viral OS copyright problem, where the data is
>>> based on OS mapping data and OS have claimed copyright over the geodata
>>> element of such data in the past.
>>>
>>> You need to be sure this is not the case before you use any of these
>>> datasets in OSM.
>>>
>>> --
>>> cheers
>>> Chris Hill (chillly)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16/11/2019 15:30, Henry Bush wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, yes, the source of the data is the Natural England API:
>>>
>>> https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80
>>>
>>> https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80_0/
>>>
>>> The data is freely usable, so there shouldn't be any licensing issues.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 15:24, Philip Barnes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 What is the source of the data you are planning to import?

 Remember wikipedia is not a useable source under OSM licensing terms.

 Phil (trigpoint)


 On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 15:12 +, Henry Bush wrote:
 > Hello all,
 >
 > (I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports mailing lists)
 >
 > This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about importing the data about
 > UK SSSI areas into openstreetmap.
 > 

Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[SK53]

A few things:

   -  A number of SSSI's are mapped
   

   as many are co-incident with various types of Nature Reserves, although
   sometimes there are minor differences in boundaries. For instance the SSSI
   at Newhouse Farm National Nature Reserve is smaller than the NNR.
   - SSSIs are not nature reserves, so protected area is correct. A
   designation, protect_class etc should be considered.
   -  As some are already mapped, any import would need to detect
   collisions & potentially do some quite complex processing if the SSSI is
   not coincident with the element currently tagged with that information.
   This needs to documented. I note that at least one SSSI lies within another
   on OSM which is possibly inaccurate, or reflects historical change (merging
   of 2 SSSIs).
   -  Document which transforms are used to convert from OSGB co-ordinates.
   I suspect we have 3 potential ones in use EPSG:27700, OSTN02 and OSTN15, see
   this 
   (lengthy) doc from the OS.
   -  What is the purpose of adding these to OSM? If they get rendered and
   show up on private land which is not accessible this may have undesirable
   consequences. For 90% of all my purposes I only want SSSIs as an overlay
   and find using the native data from NE/SNH/NRW either as a separate layer
   in QGIS or as discrete tables in PostGIS is perfectly fine. The major gripe
   is having to get data from 3 separate sources (it would be 4 if NI ASSIs
   were available as open data).
   -  Virtually all of NE (and SNH & NRW) data is created against MasterMap
   and therefore contains OSGB material. I think, but cannot be certain, that
   NE obtained the necessary permissions for this data to be freely usable.
   Owen Boswarva who occasionally contributes to the list may know the actual
   position rather better than me. To date I have relied on personal knowledge
   or survey for things like NNRs and LNRs rather than consulting the NE shape
   files. (There's a reasonable write-up on Rowmaps as to how this pertains to
   footpath data and the PSMA, but, again, I'm not sure under what type of
   agreement NE licences OSGB dat)
   -  SSSIs change (although perhaps not as much as nature reserves), the
   most notorious being the dunes at Menie: if data are imported there needs
   to be some plan w.r.t. maintenance.

Jerry

On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 16:34, Henry Bush 
wrote:

> Hmmm, I see. I'll dig further into the licensing side of things before I
> go any further.
>
> Thanks for the pointers!
>
> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, 16:28 Chris Hill,  wrote:
>
>> I think there may be a problem here. The web page describing the data
>> says "© Natural England copyright. Contains Ordnance Survey data". Many
>> public bodies suffer from the viral OS copyright problem, where the data is
>> based on OS mapping data and OS have claimed copyright over the geodata
>> element of such data in the past.
>>
>> You need to be sure this is not the case before you use any of these
>> datasets in OSM.
>>
>> --
>> cheers
>> Chris Hill (chillly)
>>
>>
>> On 16/11/2019 15:30, Henry Bush wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, yes, the source of the data is the Natural England API:
>>
>> https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80
>>
>> https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80_0/
>>
>> The data is freely usable, so there shouldn't be any licensing issues.
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 15:24, Philip Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>> What is the source of the data you are planning to import?
>>>
>>> Remember wikipedia is not a useable source under OSM licensing terms.
>>>
>>> Phil (trigpoint)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 15:12 +, Henry Bush wrote:
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> > (I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports mailing lists)
>>> >
>>> > This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about importing the data about
>>> > UK SSSI areas into openstreetmap.
>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Special_Scientific_Interest
>>> >
>>> > I've had a quick look at a few, and none of them seemed to be marked
>>> > on the map. If I go ahead with the import, I'd do a much more
>>> > thorough investigation first. This mail is simply a prompt for
>>> > discussion as to whether people think it's a good idea.
>>> >
>>> > At the moment I'm still in the research phase. I've started
>>> > collecting related links on a wiki page:
>>> >
>>> >   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spookypeanut/SSSIBot
>>> >
>>> > NB: this page is really just bookmarks for me at this stage. If I go
>>> > ahead I'll make a proper, more informative page.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Philip Barnes]

On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 16:32 +, Henry Bush wrote:
> Hmmm, I see. I'll dig further into the licensing side of things
> before I go any further.
> Thanks for the pointers!

Also, once copyright issues are overcome, you will need to ensure that
any import merges data sensibly with existing objects.
A quick look at the data, and most of the local ones are in OSM
although a few I had not realised were SSIs and the boundaries mapped
are what is verifiable on the ground.
Also care needs to be taken with cross border SSIs, mapping the English
part as a separate object would not make sense, nobody thinks in those
terms and signage/leaflets consider it as a single entity.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/52.9215/-2.7651 
id="-x-evo-selection-start-marker">
Phil (trigpoint)



> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, 16:28 Chris Hill,  wrote:
> >   
> > 
> >   
> >   
> > I think there may be a problem here. The web page describing
> > the
> >   data says "© Natural England copyright. Contains Ordnance
> > Survey
> >   data". Many public bodies suffer from the viral OS copyright
> >   problem, where the data is based on OS mapping data and OS
> > have
> >   claimed copyright over the geodata element of such data in
> > the
> >   past.
> > You need to be sure this is not the case before you use any of
> >   these datasets in OSM.
> > -- cheersChris Hill (chillly)
> > 
> > On 16/11/2019 15:30, Henry Bush wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >   
> > >   Sorry, yes, the source of the data is the Natural
> > > England API: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80_0/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The data is freely usable, so there shouldn't be any
> > >   licensing issues.
> > >   
> > >   
> > > 
> > >   
> > > On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 15:24,
> > >   Philip Barnes  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > What
> > > >   is the source of the data you are planning to import?
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   Remember wikipedia is not a useable source under OSM
> > > > licensing
> > > >   terms.
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   Phil (trigpoint)
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 15:12 +, Henry Bush wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >   > Hello all,
> > > > 
> > > >   > 
> > > > 
> > > >   > (I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports
> > > > mailing
> > > >   lists)
> > > > 
> > > >   > 
> > > > 
> > > >   > This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about
> > > > importing the
> > > >   data about
> > > > 
> > > >   > UK SSSI areas into openstreetmap. 
> > > > 
> > > >   > 
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Special_Scientific_Interest
> > > > 
> > > >   > 
> > > > 
> > > >   > I've had a quick look at a few, and none of them
> > > > seemed
> > > >   to be marked
> > > > 
> > > >   > on the map. If I go ahead with the import, I'd do a
> > > > much
> > > >   more
> > > > 
> > > >   > thorough investigation first. This mail is simply a
> > > >   prompt for
> > > > 
> > > >   > discussion as to whether people think it's a good
> > > > idea.
> > > > 
> > > >   > 
> > > > 
> > > >   > At the moment I'm still in the research phase. I've
> > > >   started
> > > > 
> > > >   > collecting related links on a wiki page:
> > > > 
> > > >   > 
> > > > 
> > > >   >   
> > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spookypeanut/SSSIBot
> > > > 
> > > >   > 
> > > > 
> > > >   > NB: this page is really just bookmarks for me at
> > > > this
> > > >   stage. If I go
> > > > 
> > > >   > ahead I'll make a proper, more informative page.
> > > > 
> > > >   > 
> > > > 
> > > >   > Cheers,
> > > > 
> > > >   > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Henry Bush]

Hmmm, I see. I'll dig further into the licensing side of things before I go
any further.

Thanks for the pointers!

On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, 16:28 Chris Hill,  wrote:

> I think there may be a problem here. The web page describing the data says
> "© Natural England copyright. Contains Ordnance Survey data". Many public
> bodies suffer from the viral OS copyright problem, where the data is based
> on OS mapping data and OS have claimed copyright over the geodata element
> of such data in the past.
>
> You need to be sure this is not the case before you use any of these
> datasets in OSM.
>
> --
> cheers
> Chris Hill (chillly)
>
>
> On 16/11/2019 15:30, Henry Bush wrote:
>
> Sorry, yes, the source of the data is the Natural England API:
>
> https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80
>
> https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80_0/
>
> The data is freely usable, so there shouldn't be any licensing issues.
>
> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 15:24, Philip Barnes  wrote:
>
>> What is the source of the data you are planning to import?
>>
>> Remember wikipedia is not a useable source under OSM licensing terms.
>>
>> Phil (trigpoint)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 15:12 +, Henry Bush wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > (I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports mailing lists)
>> >
>> > This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about importing the data about
>> > UK SSSI areas into openstreetmap.
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Special_Scientific_Interest
>> >
>> > I've had a quick look at a few, and none of them seemed to be marked
>> > on the map. If I go ahead with the import, I'd do a much more
>> > thorough investigation first. This mail is simply a prompt for
>> > discussion as to whether people think it's a good idea.
>> >
>> > At the moment I'm still in the research phase. I've started
>> > collecting related links on a wiki page:
>> >
>> >   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spookypeanut/SSSIBot
>> >
>> > NB: this page is really just bookmarks for me at this stage. If I go
>> > ahead I'll make a proper, more informative page.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Chris Hill]

I think there may be a problem here. The web page describing the data 
says "© Natural England copyright. Contains Ordnance Survey data". Many 
public bodies suffer from the viral OS copyright problem, where the data 
is based on OS mapping data and OS have claimed copyright over the 
geodata element of such data in the past.


You need to be sure this is not the case before you use any of these 
datasets in OSM.


--
cheers
Chris Hill (chillly)

On 16/11/2019 15:30, Henry Bush wrote:

Sorry, yes, the source of the data is the Natural England API:

https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80
https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80_0/

The data is freely usable, so there shouldn't be any licensing issues.

On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 15:24, Philip Barnes > wrote:


What is the source of the data you are planning to import?

Remember wikipedia is not a useable source under OSM licensing terms.

Phil (trigpoint)


On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 15:12 +, Henry Bush wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> (I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports mailing lists)
>
> This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about importing the data about
> UK SSSI areas into openstreetmap.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Special_Scientific_Interest
>
> I've had a quick look at a few, and none of them seemed to be marked
> on the map. If I go ahead with the import, I'd do a much more
> thorough investigation first. This mail is simply a prompt for
> discussion as to whether people think it's a good idea.
>
> At the moment I'm still in the research phase. I've started
> collecting related links on a wiki page:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spookypeanut/SSSIBot
>
> NB: this page is really just bookmarks for me at this stage. If I go
> ahead I'll make a proper, more informative page.
>
> Cheers,
> 



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Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Dan S]

You need to be a little bit clearer about the licensing, to avoid
anyone getting shocked! "Freely usable" could mean many things... The
arcgis page says the data are under the Open Government Licence.

Cheers
Dan


Op za 16 nov. 2019 om 15:31 schreef Henry Bush
:
>
> Sorry, yes, the source of the data is the Natural England API:
>
> https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80
> https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80_0/
>
> The data is freely usable, so there shouldn't be any licensing issues.
>
> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 15:24, Philip Barnes  wrote:
>>
>> What is the source of the data you are planning to import?
>>
>> Remember wikipedia is not a useable source under OSM licensing terms.
>>
>> Phil (trigpoint)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 15:12 +, Henry Bush wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > (I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports mailing lists)
>> >
>> > This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about importing the data about
>> > UK SSSI areas into openstreetmap.
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Special_Scientific_Interest
>> >
>> > I've had a quick look at a few, and none of them seemed to be marked
>> > on the map. If I go ahead with the import, I'd do a much more
>> > thorough investigation first. This mail is simply a prompt for
>> > discussion as to whether people think it's a good idea.
>> >
>> > At the moment I'm still in the research phase. I've started
>> > collecting related links on a wiki page:
>> >
>> >   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spookypeanut/SSSIBot
>> >
>> > NB: this page is really just bookmarks for me at this stage. If I go
>> > ahead I'll make a proper, more informative page.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >
>> > Henry
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Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Henry Bush]

Sorry, yes, the source of the data is the Natural England API:

https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80
https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80_0/

The data is freely usable, so there shouldn't be any licensing issues.

On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 15:24, Philip Barnes  wrote:

> What is the source of the data you are planning to import?
>
> Remember wikipedia is not a useable source under OSM licensing terms.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
>
> On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 15:12 +, Henry Bush wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > (I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports mailing lists)
> >
> > This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about importing the data about
> > UK SSSI areas into openstreetmap.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Special_Scientific_Interest
> >
> > I've had a quick look at a few, and none of them seemed to be marked
> > on the map. If I go ahead with the import, I'd do a much more
> > thorough investigation first. This mail is simply a prompt for
> > discussion as to whether people think it's a good idea.
> >
> > At the moment I'm still in the research phase. I've started
> > collecting related links on a wiki page:
> >
> >   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spookypeanut/SSSIBot
> >
> > NB: this page is really just bookmarks for me at this stage. If I go
> > ahead I'll make a proper, more informative page.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Henry
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Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Philip Barnes]

What is the source of the data you are planning to import?

Remember wikipedia is not a useable source under OSM licensing terms.

Phil (trigpoint)


On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 15:12 +, Henry Bush wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> (I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports mailing lists)
> 
> This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about importing the data about
> UK SSSI areas into openstreetmap. 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Special_Scientific_Interest
> 
> I've had a quick look at a few, and none of them seemed to be marked
> on the map. If I go ahead with the import, I'd do a much more
> thorough investigation first. This mail is simply a prompt for
> discussion as to whether people think it's a good idea.
> 
> At the moment I'm still in the research phase. I've started
> collecting related links on a wiki page:
> 
>   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spookypeanut/SSSIBot
> 
> NB: this page is really just bookmarks for me at this stage. If I go
> ahead I'll make a proper, more informative page.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Henry
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[Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Henry Bush]

Hello all,

(I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports mailing lists)

This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about importing the data about UK
SSSI areas into openstreetmap.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Special_Scientific_Interest

I've had a quick look at a few, and none of them seemed to be marked on the
map. If I go ahead with the import, I'd do a much more thorough
investigation first. This mail is simply a prompt for discussion as to
whether people think it's a good idea.

At the moment I'm still in the research phase. I've started collecting
related links on a wiki page:

  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spookypeanut/SSSIBot

NB: this page is really just bookmarks for me at this stage. If I go ahead
I'll make a proper, more informative page.

Cheers,


Henry
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