Re: [Talk-GB] Local Wildlife Sites

2020-07-21 Thread SK53
Yes, am reasonably familiar with ones in Notts & Derbys. A friend led the
initial survey work (Phase 1 habitat) back in the 1970s, other friends were
surveyors.

Some LAs do have these as data on their GIS systems (Nottingham &
Nottinghamshire for instance), others have lists (RBWM). I understand that
in some cases they are reluctant to publish because doing so would alert
less-sympathetic landowners who may then destroy the sites. I have always
imagined that the data could be obtainable under EIR, but as I'm aware of
these sensitivities I havent tried. Some Wildlife Trusts have enough
resources to get round the LWS in their area every few years.

They are a statutory designation, but confer no protections. A significant
proportion of remaining true meadows are LWS rather than SSSI (largely
because Natural England have not had resources to perform designation).
They vary between protected verges, local nature reserves and private land.
I suspect the only tag which is truly viable on OSM is designation. We
certainly should not map them in such a way that implies they are nature
reserves.

Jerry

On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 15:53, Jez Nicholson  wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience with
> https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/local-wildlife-sites ?
>
> I've had an inquiry about including Brighton & Hove LWSes on OSM.
>
> - Jez
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Re: [Talk-GB] Local Wildlife Sites

2020-07-20 Thread Jez Nicholson
ooo! nice detail.

The 'Local Wildlife Sites' seem to be more wide-ranging than the Wildlife
Trust's own sites, they appear to be 'important' green areas throughout the
area.
https://data.gov.uk/search?q=Local+Wildlife+Sites%5Bpublisher%5D=%5Btopic%5D=%5Bformat%5D==best
lists
a number of areas. They may be a synonym for SINCS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Nature_Conservation_Interest

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 5:03 PM Chris Hill  wrote:

>
> On 20/07/2020 15:52, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> > Does anyone have any experience with
> > https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/local-wildlife-sites ?
> >
> > I've had an inquiry about including Brighton & Hove LWSes on OSM.
> >
> >
> I am a member of Yorkshire Wildlife Trust so I had a conversation with
> them about their reserves a few years ago. They sent me some data. It
> was entirely based on OS data, so I couldn't use any of it in OSM. I
> surveyed North Cave wetlands, a large reserve close to me. You can see
> my efforts here https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.7846/-0.6634
> Most of the names are from my own knowledge.
>
> I think each trust is independent, with a loose affiliation to the
> national group.
>
> I've added one or two smaller reserves in outline that I have visites
> with a few lakes and woods as you would expect. It can sometimes be hard
> to know the extent of a reserve just from aerial imagery and surveys can
> be awkward because the sites usually want people to stay on paths to
> avoid wildlife disturbance.
>
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> cheers
> Chris Hill (chillly)
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Re: [Talk-GB] Local Wildlife Sites

2020-07-20 Thread Chris Hill


On 20/07/2020 15:52, Jez Nicholson wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with 
https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/local-wildlife-sitesĀ ?


I've had an inquiry about including Brighton & Hove LWSes on OSM.


I am a member of Yorkshire Wildlife Trust so I had a conversation with 
them about their reserves a few years ago. They sent me some data. It 
was entirely based on OS data, so I couldn't use any of it in OSM. I 
surveyed North Cave wetlands, a large reserve close to me. You can see 
my efforts here https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.7846/-0.6634 
Most of the names are from my own knowledge.


I think each trust is independent, with a loose affiliation to the 
national group.


I've added one or two smaller reserves in outline that I have visites 
with a few lakes and woods as you would expect. It can sometimes be hard 
to know the extent of a reserve just from aerial imagery and surveys can 
be awkward because the sites usually want people to stay on paths to 
avoid wildlife disturbance.


--
cheers
Chris Hill (chillly)


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[Talk-GB] Local Wildlife Sites

2020-07-20 Thread Jez Nicholson
Does anyone have any experience with
https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/local-wildlife-sites ?

I've had an inquiry about including Brighton & Hove LWSes on OSM.

- Jez
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