Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-04 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On 04/09/2019, Edward Catmur  wrote:

> Adding a natural=bare_rock  tag to reflect the exposed bedrock underneath
> (yes, chalk is a rock) would seem acceptable

The Margate memorial is painted conrete.

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Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Warin 


On 4/9/19 9:16 am, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote:
The Uffington White Horse is tagged as man_made=geoglyph, which seems 
apposite and is documented (if underused).


+1. Not all on hills, small .. or historic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marree_Man



Adding a natural=bare_rock  tag to reflect the exposed bedrock 
underneath (yes, chalk is a rock) would seem acceptable, and would 
have the definite bonus of getting the shape to render.


Otherwise, a hill figure can be variously a tourist attraction, a 
memorial, a monument, an archaeological site - it would depend on the 
specifics of when, by whom and for what purpose it was initially 
constructed.


On Tue, 3 Sep 2019, 23:53 Andy Mabbett, > wrote:


On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 15:01, Jez Nicholson
mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Not sure that there is proper consensus on how to map
> drawn things, like the Cerne Abbas Giant

I've started a discussion, specifically about hill figures, on the
tagging list:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-September/047860.html

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Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Warin 


On 4/9/19 7:58 am, Andy Mabbett wrote:

On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 17:03, Dan S  wrote:

Op di 3 sep. 2019 om 16:06 schreef Michael Booth :

Even though the wiki doesn't say you can use historic=memorial on a
relation, I would tag it as that.

Done; though "historic" seems inapt.


The "type=*" tag on a relation is usually used to
indicate what sort of relationship is represented, e.g.
type=multipolygon.

Done, but JOSM protested that "the multipolygon is not closed"

Thanks, both - what do others think?



To get around the 'multipolygon is not closed' use the fact that the concrete 
has a width .. looks about 0.5 metres and map the outline area. Yes it is micro 
mapping ... and could be better with a width tag but it will close 
multipolygon. The other relation is a site relation ... not common and may not 
be rendered.


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Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Edward Catmur via Talk-GB 
The Uffington White Horse is tagged as man_made=geoglyph, which seems
apposite and is documented (if underused).

Adding a natural=bare_rock  tag to reflect the exposed bedrock underneath
(yes, chalk is a rock) would seem acceptable, and would have the definite
bonus of getting the shape to render.

Otherwise, a hill figure can be variously a tourist attraction, a memorial,
a monument, an archaeological site - it would depend on the specifics of
when, by whom and for what purpose it was initially constructed.

On Tue, 3 Sep 2019, 23:53 Andy Mabbett,  wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 15:01, Jez Nicholson 
> wrote:
>
> > Not sure that there is proper consensus on how to map
> > drawn things, like the Cerne Abbas Giant
>
> I've started a discussion, specifically about hill figures, on the tagging
> list:
>
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-September/047860.html
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 15:01, Jez Nicholson  wrote:

> Not sure that there is proper consensus on how to map
> drawn things, like the Cerne Abbas Giant

I've started a discussion, specifically about hill figures, on the tagging list:

  https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-September/047860.html

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Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 17:03, Dan S  wrote:
> Op di 3 sep. 2019 om 16:06 schreef Michael Booth :

> > Even though the wiki doesn't say you can use historic=memorial on a
> > relation, I would tag it as that.

Done; though "historic" seems inapt.

> The "type=*" tag on a relation is usually used to
> indicate what sort of relationship is represented, e.g.
> type=multipolygon.

Done, but JOSM protested that "the multipolygon is not closed"

Thanks, both - what do others think?

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Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Dan S 
Ah, good spot. The "type=*" tag on a relation is usually used to
indicate what sort of relationship is represented, e.g.
type=multipolygon. The latter might in fact be a reasonable thing to
do here?

Best
Dan

Op di 3 sep. 2019 om 16:06 schreef Michael Booth :
>
> Tagging it as type=memorial and memorial=yes doesn't seem very useful to me.
>
> Even though the wiki doesn't say you can use historic=memorial on a
> relation, I would tag it as that. It would be similar to this one nearby
> [1], would still get rendered and be recognised by data consumers. Or
> failing that, just add it as a node.
>
> [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7838824
>
> On 03/09/2019 11:40, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > I've just added the RNLI Dunkirk Memorial at Margate to the map:
> >
> >https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9995162
> >
> > but I wasn't sure how to best tag the relation, and the three
> > connected ways that comprise it.
> >
> > It's an area of white-painted conrete, in the shape of an anchor.
> >
> > Any suggestions for improvement?
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Michael Booth 

Tagging it as type=memorial and memorial=yes doesn't seem very useful to me.

Even though the wiki doesn't say you can use historic=memorial on a 
relation, I would tag it as that. It would be similar to this one nearby 
[1], would still get rendered and be recognised by data consumers. Or 
failing that, just add it as a node.


[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7838824

On 03/09/2019 11:40, Andy Mabbett wrote:

I've just added the RNLI Dunkirk Memorial at Margate to the map:

   https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9995162

but I wasn't sure how to best tag the relation, and the three
connected ways that comprise it.

It's an area of white-painted conrete, in the shape of an anchor.

Any suggestions for improvement?




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Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Jez Nicholson 
Seems reasonable. Not sure that there is proper consensus on how to map
drawn things, like the Cerne Abbas Giant
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9425037

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:43 AM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> I've just added the RNLI Dunkirk Memorial at Margate to the map:
>
>   https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9995162
>
> but I wasn't sure how to best tag the relation, and the three
> connected ways that comprise it.
>
> It's an area of white-painted conrete, in the shape of an anchor.
>
> Any suggestions for improvement?
>
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[Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Andy Mabbett 
I've just added the RNLI Dunkirk Memorial at Margate to the map:

  https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9995162

but I wasn't sure how to best tag the relation, and the three
connected ways that comprise it.

It's an area of white-painted conrete, in the shape of an anchor.

Any suggestions for improvement?

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