Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Jez Nicholson]

Hi Michael,

The issue is that Golf Drive Recycling Point is not a [single] recycling
container, it is a group of recycling containers.

Talking to a waste expert today I'm told an industry term is "bring site"
as anybody may bring their recycling hereas opposed to a Household
Waste Recycling Centre where only local residents may.

Regards,
  Jez

On Sat, 28 Nov 2020, 13:10 Michael Booth,  wrote:

> Jez, I'm confused :)
>
> Your first email recognised the difference between a recycling centre
> (i.e. a council-run 'tip' / 'dump' that you can normally drive into) and a
> recycling point (i.e. one with containers, found in supermarket car parks
> etc.).
>
> So I'm really not sure why you would tag the "Golf Drive Recycling Point"
> as recycling_type=centre when it is clearly recycling_type=container?
> There's really only two options in the OSM data, and photos on the wiki
> page also make it clear which is which:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type
>
> Examples in Aberdeen - centre: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/116883204
> and container: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/464736817
>
> On 27/11/2020 09:40, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>
> Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use itmy fundamental reason
> for it not being a 'centre' was size, but a Recycling Point _could_ be seen
> as a mini Recycling Centre that only accepts recyclable waste. You can see
> a perimeter boundary by the concrete area it is set on. I could go with a
> site relation but you can't physically carry out other activities between
> the constituent objects (unlike a wind farm).
>
> I will try with 'centre' and including 'Recycling Point' in the name.
>
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 08:58 Dan S,  wrote:
>
>> Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson <
>> jez.nichol...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a
>>> while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling
>>> container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes.
>>>
>>> Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling Point
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg
>>> featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="container" which
>>> accept different items including
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145 glass,
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151 cans, cardboard, paper,
>>> plastic bottles, and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142 a
>>> clothes bank.
>>>
>>> The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling Point".
>>> There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580 as "amenity"="recycling" +
>>> "recycling_type"="point"
>>>
>>> I can only really see containers or centres in
>>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values but
>>> this place is neither.
>>>
>>> Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"? It
>>> seems like the UK term for it.
>>>
>>>
>> Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to misunderstanding, when used
>> as a value here in OSM. I know we tend to say "recycling point", but that
>> doesn't mean that we say "point". "I'll just go to the point".
>>
>> I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g. a word we already
>> use for some other type of feature.
>>
>> What is the fundamental reason this is not a recycling_type=centre? Is it
>> the size? (If so, no problem - use "centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is it
>> the fact that it's unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only or
>> supervised=no.) Is it that there's no perimeter boundary?
>>
>> Best
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris  wrote:
>>>
 On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
 > Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point
 in OSM?
 > Have you seen/used anything else?

 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type>

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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On Sat, 28 Nov 2020 at 12:35, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
 wrote:
> 28 Nov 2020, 10:48 by robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com:
>
> I guess the problem is that recycling_type=container is being used
> both for individual containers and for mini sites with a group of
> containers.
>
> Is it really a problem?

It is if you want to be able to micro-map such a site and the
individual containers within it.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Michael Booth]

Jez, I'm confused :)

Your first email recognised the difference between a recycling centre 
(i.e. a council-run 'tip' / 'dump' that you can normally drive into) and 
a recycling point (i.e. one with containers, found in supermarket car 
parks etc.).


So I'm really not sure why you would tag the "Golf Drive Recycling 
Point" as recycling_type=centre when it is clearly 
recycling_type=container? There's really only two options in the OSM 
data, and photos on the wiki page also make it clear which is which: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type


Examples in Aberdeen - centre: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/116883204 and container: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/464736817


On 27/11/2020 09:40, Jez Nicholson wrote:
Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use itmy fundamental 
reason for it not being a 'centre' was size, but a Recycling Point 
_could_ be seen as a mini Recycling Centre that only accepts 
recyclable waste. You can see a perimeter boundary by the concrete 
area it is set on. I could go with a site relation but you can't 
physically carry out other activities between the constituent objects 
(unlike a wind farm).


I will try with 'centre' and including 'Recycling Point' in the name.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 08:58 Dan S, > wrote:


Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson
mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com>>:

Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I
enquired a while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a
single recycling container == a single node. A group of
containers == a group of nodes.

Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling
Point
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg

featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" +
"recycling_type"="container" which accept different items
including https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145
 glass,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151
 cans,
cardboard, paper, plastic bottles, and
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142
 a clothes bank.

The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling
Point". There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580
 as
"amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"

I can only really see containers or centres in
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values

but this place is neither.

Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" +
"recycling_type"="point"? It seems like the UK term for it.


Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to misunderstanding,
when used as a value here in OSM. I know we tend to say "recycling
point", but that doesn't mean that we say "point". "I'll just go
to the point".

I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g. a word we
already use for some other type of feature.

What is the fundamental reason this is not a
recycling_type=centre? Is it the size? (If so, no problem - use
"centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is it the fact that it's
unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only or supervised=no.) Is it
that there's no perimeter boundary?

Best
Dan

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris mailto:j...@wizmail.org>> wrote:

On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a
Recycling Point in OSM?
> Have you seen/used anything else?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type
>

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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB]

28 Nov 2020, 10:48 by robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com:

> I guess the problem is that recycling_type=container is being used
> both for individual containers and for mini sites with a group of
> containers.
>
Is it really a problem?
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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 09:42, Jez Nicholson  wrote:
> Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use itmy fundamental reason for 
> it not being a 'centre' was size, but a Recycling Point _could_ be seen as a 
> mini Recycling Centre that only accepts recyclable waste. You can see a 
> perimeter boundary by the concrete area it is set on. I could go with a site 
> relation but you can't physically carry out other activities between the 
> constituent objects (unlike a wind farm).

How about recycling_type=container_site ?

I guess the problem is that recycling_type=container is being used
both for individual containers and for mini sites with a group of
containers. An alternative approach would be to continue to use
recycling_type=container for the site, and have a new tag for
individual containers within such a site. (Then it would be a bit like
mapping individual parking spaces within a car-park.)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Donald Noble]

Personally, I would map a small number of recycling containers as a single
node, tagged with all the types accepted. From my experience, these
containers often get moved around, at least here in Edinburgh, so their
relative positions change depending on which was overflowing last or
something. I am also not sure that it adds significant value knowing how
many containers there are, so a single not should suffice.

Cheers, Donald


On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 13:36, SK53  wrote:

> I must admit to being surprised that we dont have a distinct value:
> recycling points are much commoner throughout Europe than they are in the
> UK (probably because more people live in flats). Windsor & Maidenhead
> withdrew at least some of their points when recycling bins were introduced.
> In Nottingham single containers are relatively common (usually things like
> the red BHF ones, rather than council ones), and single containers with
> multiple ports exist on the University site, as do combined rubbish bins,
> recycling bins.
>
> In Spain and Switzerland something like a recycling point with multiple
> containers will be located within a short distance of most properties (e.g.
> this one
> 
> I added which has at least 4 distinct containers). At least in the past in
> some Swiss communes, these were also co-located with a communal location
> for household rubbish (the one above doesn't appear to have that facility
> now). I presume Poland is similar, but Mateusz can confirm.
>
> It does appear that an additional tag value would be appropriate.
>
> Jerry
>
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 09:42, Jez Nicholson 
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use itmy fundamental reason
>> for it not being a 'centre' was size, but a Recycling Point _could_ be seen
>> as a mini Recycling Centre that only accepts recyclable waste. You can see
>> a perimeter boundary by the concrete area it is set on. I could go with a
>> site relation but you can't physically carry out other activities between
>> the constituent objects (unlike a wind farm).
>>
>> I will try with 'centre' and including 'Recycling Point' in the name.
>>
>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 08:58 Dan S,  wrote:
>>
>>> Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson <
>>> jez.nichol...@gmail.com>:
>>>
 Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a
 while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling
 container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes.

 Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling Point
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg
 featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="container" which
 accept different items including
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145 glass,
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151 cans, cardboard, paper,
 plastic bottles, and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142 a
 clothes bank.

 The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling Point".
 There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580 as "amenity"="recycling" +
 "recycling_type"="point"

 I can only really see containers or centres in
 https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values but
 this place is neither.

 Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"?
 It seems like the UK term for it.


>>> Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to misunderstanding, when used
>>> as a value here in OSM. I know we tend to say "recycling point", but that
>>> doesn't mean that we say "point". "I'll just go to the point".
>>>
>>> I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g. a word we already
>>> use for some other type of feature.
>>>
>>> What is the fundamental reason this is not a recycling_type=centre? Is
>>> it the size? (If so, no problem - use "centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is
>>> it the fact that it's unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only or
>>> supervised=no.) Is it that there's no perimeter boundary?
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris  wrote:

> On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> > Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point
> in OSM?
> > Have you seen/used anything else?
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[SK53]

I must admit to being surprised that we dont have a distinct value:
recycling points are much commoner throughout Europe than they are in the
UK (probably because more people live in flats). Windsor & Maidenhead
withdrew at least some of their points when recycling bins were introduced.
In Nottingham single containers are relatively common (usually things like
the red BHF ones, rather than council ones), and single containers with
multiple ports exist on the University site, as do combined rubbish bins,
recycling bins.

In Spain and Switzerland something like a recycling point with multiple
containers will be located within a short distance of most properties (e.g.
this one
 I
added which has at least 4 distinct containers). At least in the past in
some Swiss communes, these were also co-located with a communal location
for household rubbish (the one above doesn't appear to have that facility
now). I presume Poland is similar, but Mateusz can confirm.

It does appear that an additional tag value would be appropriate.

Jerry

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 09:42, Jez Nicholson  wrote:

> Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use itmy fundamental reason
> for it not being a 'centre' was size, but a Recycling Point _could_ be seen
> as a mini Recycling Centre that only accepts recyclable waste. You can see
> a perimeter boundary by the concrete area it is set on. I could go with a
> site relation but you can't physically carry out other activities between
> the constituent objects (unlike a wind farm).
>
> I will try with 'centre' and including 'Recycling Point' in the name.
>
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 08:58 Dan S,  wrote:
>
>> Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson <
>> jez.nichol...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a
>>> while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling
>>> container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes.
>>>
>>> Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling Point
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg
>>> featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="container" which
>>> accept different items including
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145 glass,
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151 cans, cardboard, paper,
>>> plastic bottles, and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142 a
>>> clothes bank.
>>>
>>> The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling Point".
>>> There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580 as "amenity"="recycling" +
>>> "recycling_type"="point"
>>>
>>> I can only really see containers or centres in
>>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values but
>>> this place is neither.
>>>
>>> Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"? It
>>> seems like the UK term for it.
>>>
>>>
>> Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to misunderstanding, when used
>> as a value here in OSM. I know we tend to say "recycling point", but that
>> doesn't mean that we say "point". "I'll just go to the point".
>>
>> I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g. a word we already
>> use for some other type of feature.
>>
>> What is the fundamental reason this is not a recycling_type=centre? Is it
>> the size? (If so, no problem - use "centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is it
>> the fact that it's unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only or
>> supervised=no.) Is it that there's no perimeter boundary?
>>
>> Best
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris  wrote:
>>>
 On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
 > Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point
 in OSM?
 > Have you seen/used anything else?

 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type>

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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Jez Nicholson]

Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use itmy fundamental reason
for it not being a 'centre' was size, but a Recycling Point _could_ be seen
as a mini Recycling Centre that only accepts recyclable waste. You can see
a perimeter boundary by the concrete area it is set on. I could go with a
site relation but you can't physically carry out other activities between
the constituent objects (unlike a wind farm).

I will try with 'centre' and including 'Recycling Point' in the name.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 08:58 Dan S,  wrote:

> Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson  >:
>
>> Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a
>> while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling
>> container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes.
>>
>> Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling Point
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg
>> featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="container" which
>> accept different items including
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145 glass,
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151 cans, cardboard, paper,
>> plastic bottles, and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142 a
>> clothes bank.
>>
>> The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling Point".
>> There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580 as "amenity"="recycling" +
>> "recycling_type"="point"
>>
>> I can only really see containers or centres in
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values but this
>> place is neither.
>>
>> Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"? It
>> seems like the UK term for it.
>>
>>
> Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to misunderstanding, when used
> as a value here in OSM. I know we tend to say "recycling point", but that
> doesn't mean that we say "point". "I'll just go to the point".
>
> I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g. a word we already use
> for some other type of feature.
>
> What is the fundamental reason this is not a recycling_type=centre? Is it
> the size? (If so, no problem - use "centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is it
> the fact that it's unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only or
> supervised=no.) Is it that there's no perimeter boundary?
>
> Best
> Dan
>
>
>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris  wrote:
>>
>>> On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>>> > Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in
>>> OSM?
>>> > Have you seen/used anything else?
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type>
>>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Dan S]

Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson :

> Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a
> while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling
> container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes.
>
> Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling Point
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg
> featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="container" which
> accept different items including
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145 glass,
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151 cans, cardboard, paper,
> plastic bottles, and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142 a
> clothes bank.
>
> The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling Point".
> There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580 as "amenity"="recycling" +
> "recycling_type"="point"
>
> I can only really see containers or centres in
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values but this
> place is neither.
>
> Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"? It
> seems like the UK term for it.
>
>
Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to misunderstanding, when used as
a value here in OSM. I know we tend to say "recycling point", but that
doesn't mean that we say "point". "I'll just go to the point".

I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g. a word we already use
for some other type of feature.

What is the fundamental reason this is not a recycling_type=centre? Is it
the size? (If so, no problem - use "centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is it
the fact that it's unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only or
supervised=no.) Is it that there's no perimeter boundary?

Best
Dan



> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris  wrote:
>
>> On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>> > Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in
>> OSM?
>> > Have you seen/used anything else?
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type>
>>
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>>Jeremy
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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Jez Nicholson]

Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a
while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling
container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes.

Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling Point
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg
featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="container" which
accept different items including
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145 glass,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151 cans, cardboard, paper,
plastic bottles, and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142 a
clothes bank.

The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling Point".
There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580 as "amenity"="recycling" +
"recycling_type"="point"

I can only really see containers or centres in
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values but this
place is neither.

Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"? It
seems like the UK term for it.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris  wrote:

> On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> > Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in
> OSM?
> > Have you seen/used anything else?
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB]

I always mapped group of containers as one object.

amenity=recycling
recycling:type=container
recycling:paper=yes
recycling:metal=yes
recycling:batteries=yes

for location with three containers, one for paper,
one for metal, one for batteries

Easier to map, process, resurvey...

Nov 26, 2020, 14:50 by jez.nichol...@gmail.com:

> "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling:type"="centre" == Council Tip
> "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling:type"="container" == a single recycling 
> box, so multiple would appear at a Recycling Point
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 1:22 PM Dan S <> danstowell+...@gmail.com 
> > > wrote:
>
>> Hi Jez
>>
>> Is this not it?
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drecycling
>>
>> Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 13:08 schreef Jez Nicholson <>> 
>> jez.nichol...@gmail.com>> >:
>>
>>> I'm planning some work with Household Waste Recycling Centres and Recycling 
>>> Points during the Code The City OSM hack weekend this Sat/Sun (which you 
>>> are very welcome to join >>> 
>>> https://codethecity.org/what-we-do/hack-weekends/code-the-city-21-put-your-city-on-the-map/>>>
>>>   in any capacity you like)
>>>
>>> A Recycling Centre being the local 'tip', see >>> 
>>> https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/find-your-nearest-recycling-centre
>>>
>>> A Recycling Point being a cluster of recycling containers in, say, at the 
>>> end of your local supermarket car park. Often given a name by the Council, 
>>> see >>> 
>>> https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/recycling-points
>>>
>>> Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in OSM? 
>>> Have you seen/used anything else?
>>>
>>> - Jez
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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Jeremy Harris]

On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:

Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in OSM?
Have you seen/used anything else?


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type>

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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[James Derrick]

Hi,

Here's a couple of local examples for reference and comment...


On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:


A Recycling Centre being the local 'tip', see 
https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/find-your-nearest-recycling-centre 



Called a 'Household Waste Recovery Centre' in Northumberland (although 
we still 'go to the tip'!):


https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/858629908

 * amenity=recycling
 * recycling_type=centre


A Recycling Point being a cluster of recycling containers in, say, at 
the end of your local supermarket car park. Often given a name by the 
Council, see 
https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/recycling-points 



Local example for glass bottles (skip with holes, but as you say can be 
more specialised for clothes, shoes, etc.):


https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6538028486

* amenity=recycling
* recycling_type=container


Happy Mapping,


James
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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Nick Allen]

Hi Jez,

Try

amenity=recycling

Regards

Nick
Tallguy

On Thu, 26 Nov 2020, 13:08 Jez Nicholson,  wrote:

> I'm planning some work with Household Waste Recycling Centres and
> Recycling Points during the Code The City OSM hack weekend this Sat/Sun
> (which you are very welcome to join
> https://codethecity.org/what-we-do/hack-weekends/code-the-city-21-put-your-city-on-the-map/
> in any capacity you like)
>
> A Recycling Centre being the local 'tip', see
> https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/find-your-nearest-recycling-centre
>
> A Recycling Point being a cluster of recycling containers in, say, at the
> end of your local supermarket car park. Often given a name by the Council,
> see
> https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/recycling-points
>
> Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in
> OSM? Have you seen/used anything else?
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Jez Nicholson]

"amenity"="recycling" + "recycling:type"="centre" == Council Tip
"amenity"="recycling" + "recycling:type"="container" == a single recycling
box, so multiple would appear at a Recycling Point

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 1:22 PM Dan S  wrote:

> Hi Jez
>
> Is this not it?
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drecycling
>
> Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 13:08 schreef Jez Nicholson  >:
>
>> I'm planning some work with Household Waste Recycling Centres and
>> Recycling Points during the Code The City OSM hack weekend this Sat/Sun
>> (which you are very welcome to join
>> https://codethecity.org/what-we-do/hack-weekends/code-the-city-21-put-your-city-on-the-map/
>> in any capacity you like)
>>
>> A Recycling Centre being the local 'tip', see
>> https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/find-your-nearest-recycling-centre
>>
>> A Recycling Point being a cluster of recycling containers in, say, at the
>> end of your local supermarket car park. Often given a name by the Council,
>> see
>> https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/recycling-points
>>
>> Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in
>> OSM? Have you seen/used anything else?
>>
>> - Jez
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Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Dan S]

Hi Jez

Is this not it?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drecycling

Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 13:08 schreef Jez Nicholson :

> I'm planning some work with Household Waste Recycling Centres and
> Recycling Points during the Code The City OSM hack weekend this Sat/Sun
> (which you are very welcome to join
> https://codethecity.org/what-we-do/hack-weekends/code-the-city-21-put-your-city-on-the-map/
> in any capacity you like)
>
> A Recycling Centre being the local 'tip', see
> https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/find-your-nearest-recycling-centre
>
> A Recycling Point being a cluster of recycling containers in, say, at the
> end of your local supermarket car park. Often given a name by the Council,
> see
> https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/recycling-points
>
> Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in
> OSM? Have you seen/used anything else?
>
> - Jez
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[Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Jez Nicholson]

I'm planning some work with Household Waste Recycling Centres and Recycling
Points during the Code The City OSM hack weekend this Sat/Sun (which you
are very welcome to join
https://codethecity.org/what-we-do/hack-weekends/code-the-city-21-put-your-city-on-the-map/
in any capacity you like)

A Recycling Centre being the local 'tip', see
https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/find-your-nearest-recycling-centre

A Recycling Point being a cluster of recycling containers in, say, at the
end of your local supermarket car park. Often given a name by the Council,
see
https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/bins-and-recycling/recycling-points

Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in OSM?
Have you seen/used anything else?

- Jez
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