Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
So all shopkeepers are liable if they sell a hedge trimmer to someone who then cuts off their fingers? I would be very surprised if that was the case On 28 Jan 2015, at 13:52, Pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: On 28 January 2015 at 12:10, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: Do we need an OSM disclaimer The copyright page does include: Inclusion of data in OpenStreetMap does not imply that the original data provider endorses OpenStreetMap, provides any warranty, or accepts any liability. http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb They would say you made information available to others for the purpose of them using that information, you cannot deny some liability for when people use that information (whether rightly or wrongly) In UK law, if you lend a neighbour your ladder and hedge trimmer, if he cuts his fingers off as he falls from the ladder, you can be held liable for lending him the gear. Basically, on doing the lending you have a duty to assess whether he's capable of using the gear safely. -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via the area's premier website - currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets TCs ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Communes sans voies nommées : 'B'
De: JB jb...@mailoo.org Oups, j'ai dû très mal m'exprimer. Bazoches les Bray ne fait pas partie du gâteau en B, alors qu'il me semble qu'il devrait. C'est pas un grand malheur, mais je suis curieux… Pierre-Yves a trouvé l'explication et le coupable. Évidemment un cas comme ça mériterait largement sa place dans l'inventaire. On ferra un gâteau de rattrapage avec les cas limites :) vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [tag] musée d'art
Le 28 janv. 2015 à 14:39, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Cela me fait penser à la Galerie des glaces au chateau de Versailles! L'ajouter et y ajouter un attribut musée? Et incidemment, l'entité Chateau, c'est plus que l'immeuble principal. Il y aurait beaucoup de travail à faire là aussi. Le portail d'entrée notamment est simplement représenté par une clé barrier=gate. Pas bien compris : le château principal, le Grand Trianon, le hameau de la Reine et le parc sont un musée en totalité, sauf certains bâtiments (La Lanterne, par ex.), pourquoi faire un cas de la Galerie des Glaces, uniquement pour une collision linguistique ? Christian R. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [tag] musée d'art
Du coup j'ai traduit (il y a déjà quelques jours) les deux pages du wiki en français Heureusement que j'ai dit que ne pas traduire les dernières conneries du wiki anglais avait parfois du bon ;-) Trop tard, c'était déjà fait ! Mais bon la dernière connerie en question du wiki anglais a 4 ans, alors que la traduction est toute fraîche. La traduction est fidèle donc avec des contradictions (surtout pour gallery) j'assume ! Bon alors tu vas prendre le sujet à bras le corps et ouvrir la discussion sur la liste tagg...@osm.org ^^ Tu y vas, tout seul contre les anglais, à l'assaut de la National Gallery ! On est là, derrière, quelque part... ^^ Vas-y Eric, on te regarde ! ;) Tu peux potasser les grands batailles historiques et les récentes escarmouches http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Art_gallery http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Art_gallery#Voting http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:tourism%3Dgallery Plan de bataille : * alternative/preferred tagging sur les pages wiki + Talk:wiki * proposal page for deprecate + new tag/subtag * discussion sur list:tagging Avec ça tu nous remets d'équerre tous les musées d'art en tourism=museum + museum=art Toutes les galeries de vente en shop=art Tu parles aussi de : Les galeries (au sens espaces d'expositions non permanentes) Pour moi ça ne mérite pas une catégorie à part, à peine un subtag. Je trouve que ça a sa place dans tourism=museum + museum=* + un subtag pour exposition temporaire Ou alors du amenity=arts_centre En fait vu le nombre de faux-positifs et faux-négatifs autour de tourism=gallery ... je suis plutôt réticent à le ré-utiliser même avec des descriptions détaillées dans le wiki. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
Precisely ! On 28 January 2015 at 14:30, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 28/01/2015 14:24, Pmailkeey . wrote: A 10 year old who buys cigarettes might conceivably accidentally smoke them. Err.. But it's illegal to sell to under age people. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-at] Wohnpark als Relation
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:07:14PM +0100, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: On 27.01.2015 23:30, Markus Straub wrote: OK, ihr habt mich überzeugt - residential-Fläche it is. Jetzt frag ich mich allerdings was kaputt ist - die building=apartments werden nicht mehr gerendet. Wieso? https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4521528#map=18/48.25414/16.42012 Ich hab eines der Gebäude (id 126138850) neu hochgeladen ohne was dran zu ändern. Siehe da, jetzt ist es aufgetaucht. D.h. anscheinend berechnet Mapnik nicht alles, was sich im Tile befindet, neu, sondern er hat einen Speicher von Objekten, die er beim Rendern zusammensetzt. Und wenn sich in den OSM-Daten was ändert, dann ändert er diese Objekte im Objektespeicher, bzw. löscht sie oder fügt welche hinzu. Das kann ich mir nicht vorstellen. Ich tippe da eher auf einen Bug in osm2pgsql, dass Objekte die Teil einer Relation waren aber danach eingeständige Objekte wären, nicht neu berechnet werden. gruesse, Stephan -- Seid unbequem, seid Sand, nicht Öl im Getriebe der Welt! - Günther Eich ,-. | Stephan Bösch-Plepelits,| | Technische Universität Wien -Studien Informatik Raumplanung | | Projects: | | openstreetbrowser.org couchsurfing.org tubasis.at bl.mud.at | | Contact:| | Mail: sk...@xover.mud.at Blog: plepe.at | | Twitter: twitter.com/plepe Jabber: sk...@jabber.at | `-' ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Communes sans voies nommées : 'B'
Une petite curiosité, tu sais pourquoi Bazoches les Bray 77025 ne sort
pas dans la liste ?
Pas de rue retrouvée, d'après
http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/#insee=77025
JB.
Le 25/01/2015 13:31, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :
Bonjour,
le chantier Mapcraft de nommage de rues pour les communes muettes
commençant par T - Z [1] touche à sa fin, avec plus de 90% des
communes prises en charge. À noter, la Corse est un peu délaissée et
concentre la moitié du reste à faire.
Retour en quelques chiffres sur les deux premiers chantiers de la
série ('A' et 'T-Z') :
on recense 3687 voies nouvellement nommées, dont 3234 avec
rapprochement Fantoir. Elles permettent d'alimenter BANO en n°
d'adresse à hauteur de 25000 nouveaux points, rien que ça.
Pour continuer sur cette belle lancée, je vous propose un nouveau
gâteau, avec les 231 communes sans nom de voies et commençant par 'B'.
Ça se passe par ici :
http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/468 et vous êtes tou(te)s bienvenu(e)s.
et toujours le wiki :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/WikiProject_Base_Adresses_Nationale_Ouverte_(BANO)/MapCraft_:_communes_sans_aucune_rue_nomm%C3%A9e
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[Talk-it] Segnali stradali
Guardando in giro sulla wiki ho visto che in alcune nazioni sono state inserite le preimpostazioni per diversi segnali stradali. Per l'Italia c'è qualcosa di utilizzabile o dobbiamo inventarci le assegnazioni? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Segnali-stradali-tp5831655.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
On 28 January 2015 at 12:10, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: Do we need an OSM disclaimer The copyright page does include: Inclusion of data in OpenStreetMap does not imply that the original data provider endorses OpenStreetMap, provides any warranty, or accepts any liability. http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb They would say you made information available to others for the purpose of them using that information, you cannot deny some liability for when people use that information (whether rightly or wrongly) In UK law, if you lend a neighbour your ladder and hedge trimmer, if he cuts his fingers off as he falls from the ladder, you can be held liable for lending him the gear. Basically, on doing the lending you have a duty to assess whether he's capable of using the gear safely. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [tag] musée d'art
Cela me fait penser à la Galerie des glaces au chateau de Versailles! L'ajouter et y ajouter un attribut musée? Et incidemment, l'entité Chateau, c'est plus que l'immeuble principal. Il y aurait beaucoup de travail à faire là aussi. Le portail d'entrée notamment est simplement représenté par une clé barrier=gate. Pierre De : Pieren pier...@gmail.com À : Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 28 janvier 2015 7h56 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [tag] musée d'art 2015-01-27 20:22 GMT+01:00 Eric Brosselin - Osm o...@eric.brosselin.net: Du coup j'ai traduit (il y a déjà quelques jours) les deux pages du wiki en français Heureusement que j'ai dit que ne pas traduire les dernières conneries du wiki anglais avait parfois du bon ;-) La traduction est fidèle donc avec des contradictions (surtout pour gallery) j'assume ! Bon alors tu vas prendre le sujet à bras le corps et ouvrir la discussion sur la liste tagg...@osm.org ^^ Le fait que certains musées aient le mot gallery dans leur nom anglais peut ajouter à la confusion. (ex National Gallery) Ca n'est pas parce que le nom contient le mot gallery que ça n'est pas un musée. Peut-être cette lecture pour aider: http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-an-art-gallery-and-museum En anglais le mot gallery est utilisé entre autres pour : Il ne faut pas s'arrêter au mot gallery seul qui a une utilisation assez large comme en français.. Pieren ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose
ça ne changera jamais pour toute la France (enfin j’espère). Si ça change pour une commune il faudra créer une relation comme ça (Pour la France c'est ici : http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/934933) plutôt que de changer les limitations sur chaque rue? ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom
Dana 28. 1. 2015. 13:29 osoba Weigand Petar weigand.pe...@gmail.com napisala je: Janko, hvala na infu. Sjetio sam se da tu ima još i speleoloških objekata, a za njih mogu pitati i speleologe kakva su njihova iskustva s OSMom. www.speleolog.hr je sekcija HPD Željezničara pa neće bit neki problem pitati. Što se špilja tiče, u OSM se može ucrtati natural=cave_entrance, ali crtanje unutrašnjih cijevi nema previše smisla pošto su obično vertikalne. Ipak, ako postoje dva ulaza, može se otprilike shematski ucrtati spoj između dva ulaza sa highway=path (ako se može proći bez većih problema) i možda tunnel=cave. Naravno, ime pećine i put do nje je super podatak. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcave_entrance Što se tiče označavanja, najbolje bi bilo da pripremimo par primjera kako što označiti i na predavanju jednostavno kažem ljudima kako što mora biti ili gdje da pročitaju više o tome. Btw kod planinarenja je bitna razlika između pl. doma, kuće, skloništa... To su klasifikacije koje dodjeljuje HPS ( http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planinarski_objekti). Da sad ne duljim sa različitim detaljima oko toga. Budem pripremio osnovne primjere koji su bitni iz perspektive planinara pa ćeš mi reći kako da to točno označe. Sjajno. Nadam se da će se uključiti i jhabijan, naš dežurni planinar. Vezano za održavanje promjena, budem vidio kako to sada rade u HPSu jer mislim da i oni sami s time imaju problema pa ćemo probati nekako automatizirati da njihove promjene budu odmah ažurne i na OSMu. Jel ok označavanje penjačkih smjerova prema ovom wikiu http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dclimbing ? Nisam skužio jer je to neki prijedlog ili pravilo za korištenje. Mislim tu možemo računati na sve smjerove koje su postavili članovi AO HPD Željezničar i oni će ih rado unijeti. Čak bi mi to moglo biti dobro da im dam za vježbu na praktičnom dijelu predavanja :). Taj wiki prijedlog je prihvaćen. Ali čak i ako nije prihvaćen, može se koristiti ako je logičan (pa se može izmjeniti ako se prihvati neki drugi). Po ovom wikiju, ako stijena ima više smjerova, onda se na cijeloj stijeni kaže koji je raspon težina. Znači minimalna težina, maksimalna, i mean (prosijek težina). Oni spominju dva sustava težina, ne razumijem se u to, valjda će oni to bolje kužit. ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
On 28/01/2015 14:24, Pmailkeey . wrote: A 10 year old who buys cigarettes might conceivably accidentally smoke them. Err.. But it's illegal to sell to under age people. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
A 10 year old who buys cigarettes might conceivably accidentally smoke them. On 28 January 2015 at 14:21, Phillip Barnett phillip.p.barn...@gmail.com wrote: So all shopkeepers are liable if they sell a hedge trimmer to someone who then cuts off their fingers? I would be very surprised if that was the case On 28 Jan 2015, at 13:52, Pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: On 28 January 2015 at 12:10, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: Do we need an OSM disclaimer The copyright page does include: Inclusion of data in OpenStreetMap does not imply that the original data provider endorses OpenStreetMap, provides any warranty, or accepts any liability. http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb They would say you made information available to others for the purpose of them using that information, you cannot deny some liability for when people use that information (whether rightly or wrongly) In UK law, if you lend a neighbour your ladder and hedge trimmer, if he cuts his fingers off as he falls from the ladder, you can be held liable for lending him the gear. Basically, on doing the lending you have a duty to assess whether he's capable of using the gear safely. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose
C'est utile seulement si c'est implicite (entrée de ville sans panneau) si c'est explicite avec un panneau de limitation ça n'a pas de sens car tant que le panneau de limitation est présent c'est le panneaux de limitation qui fera foi. maxspeed=FR:urban maxspeed=50 Si l'on se réfère au futur texte, les maires auront le pouvoir de réduire cette limite encore plus dans leurs ville... Le 28 janvier 2015 09:13, Pierre-Yves Berrard pierre.yves.berr...@gmail.com a écrit : Pas lié à osmose : A quoi ça sert maxspeed=FR:urban au lieu de maxspeed=50? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed J'ai lu mais j'ai pas compris l'utilité pour la france. En France comme ailleurs, si la vitesse légale change, cette méthode ne nécessite que de changer la valeur qu'une fois (donc ne pas à avoir à modifier tous les ways concernés) . Je ne sais pas où sont stockées les valeurs correspodant à ces tags par contre. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Communes sans voies nommées : 'B'
Le 28 janvier 2015 10:12, JB jb...@mailoo.org a écrit : Une petite curiosité, tu sais pourquoi Bazoches les Bray 77025 ne sort pas dans la liste ? Pas de rue retrouvée, d'après http://cadastre.openstreetmap. fr/fantoir/#insee=77025 JB. Je me suis déjà posé cette question. Tu as certainement un highway avec un tag name qui traîne quelque part sur l'emprise de la commune (typiquement à la frontière d'une commune adjacente). Celui-là par exemple : http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160098157 Son extrémité fait partie de la frontière. Du coup il est peut-être considéré comme étant à Bazoches... PY ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Communes sans voies nommées : 'B'
Oups, j'ai dû très mal m'exprimer.
Bazoches les Bray ne fait pas partie du gâteau en B, alors qu'il me
semble qu'il devrait. C'est pas un grand malheur, mais je suis curieux…
JB.
Le 28/01/2015 10:52, didier2020 a écrit :
ce matin cadastre est surchargé :
il y a un message compte tenu d'un nombre important de visiteurs,
http://www.cadastre.gouv.fr
Le mercredi 28 janvier 2015 à 10:12 +0100, JB a écrit :
Une petite curiosité, tu sais pourquoi Bazoches les Bray 77025 ne sort
pas dans la liste ?
Pas de rue retrouvée, d'après
http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/#insee=77025
JB.
Le 25/01/2015 13:31, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :
Bonjour,
le chantier Mapcraft de nommage de rues pour les communes muettes
commençant par T - Z [1] touche à sa fin, avec plus de 90% des
communes prises en charge. À noter, la Corse est un peu délaissée et
concentre la moitié du reste à faire.
Retour en quelques chiffres sur les deux premiers chantiers de la
série ('A' et 'T-Z') :
on recense 3687 voies nouvellement nommées, dont 3234 avec
rapprochement Fantoir. Elles permettent d'alimenter BANO en n°
d'adresse à hauteur de 25000 nouveaux points, rien que ça.
Pour continuer sur cette belle lancée, je vous propose un nouveau
gâteau, avec les 231 communes sans nom de voies et commençant par 'B'.
Ça se passe par ici :
http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/468 et vous êtes tou(te)s bienvenu(e)s.
et toujours le wiki :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/WikiProject_Base_Adresses_Nationale_Ouverte_(BANO)/MapCraft_:_communes_sans_aucune_rue_nomm%C3%A9e
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Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations
On 2015-01-27 22:42, Greg Morgan wrote: OSM Inspector[1] has a nice tool to check issues with these city/town/village/hamlet POIs. I updated a bunch of the POIs in Arizona to the 2010 numbers. I see that some mappers changed the values to the estimated value. Another mapper would change it back to the 2010 actual numbers. I have don't have an issue with the mechanical edits unless the edits would remove gnis id tags or other useful data. Just as with the manual edits both the estimated value and actual 2010 values were close enough. They correctly raised the value closer to the 2010 number from the 2000 number. The original GNIS import was also wildly incorrect in some cases. For example, Mount Pleasant, Delaware County, Indiana [1], was given a population of 12,459, but it's really an unincorporated community with a couple hundred residents at most. The Census doesn't keep any data on its population. Should the mechanical edit remove population tags on places that don't correspond to any Census division? Or maybe just flag them for manual followup? I guess a local could unofficially guesstimate the population of a community like Mount Pleasant. [1] https://osm.org/changeset/28225500 Deleting? I question this. I am not in favor of it. I think there is a mismatch between rural America and Metro America areas. I have a sense that Metro mappers have a lower value of some POIs that are essential to rural areas. Vicksburg Junction[2] could be a possible deletion target. I am not sure if there is an actual boundary for the area. Cleator Arizona[3] is another example. People live there with real addresses even though it looks like a ghost town. The best I could do is make a residential landuse area. There are any number of small named areas from the Census that are significant names that the locals use. How do you know that you are not deleting valuable named data? Moreover, you can query on Moon Valley Arizona and find a well known area in metro Phoenix. Sure someday that POI can be made into an area. I have wondered what kind of a polygon would be the correct one for this area. There's no real legal boundary for the area. I have already had to dig that POI out of the trash bin once. It doesn't sound like Paul was proposing to systematically eliminate place=hamlet POIs. It sounds like he was evaluating each one on its merits. I do delete GNIS POIs fairly regularly, but not just because they're tagged place=hamlet. It's usually because it's a mobile home park that I can turn into a more accurate landuse=residential. Or it's the name of a railroad junction torn out a century ago that now sits in the middle of wilderness. (There is place=isolated_dwelling in the event that a small cluster of houses is still called by that name.) On the other hand, I have been aggressive about preventing TIGER CDP boundaries from rendering, but they're a whole different animal than GNIS POIs. They usually end up being so precise as to be inaccurate. When I delete a CDP boundary, the map usually continues to show the local name thanks to a well-placed GNIS POI. Finally, why would you want to dash the hopes of a new mapper[1]? I shared the excite with a mapper as he talked about his recent project. He had just put in the Phoenix Urban Planning Villages or whatever they are called. Now you can look for alhambra arizona and find one of these areas as a POI. I am afraid that his victory would fall prey to your deletions. If you don't know the area or are not sure, then just leave it alone. Phoenix's distinction between Urban Planning Villages and council districts reminds me of how other cities distinguish between neighborhoods and electoral wards. I favor mapping the former as boundary=administrative and admin_level=10, or as a place=suburb POI if the boundary is unknown. But I'd leave the latter out of the picture, just as I'd avoid mapping state legislative districts. Alhambra [2] looks good to me. [2] https://osm.org/node/150948276 -- m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose
Pas lié à osmose : A quoi ça sert maxspeed=FR:urban au lieu de maxspeed=50? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed J'ai lu mais j'ai pas compris l'utilité pour la france. En France comme ailleurs, si la vitesse légale change, cette méthode ne nécessite que de changer la valeur qu'une fois (donc ne pas à avoir à modifier tous les ways concernés) . Je ne sais pas où sont stockées les valeurs correspodant à ces tags par contre. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-se] Strul med hydda
Hej, Jag la nyss märket till att jag får 404-svar när jag försöker få hydda-tiles på zoom nivå 16 ute i obygden http://b.tile.openstreetmap.se/hydda/full/16/35453/20345.png (sorry Mörrum). Eftersom det inte är omöjligt att dessa tiles inte genererats tidigare undrar jag om det är tilegenereringen som kanske är nere? Nivå 16 (och närmare) är inga problem inne i t.ex. Stockholm. /André André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-lv] Jauns lietotājs
On 28/01/15 10:31, stas wrote: Sveiki! Saņēmu e-pastu, izdarot pirmo izmaiņu kartē. Dodoet ziņu, kad būs OSM community iznākšana ārā. ;) sveiki un paldies par kartes papildinaashanu :) ja domaati mapping parties - noteikti zinjosim shajaa listee. -- Rich ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Meta-relations et bases de données externes [Était: Osmose]
Tiens, voici quelque chose que j'ignorais totalement ! Je ne pensais pas qu'il existait une relation pour définir formellement les paramètres tels que def:urban,unit=kmh=50 Et en parcourant les relations proches, j'en ai découvert une qui définit les jours fériés : http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/957715 J'ai commencé par me dire que c'est totalement hors-sujet, puis je me suis souvenu que l'on renseigne bien les jours fériés des commerces, et que du coup, c'est utile aussi. (Par contre, quid des commerces ouverts les jours fériés ?) C'est vrai qu'OSM porte de plus en plus mal son nom mais que d'un autre côté, faire des liens fiables avec des bases de données externes qui n'existent pas forcément, c'est compliqué. Je suis persuadé qu'il faudrait différents éditeurs spécialisés en fonction de l'usage des données. Dans le cas présent, je pense à une vitrine spéciale des données OSM pour consulter et saisir et les horaires d'ouverture (et pourquoi pas le type de commerce) qui soit totalement grand public. En résumé, un clone de http://www.les-horaires.fr/, mais avec OSM en tant que base de données, quitte à faire une migration massive des données OSM vers une base tierce au moment il cela sera jugé nécessaire. 2015-01-28 10:07 GMT+01:00 Vincent de Château-Thierry osm.v...@free.fr: Bonjour, De: Pierre-Yves Berrard pierre.yves.berr...@gmail.com En France comme ailleurs, si la vitesse légale change, cette méthode ne nécessite que de changer la valeur qu'une fois (donc ne pas à avoir à modifier tous les ways concernés) . Je ne sais pas où sont stockées les valeurs correspodant à ces tags par contre. Pour la France c'est ici : http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/934933 vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzfrage: Zuarbeit für Papierkarte
On Wednesday 28 January 2015, Erik Heinz wrote: Das geht nicht automatisch. Der Radroutenlayer wird in Handarbeit an die Karte angepasst. Aus kartographischen Gesichtspunkten, und weil die Karte als historisch gewachsenes Produkt keine triviale Projektion hat. Der bearbeitet Radroutenlayer stellt die Datenbank dar, die share-alike zu veröffentlichen wäre. Nur ist dieser Layer kein horizontal layer mehr (siehe http://osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Community_Guidelines), sondern verknüpft mit den restlichen Daten der Karte, und für sich genommen auch wertlos. Somit müssten ALLE Daten, die zur Produktion der Karte dienen, share-alike veröffentlicht werden. Nein, dieser Eindruck ist definitiv nicht korrekt. Man sollte bei der Betrachtung immer klar im Hinterkopf haben, dass sowohl die ODBL als auch die Community Guidelines stark an heute verbreiteten, zumindest teilweise automatisierten Verfahren orientiert sind, bei denen eine klare Trennung zwischen der Datenverarbeitung und der Gestaltung besteht. Bei einer vollständig in Handarbeit produzierten Karte muss man diese Konzepte analog anwenden. Das ist natürlich schwierig, denn es besteht hier ja oft eben keine klare Trennung zwischen Datenverarbeitung und Gestaltung. In jedem Fall ist man jedoch nie pauschal genötigt, alle Daten unter kompatibler Lizenz verfügbar zu machen, sondern nur das, was mit den OSM-Daten verbunden wird. Wenn ihr also OSM-Radrouten auf Basis anderer Informationen modifiziert oder ergänzt, dann müsst Ihr diese Veränderungen verfügbar machen, nicht die gesamten Daten, die Ihr als Informationsquelle hierfür herangezogen habt. Wenn Ihr diese Daten nur in einer abstrusen, nicht invertierbaren Projektion vorliegen habt wäre das natürlich für OSM sehr ungünstig - rein rechtlich jedoch kein Problem. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-at] Wohnpark als Relation
On 27.01.2015 23:30, Markus Straub wrote: OK, ihr habt mich überzeugt - residential-Fläche it is. Jetzt frag ich mich allerdings was kaputt ist - die building=apartments werden nicht mehr gerendet. Wieso? https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4521528#map=18/48.25414/16.42012 Ich hab eines der Gebäude (id 126138850) neu hochgeladen ohne was dran zu ändern. Siehe da, jetzt ist es aufgetaucht. D.h. anscheinend berechnet Mapnik nicht alles, was sich im Tile befindet, neu, sondern er hat einen Speicher von Objekten, die er beim Rendern zusammensetzt. Und wenn sich in den OSM-Daten was ändert, dann ändert er diese Objekte im Objektespeicher, bzw. löscht sie oder fügt welche hinzu. Da das Building-MP gelöscht wurde, wurden dessen Teilflächen, also die Gebäudeflächen, aus dem Speicher gelöscht. Dass die einzelnen Ways ebenfalls als building=* erfasst waren, wurde nicht berücksichtigt, weil sie sich nicht geändert haben. Jetzt, wo ich das Gebäude neu hochgeladen habe, sagte sich Mapnik: Ah, an dem wurde was geändert. Ah, es ist ein Gebäude. Ist es schon in meinem Objektespeicher? Nein. Also anlegen. Soweit meine Hypothese. :-) -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom
Janko, hvala na infu. Sjetio sam se da tu ima još i speleoloških objekata, a za njih mogu pitati i speleologe kakva su njihova iskustva s OSMom. www.speleolog.hr je sekcija HPD Željezničara pa neće bit neki problem pitati. Što se tiče označavanja, najbolje bi bilo da pripremimo par primjera kako što označiti i na predavanju jednostavno kažem ljudima kako što mora biti ili gdje da pročitaju više o tome. Btw kod planinarenja je bitna razlika između pl. doma, kuće, skloništa... To su klasifikacije koje dodjeljuje HPS ( http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planinarski_objekti). Da sad ne duljim sa različitim detaljima oko toga. Budem pripremio osnovne primjere koji su bitni iz perspektive planinara pa ćeš mi reći kako da to točno označe. Vezano za održavanje promjena, budem vidio kako to sada rade u HPSu jer mislim da i oni sami s time imaju problema pa ćemo probati nekako automatizirati da njihove promjene budu odmah ažurne i na OSMu. Jel ok označavanje penjačkih smjerova prema ovom wikiu http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dclimbing ? Nisam skužio jer je to neki prijedlog ili pravilo za korištenje. Mislim tu možemo računati na sve smjerove koje su postavili članovi AO HPD Željezničar i oni će ih rado unijeti. Čak bi mi to moglo biti dobro da im dam za vježbu na praktičnom dijelu predavanja :). 2015-01-28 12:41 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com: Evo još nekoliko relevantnih wiki stranica: Za staze se upisuje sac_scale, da se vidi koliko je težak put: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale Ako ima alpinističkih pomagala tipa kabeli ili ljestve onda imaš: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Safety_measures_on_hiking_trails Postoji predloženi tag highway=via_ferrata koji opisuje baš te alpinističke dijelove: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/via_ferrata Pitanje je treba li koristiti taj tag. Po meni ne bi bilo loše, jer nema baš smisla te dijelove zvati highway=path. To nije puteljak, to je vertikalna stijena po kojoj se pentraš. To se možemo dogovoriti. Taj tag se renderira na aplikaciji Locus, website ovdje: http://www.openandromaps.org (nisam probao). Ima i predloženi tag obstacle=* sa kojim se mogu označiti srušena stabla, gusto žbunje i sl. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Obstacle Moramo se dogovoriti kako ćemo označavati planinarske kuće. Ovisno o tome jel stalno otvorena ili moraš tražiti ključ, jel se mora rezervirati, jel ima krevete i koliko itd. Onda razna skloništa, kućice,.. Planinarske rute označavamo sa relacijama, koje imaju tagove: type=route route=hiking network=možemo se dogovoriti što je lwn, rwn i nwn. Trenutno je recimo Goranski planinarski put označen kao rwn (regionalni) a staze na Sljeme su lwn (lokalne). Ne znam jel ima neki za nwn (nacionalni) name=Ime rute osmc:symbol=ovo je tip markacije. Klasična Knafelčeva markacija se tagira pomoću red:white:red_circle, Stepinčev put se tagira sa orange:orange:white_cross Najbolje da te rute pogledaš na sjajnoj karti: http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/ Što se tiče održavanja kvalitete podataka, ja imam taj jedan projekt gdje bi se svi podaci koji se žele održavati stavili u tablicu, i onda bi na jednom mjestu imao jel se šta promjenilo. Još bih trebao malo prčkati po tome da proradi u potpunosti, ali takvo nešto moramo imati. Ja na sve putove koje precrtam sa http://gps-planine.com stavim tag source=http://gps-planine.com tako da se zna otkuda taj podatak. Također na sve planinarske kuće možemo staviti source=http://hps.hr. E da, jedna od čestih grešaka koju planinari rade jest da stave svoj gps trag preko karte, i onda jednostavno preko njega nacrtaju highway=path od početka do kraja, nevezano za podatke ispod. Onda ja to vidim, i moram dijelom brisati gdje ispod već postoji nešto, a dijelom ostaviti gdje ispod nema ničega. Planinari valjda ne shvaćaju da su to podaci koji se međusobno spajaju. To mi se recimo desilo ovdje: http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=16lat=45.43181lon=14.57287hill=0 Tamo planinarska ruta ide malo po puteljku, pa po cesti, pa po traktorskom putu, pa puteljak, pa put itd. Treba ucrtati svaki komad staze ono što jest, cesta, puteljak, ili traktorski put. I bilo bi dobro za planinare ucrtati gdje se smije voziti autom, dakle motorcar=yes ili no. P.S. jučer su javili da je glavni openstreetmap layer počeo renderirati natural=bare_rock pa sam ih ucrtao i izgleda poprilično dobro: http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=17lat=45.43061lon=14.62212hill=0 Dana 28. siječnja 2015. u 08:50 Weigand Petar weigand.pe...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Pozdrav i hvala na dobrodošlici, ja sam član HPD Željezničar, a tu je član i Alan Čaplar koji je ujedno i jedna od glavnih ličnosti u HPSu pa mislim da bi mogao preko njega puno toga progurati. Jel ima neki predložak za mail gdje bi mu kratko opisao što to znači da ćemo koristiti njihove podatke? Kad sam mu bio to spomenuo prije, njima je
Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom
Nemamo neki predložak(bar ja nemam) kojim objašnjavamo tko je odgovoran za podatke. Postoji primjer iz slovenije gdje je GURS(Geodetska uprava Republike Slovenije) 2009. dala slovencku državnu granicu za korištenje u OSM i da oni nisu odgovorni za sve kasnije promjene. Možda nešto na tom principu. Ali to što si sad spomenuo je baš to što sam rekao da sam imao problema. Tko je odgovoran za podatke... Nebih sad više o tome, jer nemam dobra iskustva s institucijama koje se pozivaju na odgovornost. Treba objasniti da je svaka osoba dgovorna za podatke koje unosi. Uz svaku promjenu stoji korisničko ime i što je promjenjeno. Ako se unesu HPS podatci i oni su krivi onda je HPS odgovoran, ako HPS unese dobre podatke a netko ih promjeni nakon tog unosa i označi nešto netočno, onda je ta osoba odgovorna. Uvijek postoji opcija vraćanja podataka na prethodno stanje. Što se tiče korištenja OSM-a, pretpostavljam da neki planinari posjeduju i Garmin uređaje, jučer sam napiso kratki članak o korištenju na Garmin uređajima: http://osm-hr.org/2015/01/27/openstreetmap-na-garmin-uredajima/ U planu je i članak o korištenju na Android uređajima koristeći OsmAnd aplikaciju. Dok to nebude gotovo evo par linkova OSMAnd i plugin za hillshade i slojnice koji se mogu naći na F-Droid (F-Droid is an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform. The client makes it easy to browse, install, and keep track of updates on your device.) https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=net.osmand.plus ovo je direkt link za preuzimanje aplikacije: https://f-droid.org/repo/net.osmand.plus_196.apk https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=net.osmand.srtmPlugin.paid ovo je direkt link za preuzimanje plugina: https://f-droid.org/repo/net.osmand.srtmPlugin.paid_6.apk Jedno je app a drugo plugin za slojnice i hillshade Primjer kako je to izgledalo u starijoj verziji: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osmand/osmand.png Prmjer kako to izgleda u 1.9.4 verziji: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osmand/osmand-sljeme.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osmand/osmand-japetic.png Sa F-Droid se može slobodno preuzeti i aplikacija i plugin, koji se inače plaćaju, jer su otvoreni kod. Ako se ljudima svide može se preko Google Play Marketa(kako se već sad zove) kupiti i financirati autore aplikacije. Hrvoje On 01/28/2015 08:50 AM, Weigand Petar wrote: Pozdrav i hvala na dobrodošlici, ja sam član HPD Željezničar, a tu je član i Alan Čaplar koji je ujedno i jedna od glavnih ličnosti u HPSu pa mislim da bi mogao preko njega puno toga progurati. Jel ima neki predložak za mail gdje bi mu kratko opisao što to znači da ćemo koristiti njihove podatke? Kad sam mu bio to spomenuo prije, njima je problem da ne bi oni bili odgovorni ako dođe do nekih grešaka u OSMu pa da se na temelju toga netko npr izgubi negdje nasred Velebita pa da ispadne da je kriv njihov podatak. Pretpostavljam da ima neki disclaimer kojim oni nisu odgovorni za to što je netko preuzeo podatke od njih i naveo ih kao izvor? Ako ima tako nešto, samo malo ljepše napisano, to bi bilo super. Ako netko od vas hoće direktno kontaktirati HPS, slobodno pošaljite mail na cap...@hps.hr i referencirajte se na mene. Alan je i glavni urednik hps.hr, a rekao mi je da oni sve podatke o npr pl.domovima imaju u nekim Excelicama na dropboxu i da nije neki problem to shareati. Osim što bi se mogli preuzeti podaci od njih, oni bi mogli i povratno dobiti odličan servis za sve svoje potrebe. Npr prikaz svojih podataka na OSM kartama, a ne Googleu i sl. To im lako i ja napravim... Što se tiče tečaja, danas se nalazimo u društvu oko tog pitanja pa ćemo složiti neki pregled kako bi ta predavanja mogla izgledati. Za sad je ideja napraviti prvo predavanje s kojom ćemo ljude probati navući na samo korištenje OSM podataka (priprema rute na gpsies.com + OsmAnd za ) kako bi ih zainteresirali za to da i sami kontribuiraju nazad na OSM ili da sami pripreme svoje karte, slože offline tileove i td. Ako interes bude dobar, iduće predavanje bi napravili o osnovama kontribuiranja u OSM, a nakon toga kako koristiti npr maperritive ili ubaciti OSM layere u Google Earth i sl. Janko, vezano za tagove koje bi koristili, možeš mi poslati neki link na koje wikie si mislio? Ovo predavanje će biti u sklopu alpinističkog odsjeka pa mi najzanimljivije izgleda: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dclimbing , a naravno za opće planinarske stvari: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hiking . 2015-01-27 16:35 GMT+01:00 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com: Pozdrav i dobrodošao nikad nije kasno za uključiti se, bitno je početi. Drago mi je da se i kod planinara pokrenula priča o korištenju OSM-a, biciklisti su krenuli prije godinu dana u aktivno sudjelovanje. Planinari i biciklisti su vrlo poželjan segment korisnika jer često idete onuda kud većina nas nemože/nestigne jer smo limitirani javnim prijevozom, automobilima, ili
[OSM-talk-be] Mapillary traffic sign recognition
Mapillary now also recognizes traffic signs on the pictures uploaded to that service http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2015/01/27/traffic-signs.html I only had a very brief look on some of the pictures that I uploaded. Mixed results. regards m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
Hi Neil Bottom Line: Don't put unverifiable data into OSM. I've always been against underground cables/pipes. The utility companies can't even map them accurately when they're being constructed! Drawing a straight line between two stations on, basically, as guess, adds no quality. They shouldn't be rendered in a general purpose rendering like mapnik, should really be stored as a separate database overlaid in a specific map for the few that actually require the information. To answer your question, a disclaimer might be worth displaying, however, with reference to the number of people falling in the Avon in Bath, no matter how much information you give, you'll always have stupid people who ignore it. Dave F. On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: Do we need an OSM disclaimer -- I've just had a mail from a gentleman enquiring why an underground powerline http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/127968407/history#map=17/51.50283/-2.55462 was drawn on OSM -- as he didn't want to buy a house on top of it and Western Power told him the powerline couldn't be there! I think he joined OSM just to message me?!? As it happens I think I may have modified one end to change the overhead route adjacent to it -- and when I checked the history I can see that I didn't draw in the original version of the underground powerline. I was very tempted to reply with the following disclaimer: Caveat emptor; the presence/absence of any or all of the following items on OpenStreetmap should not be considered definitive: power lines, plague pits, mines, flood planes, mobile phone masts -- but all contributions on these and other topics to OpenStreetmap are warmly welcomed. Unfortunately, I took the easy way out and merely referred him to his solicitor and surveyer :-( I suspect he might have been more upset if he was selling... Cheers, Neil (ndm) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-it] seggiovia dismessa
Ciao, questa seggiovia http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26407245 non esiste più: sono stati tolti anche i piloni, restano solo stazione di partenza e di arrivo. Che dite? Cancellare? Ciao Pietro ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-se] Strul med hydda
För att klargöra, nu funkar hydda tiles igen André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se 2015-01-28 13:28 GMT+01:00 André Costa andre.co...@wikimedia.se: Jepp nu funkar det !. Tack André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se 2015-01-28 13:27 GMT+01:00 André Costa andre.co...@wikimedia.se: Aha, jag slår över till vanliga osm så länge. Tack, André André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se 2015-01-28 12:55 GMT+01:00 Karl Wettin karl.wet...@kodapan.se: Hoppla, det är diskpartitionerna med planetdatabasen och disken med genererade tiles som är knökfulla. Återkommer när det är fixat! kalle On 28 Jan 2015, at 09:43, André Costa andre.co...@wikimedia.se wrote: Hej, Jag la nyss märket till att jag får 404-svar när jag försöker få hydda-tiles på zoom nivå 16 ute i obygden http://b.tile.openstreetmap.se/hydda/full/16/35453/20345.png (sorry Mörrum). Eftersom det inte är omöjligt att dessa tiles inte genererats tidigare undrar jag om det är tilegenereringen som kanske är nere? Nivå 16 (och närmare) är inga problem inne i t.ex. Stockholm. /André André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Strul med hydda
Hoppla, det är diskpartitionerna med planetdatabasen och disken med genererade tiles som är knökfulla. Återkommer när det är fixat! kalle On 28 Jan 2015, at 09:43, André Costa andre.co...@wikimedia.se wrote: Hej, Jag la nyss märket till att jag får 404-svar när jag försöker få hydda-tiles på zoom nivå 16 ute i obygden http://b.tile.openstreetmap.se/hydda/full/16/35453/20345.png (sorry Mörrum). Eftersom det inte är omöjligt att dessa tiles inte genererats tidigare undrar jag om det är tilegenereringen som kanske är nere? Nivå 16 (och närmare) är inga problem inne i t.ex. Stockholm. /André André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se mailto:andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se/ ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: Do we need an OSM disclaimer The copyright page does include: Inclusion of data in OpenStreetMap does not imply that the original data provider endorses OpenStreetMap, provides any warranty, or accepts any liability. http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-se] Strul med hydda
Fungerar det för dig nu? On 28 Jan 2015, at 12:55, Karl Wettin karl.wet...@kodapan.se wrote: Hoppla, det är diskpartitionerna med planetdatabasen och disken med genererade tiles som är knökfulla. Återkommer när det är fixat! kalle On 28 Jan 2015, at 09:43, André Costa andre.co...@wikimedia.se mailto:andre.co...@wikimedia.se wrote: Hej, Jag la nyss märket till att jag får 404-svar när jag försöker få hydda-tiles på zoom nivå 16 ute i obygden http://b.tile.openstreetmap.se/hydda/full/16/35453/20345.png (sorry Mörrum). Eftersom det inte är omöjligt att dessa tiles inte genererats tidigare undrar jag om det är tilegenereringen som kanske är nere? Nivå 16 (och närmare) är inga problem inne i t.ex. Stockholm. /André André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se mailto:andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se/ ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom
Hrvoje, meni je jasno to što se tiče odgovornosti podataka i sl. Dal da ja onda osobno vidim s Čaplarom jel nam mogu dati te podatke? Ako počne priča o odgovornosti, objasniti ću mu kako stvari stoje. Hvala za ovo o Garminima. To sam već nekim planinarima objašnjavao, a i ekspedicija koja je sada u Čileu ima dva Garmina s OSM mapama (rutabilnim i topo), s tim da sam znao imat nekih problema oko renderiranja na nekim Garminima... off-topic... Hvala i na ovom pluginu za OsmAnd. Ja inače preporučam svima da kupe OsmAnd i time podupru FOSS jer sam i sam radio na tako nečemu (www.napp.hr) pa znam kako je to raditi na open source proizvodu. Planinarima je bitno da cijela stvar funkcionira offline pa smo zato na naprednijim predavanjima mislili predavati o offline tileovima: https://code.google.com/p/osmand/wiki/HowToDownloadData . Btw mi ćemo napraviti isto neke materijale na hrvatskom, barem ppt, a možda i snimimo video prezentacije, sve pod nekom CC licencom (valjda BY-SA, ima neki prijedlog?). Također smo uz to mislili napraviti nekakve pisane upute pa možemo zajedno nešto skombinirati? Ako si voljan podijeliti, može i draft verzija, a ja ću valjda danas neki okvir dogovoriti pa ti to pošaljem. 2015-01-28 12:02 GMT+01:00 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com: Nemamo neki predložak(bar ja nemam) kojim objašnjavamo tko je odgovoran za podatke. Postoji primjer iz slovenije gdje je GURS(Geodetska uprava Republike Slovenije) 2009. dala slovencku državnu granicu za korištenje u OSM i da oni nisu odgovorni za sve kasnije promjene. Možda nešto na tom principu. Ali to što si sad spomenuo je baš to što sam rekao da sam imao problema. Tko je odgovoran za podatke... Nebih sad više o tome, jer nemam dobra iskustva s institucijama koje se pozivaju na odgovornost. Treba objasniti da je svaka osoba dgovorna za podatke koje unosi. Uz svaku promjenu stoji korisničko ime i što je promjenjeno. Ako se unesu HPS podatci i oni su krivi onda je HPS odgovoran, ako HPS unese dobre podatke a netko ih promjeni nakon tog unosa i označi nešto netočno, onda je ta osoba odgovorna. Uvijek postoji opcija vraćanja podataka na prethodno stanje. Što se tiče korištenja OSM-a, pretpostavljam da neki planinari posjeduju i Garmin uređaje, jučer sam napiso kratki članak o korištenju na Garmin uređajima: http://osm-hr.org/2015/01/27/openstreetmap-na-garmin-uredajima/ U planu je i članak o korištenju na Android uređajima koristeći OsmAnd aplikaciju. Dok to nebude gotovo evo par linkova OSMAnd i plugin za hillshade i slojnice koji se mogu naći na F-Droid (F-Droid is an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform. The client makes it easy to browse, install, and keep track of updates on your device.) https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=net.osmand.plus ovo je direkt link za preuzimanje aplikacije: https://f-droid.org/repo/net.osmand.plus_196.apk https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=net.osmand.srtmPlugin.paid ovo je direkt link za preuzimanje plugina: https://f-droid.org/repo/net.osmand.srtmPlugin.paid_6.apk Jedno je app a drugo plugin za slojnice i hillshade Primjer kako je to izgledalo u starijoj verziji: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osmand/osmand.png Prmjer kako to izgleda u 1.9.4 verziji: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osmand/osmand-sljeme.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osmand/osmand-japetic.png Sa F-Droid se može slobodno preuzeti i aplikacija i plugin, koji se inače plaćaju, jer su otvoreni kod. Ako se ljudima svide može se preko Google Play Marketa(kako se već sad zove) kupiti i financirati autore aplikacije. Hrvoje On 01/28/2015 08:50 AM, Weigand Petar wrote: Pozdrav i hvala na dobrodošlici, ja sam član HPD Željezničar, a tu je član i Alan Čaplar koji je ujedno i jedna od glavnih ličnosti u HPSu pa mislim da bi mogao preko njega puno toga progurati. Jel ima neki predložak za mail gdje bi mu kratko opisao što to znači da ćemo koristiti njihove podatke? Kad sam mu bio to spomenuo prije, njima je problem da ne bi oni bili odgovorni ako dođe do nekih grešaka u OSMu pa da se na temelju toga netko npr izgubi negdje nasred Velebita pa da ispadne da je kriv njihov podatak. Pretpostavljam da ima neki disclaimer kojim oni nisu odgovorni za to što je netko preuzeo podatke od njih i naveo ih kao izvor? Ako ima tako nešto, samo malo ljepše napisano, to bi bilo super. Ako netko od vas hoće direktno kontaktirati HPS, slobodno pošaljite mail na cap...@hps.hr i referencirajte se na mene. Alan je i glavni urednik hps.hr, a rekao mi je da oni sve podatke o npr pl.domovima imaju u nekim Excelicama na dropboxu i da nije neki problem to shareati. Osim što bi se mogli preuzeti podaci od njih, oni bi mogli i povratno dobiti odličan servis za sve svoje potrebe. Npr prikaz svojih podataka na OSM kartama, a ne Googleu i sl. To im lako i ja napravim... Što se tiče tečaja, danas se
Re: [Talk-se] Strul med hydda
Jepp nu funkar det !. Tack André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se 2015-01-28 13:27 GMT+01:00 André Costa andre.co...@wikimedia.se: Aha, jag slår över till vanliga osm så länge. Tack, André André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se 2015-01-28 12:55 GMT+01:00 Karl Wettin karl.wet...@kodapan.se: Hoppla, det är diskpartitionerna med planetdatabasen och disken med genererade tiles som är knökfulla. Återkommer när det är fixat! kalle On 28 Jan 2015, at 09:43, André Costa andre.co...@wikimedia.se wrote: Hej, Jag la nyss märket till att jag får 404-svar när jag försöker få hydda-tiles på zoom nivå 16 ute i obygden http://b.tile.openstreetmap.se/hydda/full/16/35453/20345.png (sorry Mörrum). Eftersom det inte är omöjligt att dessa tiles inte genererats tidigare undrar jag om det är tilegenereringen som kanske är nere? Nivå 16 (och närmare) är inga problem inne i t.ex. Stockholm. /André André Costa | GLAM-tekniker, Wikimedia Sverige | andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-at] Wohnpark als Relation
On 26.01.15 20:23, Stephan Bösch-Plepelits wrote: Wär das nicht ein typischer Fall für eine site-relation? ACK. Wir hatten das mal glaub' beim George-Washington-Hof (der über mehrere Häuserblöcke geht) diskutiert und das war damals IIRC auch die Lösung. Einen Gemeindebau auf der Fläche zu taggen (und nicht die Gebäude) halte ich für nicht wirklich passend, weil die Flächen um einen Gemeindebau rum meistens Grünflächen sind und man IMHO die taggen sollte. Also: * alle das Gebäude betreffenden Tags sollten auf dem Gebäude (oder der Site-Relation) sein, building UND name des building+) und gelegentlich sind die denkmalgeschützt usw. * die Wiese sollte Wiese sein (leisure=garden oder wie immer man das taggen will) +) nur so hat ein Programm, das danach sucht, die Möglichkeit, Gebäude soundso-Hof (oder Gebäudegruppe soundso-Hof) zu erkennen und zu verstehen. /al ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom
Evo još nekoliko relevantnih wiki stranica: Za staze se upisuje sac_scale, da se vidi koliko je težak put: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale Ako ima alpinističkih pomagala tipa kabeli ili ljestve onda imaš: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Safety_measures_on_hiking_trails Postoji predloženi tag highway=via_ferrata koji opisuje baš te alpinističke dijelove: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/via_ferrata Pitanje je treba li koristiti taj tag. Po meni ne bi bilo loše, jer nema baš smisla te dijelove zvati highway=path. To nije puteljak, to je vertikalna stijena po kojoj se pentraš. To se možemo dogovoriti. Taj tag se renderira na aplikaciji Locus, website ovdje: http://www.openandromaps.org (nisam probao). Ima i predloženi tag obstacle=* sa kojim se mogu označiti srušena stabla, gusto žbunje i sl. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Obstacle Moramo se dogovoriti kako ćemo označavati planinarske kuće. Ovisno o tome jel stalno otvorena ili moraš tražiti ključ, jel se mora rezervirati, jel ima krevete i koliko itd. Onda razna skloništa, kućice,.. Planinarske rute označavamo sa relacijama, koje imaju tagove: type=route route=hiking network=možemo se dogovoriti što je lwn, rwn i nwn. Trenutno je recimo Goranski planinarski put označen kao rwn (regionalni) a staze na Sljeme su lwn (lokalne). Ne znam jel ima neki za nwn (nacionalni) name=Ime rute osmc:symbol=ovo je tip markacije. Klasična Knafelčeva markacija se tagira pomoću red:white:red_circle, Stepinčev put se tagira sa orange:orange:white_cross Najbolje da te rute pogledaš na sjajnoj karti: http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/ Što se tiče održavanja kvalitete podataka, ja imam taj jedan projekt gdje bi se svi podaci koji se žele održavati stavili u tablicu, i onda bi na jednom mjestu imao jel se šta promjenilo. Još bih trebao malo prčkati po tome da proradi u potpunosti, ali takvo nešto moramo imati. Ja na sve putove koje precrtam sa http://gps-planine.com stavim tag source= http://gps-planine.com tako da se zna otkuda taj podatak. Također na sve planinarske kuće možemo staviti source=http://hps.hr. E da, jedna od čestih grešaka koju planinari rade jest da stave svoj gps trag preko karte, i onda jednostavno preko njega nacrtaju highway=path od početka do kraja, nevezano za podatke ispod. Onda ja to vidim, i moram dijelom brisati gdje ispod već postoji nešto, a dijelom ostaviti gdje ispod nema ničega. Planinari valjda ne shvaćaju da su to podaci koji se međusobno spajaju. To mi se recimo desilo ovdje: http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=16lat=45.43181lon=14.57287hill=0 Tamo planinarska ruta ide malo po puteljku, pa po cesti, pa po traktorskom putu, pa puteljak, pa put itd. Treba ucrtati svaki komad staze ono što jest, cesta, puteljak, ili traktorski put. I bilo bi dobro za planinare ucrtati gdje se smije voziti autom, dakle motorcar=yes ili no. P.S. jučer su javili da je glavni openstreetmap layer počeo renderirati natural=bare_rock pa sam ih ucrtao i izgleda poprilično dobro: http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=17lat=45.43061lon=14.62212hill=0 Dana 28. siječnja 2015. u 08:50 Weigand Petar weigand.pe...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Pozdrav i hvala na dobrodošlici, ja sam član HPD Željezničar, a tu je član i Alan Čaplar koji je ujedno i jedna od glavnih ličnosti u HPSu pa mislim da bi mogao preko njega puno toga progurati. Jel ima neki predložak za mail gdje bi mu kratko opisao što to znači da ćemo koristiti njihove podatke? Kad sam mu bio to spomenuo prije, njima je problem da ne bi oni bili odgovorni ako dođe do nekih grešaka u OSMu pa da se na temelju toga netko npr izgubi negdje nasred Velebita pa da ispadne da je kriv njihov podatak. Pretpostavljam da ima neki disclaimer kojim oni nisu odgovorni za to što je netko preuzeo podatke od njih i naveo ih kao izvor? Ako ima tako nešto, samo malo ljepše napisano, to bi bilo super. Ako netko od vas hoće direktno kontaktirati HPS, slobodno pošaljite mail na cap...@hps.hr i referencirajte se na mene. Alan je i glavni urednik hps.hr , a rekao mi je da oni sve podatke o npr pl.domovima imaju u nekim Excelicama na dropboxu i da nije neki problem to shareati. Osim što bi se mogli preuzeti podaci od njih, oni bi mogli i povratno dobiti odličan servis za sve svoje potrebe. Npr prikaz svojih podataka na OSM kartama, a ne Googleu i sl. To im lako i ja napravim... Što se tiče tečaja, danas se nalazimo u društvu oko tog pitanja pa ćemo složiti neki pregled kako bi ta predavanja mogla izgledati. Za sad je ideja napraviti prvo predavanje s kojom ćemo ljude probati navući na samo korištenje OSM podataka (priprema rute na gpsies.com + OsmAnd za ) kako bi ih zainteresirali za to da i sami kontribuiraju nazad na OSM ili da sami pripreme svoje karte, slože offline tileove i td. Ako interes bude dobar, iduće predavanje bi napravili o osnovama kontribuiranja u OSM, a nakon toga kako koristiti npr maperritive ili ubaciti OSM
Re: [Talk-it] seggiovia dismessa
2015-01-28 12:47 GMT+01:00 pietro marzani piem...@yahoo.it: Ciao, questa seggiovia http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26407245 non esiste più: sono stati tolti anche i piloni, restano solo stazione di partenza e di arrivo. Che dite? Cancellare? si, se sono stati tolti piloni e cavi toglierei il feature, lasciando le stazioni. In alternativa potresti aggiungere dei prefissi: ADESSO: aerialway=chair_lift disused=yes layer=1 NUOVO: removed:aerialway=chair_lift layer=1 Più informazioni qui: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix disused si usa per cose che ancora ci sono e quali si potrebbe usare senza troppi sforzi. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-hr] Informacije za planinarska društva i suradnja s Hrvatskim planinarskim savezom
Dakle ako daju podatke i ako su ih kasnije spremni održavati, onda super, tako ćemo uvijek imati svježe podatke. Ako žele samo dati podatke onda su oni samo odgovorni za podatake do tog dana kad su dali podatke i tu njihova odgovornost prestaje za sve kasnije promjene. Tko im garantira da su Google, Bing, ili TK25 točni :D Rendering na Garminu ovih naših karata ili općenito Garmin OSM-a? Svaka pomoć oko ovog našeg je dobrodošla ;) I ja preporučam da kupe, ali nek prvo isprobaju pa vide dali im se sviđa. Zato sam na kraju i naveo da kupe ako im se sviđa :D Bilo je slučajeva da su ljudi kupili pa im se nesviđa jer nije kao google ili neka druga navigacija koju su navikli koristiti... Takvi ljudi su obično glasni i rade štetu OSM projektu i OsmAnd aplikaciji. Moja preporuka je dakle vektorka karta koja dolazi uz aplikaciju + vektorske slojnice i hillshade koji omogućava ovaj plugin. Sve je to dostupno za offline korištenje. Izbjegavao bi skidanje offline tiles jer oni omogućuju smao pregled, dok vektorska karta omogućava i routing, veći je u odnosu na vektorsku kartu i bespotrebno opterecuje servere. Trenutno OsmAnd ažurira karte svijeta svakih ~10 dana, ali u planu je i dnevni export na našem serveru, slično kao i za Garmin. Imamo mi neke prijašnje prezentacija pa baci pogled: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osm/20100305-osm-karlovac-dodobas.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osm/20100305-osm-karlovac-hbogner.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osm/20110516-osm-dorscluc-hbogner.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osm/20131227-pazin-predavanje.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osm/20140618-dorscluc-hbogner.pdf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/osm/20141119-cuc_radionica.pdf Što se tiče pismenih uputa kreirali smo PDF uputstva od http://learnosm.org/hr/beginner/ U planu su daljnje dio po dio upute na osm-hr.org o tome kako nešto nacrtati i urediti. Hrvoje On 01/28/2015 01:17 PM, Weigand Petar wrote: Hrvoje, meni je jasno to što se tiče odgovornosti podataka i sl. Dal da ja onda osobno vidim s Čaplarom jel nam mogu dati te podatke? Ako počne priča o odgovornosti, objasniti ću mu kako stvari stoje. Hvala za ovo o Garminima. To sam već nekim planinarima objašnjavao, a i ekspedicija koja je sada u Čileu ima dva Garmina s OSM mapama (rutabilnim i topo), s tim da sam znao imat nekih problema oko renderiranja na nekim Garminima... off-topic... Hvala i na ovom pluginu za OsmAnd. Ja inače preporučam svima da kupe OsmAnd i time podupru FOSS jer sam i sam radio na tako nečemu (www.napp.hr) pa znam kako je to raditi na open source proizvodu. Planinarima je bitno da cijela stvar funkcionira offline pa smo zato na naprednijim predavanjima mislili predavati o offline tileovima: https://code.google.com/p/osmand/wiki/HowToDownloadData . Btw mi ćemo napraviti isto neke materijale na hrvatskom, barem ppt, a možda i snimimo video prezentacije, sve pod nekom CC licencom (valjda BY-SA, ima neki prijedlog?). Također smo uz to mislili napraviti nekakve pisane upute pa možemo zajedno nešto skombinirati? Ako si voljan podijeliti, može i draft verzija, a ja ću valjda danas neki okvir dogovoriti pa ti to pošaljem. 2015-01-28 12:02 GMT+01:00 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com: Nemamo neki predložak(bar ja nemam) kojim objašnjavamo tko je odgovoran za podatke. Postoji primjer iz slovenije gdje je GURS(Geodetska uprava Republike Slovenije) 2009. dala slovencku državnu granicu za korištenje u OSM i da oni nisu odgovorni za sve kasnije promjene. Možda nešto na tom principu. Ali to što si sad spomenuo je baš to što sam rekao da sam imao problema. Tko je odgovoran za podatke... Nebih sad više o tome, jer nemam dobra iskustva s institucijama koje se pozivaju na odgovornost. Treba objasniti da je svaka osoba dgovorna za podatke koje unosi. Uz svaku promjenu stoji korisničko ime i što je promjenjeno. Ako se unesu HPS podatci i oni su krivi onda je HPS odgovoran, ako HPS unese dobre podatke a netko ih promjeni nakon tog unosa i označi nešto netočno, onda je ta osoba odgovorna. Uvijek postoji opcija vraćanja podataka na prethodno stanje. Što se tiče korištenja OSM-a, pretpostavljam da neki planinari posjeduju i Garmin uređaje, jučer sam napiso kratki članak o korištenju na Garmin uređajima: http://osm-hr.org/2015/01/27/openstreetmap-na-garmin-uredajima/ U planu je i članak o korištenju na Android uređajima koristeći OsmAnd aplikaciju. Dok to nebude gotovo evo par linkova OSMAnd i plugin za hillshade i slojnice koji se mogu naći na F-Droid (F-Droid is an installable catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform. The client makes it easy to browse, install, and keep track of updates on your device.) https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=net.osmand.plus ovo je direkt link za preuzimanje aplikacije: https://f-droid.org/repo/net.osmand.plus_196.apk
Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations
* Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us [150128 09:12]: [..] It doesn't sound like Paul was proposing to systematically eliminate place=hamlet POIs. It sounds like he was evaluating each one on its merits. I do delete GNIS POIs fairly regularly, but not just because they're tagged place=hamlet. It's usually because it's a mobile home park that I can turn into a more accurate landuse=residential. Or it's the name of a railroad junction torn out a century ago that now sits in the middle of wilderness. (There is place=isolated_dwelling in the event that a small cluster of houses is still called by that name.) I used to delete these now unpopulated railroad junction POIs earlier, but nowadays I just reclassify them as place=locality because the names seem to be still in use in many cases. Wolfgang ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: [snip] I guess we might need to be a little careful: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/one-spelling-error-costs-companies-house-up-to-9-million-after-being-sued-for-ruining-business-10007372.html -- Steve --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Pozzo in disuso
2015-01-28 8:22 GMT+01:00 Federico Cortese cortese...@gmail.com: Prima il poligono tourism=attraction veniva renderizzato con riempimento di colore lilla/rosso, dopo l'ultimo aggiornamento invece i poligoni non vengono più renderizzati, viene visualizzato solo l'eventuale name in rosso, come negli esempi proposti, anche se in quei casi si tratta solo di nodi. Per rendersene conto basta dare uno sguardo alla zona del Colosseo a Roma, che prima era tutta rossa, o ai trulli di alberobello, il cui poligono tourism, non avendogli assegnato nome, non viene nemmeno percepito su mapnik: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173353310 confermo, è stato scelto di fare così perché attrazione viene considerato un attributo, non costituisce un feature da solo. Poi il riempimento rosa è stato deciso di essere non più gradito. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-pt] Rotas dos Transportes Urbanos de Braga
Olá a todos, Partindo deste desafio do Miguel Borges (mirtilo), tomei a iniciativa de contactar os TUB para perceber que informação podiam disponibilizar para além da que está nos PDFs. Em reunião com eles (um administrador e um informático) verifiquei que têm toda a informação da rede em formato GTFS [1], que disponibilizam à Google sempre que há atualizações. Sensibilizei-os para as vantagens em publicarem essa informação, com autorização para a sua reutilização, de modo a que outros planeadores de rotas passem a usar esta informação. Devo referir que a abertura do Administrador da TUB, Eng Teotónio Santos, foi total e entusiasmada. E este meu email serve para anunciar que a TUB passou a disponibilizar no seu site (www.tub.pt) toda a informação da sua rede em formato GTFS. O ficheiro está disponível, na secção Downloads, Rede TUB, TUB GTFS. E tal como sugeri, também lá colocaram a indicação: Esta informação é pública e a TUB autoriza a sua reutilização. Assim sendo, está facilitada a tarefa de colocar esta informação no OSM. Aproveitando este exemplo, seria vantajoso que a comunidade OSM divulgasse o mais possível esta iniciativa da TUB para motivar outras entidades a fazerem o mesmo. Abraço, APIRES [1] GTFS - General Transit Feed Specification https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/ On 2014-12-19 16:30, Miguel Borges wrote: Viva Gonçalo, no site da TUB o mapa de todas as rotas está disponível em PDF. É um trabalho que me parece razoável a transferencia da informação da rota para o osm, sobretudo para quem conhece a geografia local. Aliás, parece-me que qualquer outro formato de dados implicaria um processo semelhante na importação para o osm. Sobre o SIGGESC, que desconhecia, parece-me uma possibilidade com algum potencial (ainda que antevendo algumas dificuldade, como ilustra este exemplo de interação http://www.transportespublicos.pt/carta-aberta-ao-presidente-da-area-metropolitana-do-porto/ com instituições públicas) mas cujo alcance está para lá do objectivo inicial do meu email. Ainda assim, fica a referência. Se vire na wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services#Public_Transport do osm há bons pontos de partida para poder planear rotas em tp com base nas rotas do osm. Mas o ingrediente base precisa de lá estar: boas rotas e info sobre horários - vêesta http://mobilidade.inf.ufrgs.br/viajetrifacil/ implementação em Curitiba do Abraço, Miguel Borges. No dia 19 de dezembro de 2014 às 14:31, Gonçalo Lourenço cnog...@gmail.com mailto:cnog...@gmail.com escreveu: Viva Miguel Já pediste essa informação aos TUB? Tenho a certeza que se quisessem, ou pudessem, te arranjavam isso. Aliás, porque não solicitar ao regulador (IMT) a disponibilização dos dados SIGGESC http://www.imtt.pt/sites/IMTT/Portugues/Noticias/Paginas/UtilizacaodoSIGGESCpelosoperadoresdetransportepublicorodoviariodepassageirosDespachonormativopublicadoemDiariodaRepublica.aspx(com o devido consentimento dos operadores) que a comunidade OSM encarregar-se-ia de manter corretos e atualizados? É um compromisso difícil e exigente mas iria acrescentar imenso valor ao OSM. Com as ferramentas adequadas até podíamos ter um planeador de viagens em TP para todo o território nacional baseado em OSM*** Abraços Gonçalo *** não fui verificar se já existe. Sei que o gmaps não faz ou faz apenas para as regiões do porto e lisboa, o resto é deserto... 2014-12-19 12:44 GMT+00:00 Miguel Borges borges.mig...@gmail.com mailto:borges.mig...@gmail.com: mailto:Talk-pt@openstreetmap.orgOlá a todos, Escrevo-vos para dar conta à comunidade do trabalho que estou a desenvolver e para ver se não colide com o trabalho que algum outro membro esteja a fazer. Ainda um apelo: se alguém quiser dar uma ajuda, é bem-vindo(a)! Meti-me na empreitada de completar as rotas dos transportes urbanos de Braga (TUB) com base na informação publicada no site da empresa transportadora (www.tub.pt http://www.tub.pt) e no meu conhecimento local. A situação actual é a de 15 rotas já criadas, julgo que pelo transportespublicospt, e que de entre as quais 3 estão com problemas de continuidade e todas sem referência ao sentido da rota. Das 55 rotas restantes, já criei 6, pelo que ainda restam 49. Partilho convosco o método que estou a usar para a criação de rotas: 0. Criar relações de rotas, com prioridade às rotas que se estendam por zonas do teritório ainda sem cobertura 1. Começo por acrescentar à relação, os segmentos no sentido da ida 2. Se o segmento é apenas percorrido na ida, marco-o com o role de forward 3. Se o segmento é comum à ida e volta, não lhe marco role 4. Depois de acrescentar todos os segmentos ida e comuns, marco os
Re: [Talk-es] Importación de megalitos
¡Sí señor! Se han portado y han respondido. No pueden pasar un fichero pero sí permiten que tomemos datos de su web. Lo único que piden es que citemos de donde proceden los datos. ¿Bastaría con etiquetar en cada nodo source=nombre? Podría añadir un enlace a la web. Aparte, he encontrado una web (http://www.geoplaner.com) en la que introduciendo las coordenadas WGS84 crea un waypoint en formato GPX que luego importo a JOSM para dibujar encima. ¿Sabeis si tiene JOSM alguna opción para hacer eso directamente sin pasar por esa web? Un saludo El 22 de enero de 2015, 20:13, Alejandro S. alejandro...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, Y luego está, independientemente de la legalidad y calidad de los datos, la moralidad y ética de copiar información que ha generado un tercero sin su permiso. Saludos, Alejandro SUÁREZ On Thu, Jan 22, 2015, 19:51 Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com wrote: Me habeis convencido y me ha quedado claro. Gracias y un saludo. El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:47, Matías Taborda Barroso taborda.barr...@gmail.com escribió: Hola. No es solo ese problema, el principal es el tipo de Licencia de los datos, que no son compatibles con la ODBl de Openstreetmap. A partir de aqui, claro que puedes copiar e incorporarlos a OSM pero tambien podriamos copiar toda la cartografia de Google por ejemplo, y evidentemente no se DEBE... El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:43, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez cruz.bor...@deusto.es escribió: El problema es que hayan puesto alguno a drede mal para pillar si alguien les ha copiado los datos y tengan ganas de llamar a un abogado o equivalente. El día 22 de enero de 2015, 19:38, Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com escribió: En este caso concreto me extrañaría muchísimo que fueran incorrectos. Pertenecen a la Sociedad de Ciencias Aranzadi, muy conocida en el País Vasco y Navarra por su historia y rigor científico. Suelen realizar excavaciones y tienen gente de campo en busca de restos históricos. Si ese es el único problema, problema resuelto ;) El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:20, Luis García Castro lui...@gmail.com escribió: El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:13, Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com escribió: Y yo me pregunto: ¿cuando se considera que estoy infringiendo una licencia? Los datos están expuestos de forma que cualquiera puede echar mano de ellos. Por ejemplo: puedo apuntar las coordenadas, megalito a megalito, y un día ir al monte con mi GPS y localizarlos in situ. No creo que infrinja nada actuando de esa manera ya que en muchas áreas megalíticas hay mapas y carteles informativos para que la gente los visite. ¿Y si en vez de molestarme en ir a localizarlos, los marco directamente en JOSM? ¿Eso sería ilegal? No es solamente un tema legal. Si vas uno a uno y lo compruebas, es correcto porque tú has visto que lo es. Pero imagina si no lo compruebas y la mitad de los datos son incorrectos o inexactos... -- Luis García ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-pt] Rotas dos Transportes Urbanos de Braga
2015-01-28 14:42 GMT-02:00 Marcos Oliveira marcosoliveira.2...@gmail.com: Sabes se existe algum programa/plugin que consiga ler esses ficheiros .txt num formato mais visual? As paradas de ônibus dá para converter bem fácil para o OSM: http://naoliv.iq.unesp.br/osm/tub-paradas.osm ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-cz] relace Novohradské hory (24472)
Mělo by to být opraveno. V multipolygonu netvořily cesty s rolí outer uzavřenou smyčku. Navíc byla relace a zároveň vnější cesty označeny jako landuse=forest. -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Zdeněk Pražák zpra...@seznam.cz Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 28. 1. 2015 18:25:32 Předmět: [Talk-cz] relace Novohradské hory (24472) Všiml jsem si, že se nějak pokazila relace Novohradské hory ( 24472). Nevím jak bych ji měl opravit. Mohl by se na to někdo podívat. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[Talk-it] Uso delle Note
Ogni volta che trovo una strada mancante su OSM posso segnalarlo nelle Note? Ha una effettiva utilità? C'è gente che se le va a vedere? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Uso delle Note
2015-01-28 17:54 GMT+01:00 francesca santarelli sant.france...@gmail.com: Ogni volta che trovo una strada mancante su OSM posso segnalarlo nelle Note? Ha una effettiva utilità? C'è gente che se le va a vedere? chiaramente meno utile di correggerlo direttamente nei dati, e più utile di non fare niente ;-) Direi che ha senso farlo, anche se non si otterranno sempre risposte immediate, le note rimarrano aperte finchè qualcuno le chiude. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] 149 nouvelles communes au format vectoriel au cadastre ?
Le 28/01/2015 20:54, didier2020 a écrit une liste longue comme le bras : 02 02104 BOUFFIGNEREUX (...) 91 91630 VAL-SAINT-GERMAIN (LE) Eh bé :) J'arrive au même chiffre que toi. Ça fait du monde ! On verra demain si ça se voit ici : http://munin.openstreetmap.fr/osm12.free.org/osm104.openstreetmap.fr/bano_rapproche.html vincent ps. dans ta liste il manquait la 149e ligne : Saint-Victor-de-Malcap (30) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Reconnaissance automatique des panneaux routiers ?
Vous serez heureux d'apprendre que Mappilary est allé au bout de son idée : http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2015/01/27/traffic-signs.html Globalement, vous allez sur http://www.mapillary.com/ et vous cherchez une ville. Vous aurez une carte avec les photos disponibles. Vous pouvez ensuite aller en bas à gauche dans les filtres. Puis à droite vous avez un bouton Traffic Signs qui vous montre les panneaux affichés. Pour flatter les contributeurs (qui y sont sensible), les scores sont disponibles dans un onglet du profil. Il semble qu'une API soit disponible sur demande et à moyen terme à tous, si quelqu'un veut se lancer dans une analyse Osmose, il y a de la matière pour détecter quelques millions d'intégrations et/ou correction d'erreurs. Je me demande quelle sera la prochaine étape ! -- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft Le 6 janvier 2015 13:14, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com a écrit : Quelques minutes après votre message, au talk-gb -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Horner ste...@stevenhorner.com Date: Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] View roadsigns in JOSM To: talk...@openstreetmap.org talk...@openstreetmap.org The Mapillary team are working on integration with ScoutSigns, this is what Jan sent from Mapillary: We are actually working on integration with the Scout team. Initially piping our traffic signs detected with our own system into their ScoutSigns JOSM plugin. Potentially deeper integration later on. ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb 2015-01-06 12:53 GMT+01:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jb.holcr...@gmail.com: Un peu tardivement, voici l'endroit où vous pouvez trouver le plugin josm pour ajouter les informations provenant des panneaux de signalisation, je n'ai testé que rapidement, mais je suppose que cela fonctionne bien, mais peu de données disponibles et le plugin ne semble pas (encore?) utiliser mapillary : http://sdkblog.skobbler.com/scoutsign-osm/ -- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft Le 28 décembre 2014 13:37, Yves Pratter yves.prat...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 28 déc. 2014 à 10:54, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Il y a eu pas mal de choses de faites de ce côté, Concrètement pour OSM, qu’est-ce qui existe ? Que peut-on utiliser ? - soit en temps réel ? Une appli qui tourne dans un smartphone et qui enregistrerait une trace, la position approximative du panneau et sa photo… - soit en différé : - on récupère les photos/vidéos de sa caméra embarqué et on lance un logiciel de traitement qui extrait les panneaux - on télécharge ses photos/vidéos sur un site comme Mapillary qui lui fait le travail. Mapillary en parle sur la présentation que j’ai indiqué, mais que font-ils vraiment avec ? Avec ces techniques, on peut donc détecter la présence de panneaux et estimer leur position... et au final compléter les données OSM, Oui je voyais plutôt ce cas. Telenav n’a pas présenté un plugin pour JOSM qui importe les positions des panneaux depuis leur système de vision ? ensuite c'est une info qu'il faut croiser avec d'autres de façon automatique quand c'est possible Est-ce que feu les DDE ou les grandes agglomérations pensent à ouvrir leurs bases en Open Data ? sûrement pas par import mais par la mise à disposition de cette source supplémentaire d’information. Dans Osmose ? ;-) — Yves ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-hr] Reorganizacija...
U planu su mi još 3 repozitorija: ==www-data== Nešto oku ugodnije od trenutnog izgleda Nešto u stilu http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/croatia.html za http://data.osm-hr.org/croatia/ I tako za svaku drzavu tamo http://data.osm-hr.org/albania/ http://data.osm-hr.org/bosnia-herzegovina/ http://data.osm-hr.org/bulgaria/ ... Slično i za grupne ekstrakte u osm.pbf, garmin i gis formatima http://data.osm-hr.org/osm/ http://data.osm-hr.org/garmin/ http://data.osm-hr.org/statistike/ http://data.osm-hr.org/irclogs/ ... Sadržaj je pretežno statičan pa nisu potrebne velike promjene. ==www-tms== Tu bi mogli staviti i one custom vektorske slojeve što smo pričali prije. Sadržaj je pretežno statičan pa nisu potrebne velike promjene. ==osm-replikator== Možda je najbolje cjeli trenutni replikacija folder na serveru ubaciti u github i onda ovdje dalje uređivati, tako da kasnije lako možemo povući promjene. Samo prvo moram saznati kako ignorirati određene foldere i fajlove. Nema smisla arhivu *.pbf stavljati an hithub, nego samo skripte i konfiguracije. Moram prije toga nešto mjenjati u strukturi foldera. Za sve ovo trebam vašu pomoć!!! Dražen i Matija imaju pristup serveru i mogu izvoditi promjene a ostali za sad mogu preko github-a pomoći. Pozdrav Hrvoje ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [OSM-talk] Usage without attribution: US Geological Survey
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Found it here while checking out a nearby earthquake I was notified about... http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000tiqz#general_map The Street layer of the map is very clearly taking tiles from Mapquest Open (spotted at relatively low zoom over tulsa due to Mapquest lagging months behind on that zoom over parts of I 244 and I 44 which were tagged during major construction operations as recently as last fall in a manner that which that renderer didn't understand, leaving gaps over the Arkansas River on 244 and Midtown Tulsa near Lewis Avenue on I 44); confirmed by zooming in deeper around the BOK Center in downtown Tulsa with a pretty high level of detail of the block the arena is on itself along with a number of city sidewalks from changesets I uploaded in the last week). Legal page is 404. About Us doesn't seem to mention anything either. No attribution on map itself. Only the Street layer appears to be from OSM data. Paul, I can verify that the street view is OSM. I added some service roads near my house which would normally show on a typical map. Do you want to contact them? Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [tag] musée d'art
/Heureusement que j'ai dit que ne pas traduire les dernières conneries du wiki anglais avait parfois du bon/ *@pieren* J'ai traduit cela le 16 Janvier et non le 27 ... /Le 15/01/2015 17:17, althio althio a écrit :// /// ///Mais la documentation en français n'existe pas [1,2] / = /Le fait que certains musées aient le mot gallery dans leur nom anglais peut ajouter à la confusion. (ex National Gallery) / /Ca n'est pas parce que le nom contient le mot gallery que ça n'est pas un musée. Peut-être cette lecture pour aider: //http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-an-art-gallery-and-museum/ et /La National Gallery à Londres est bien un musée et non une simple galerie. / Je suis d'accord dans les deux cas. Je ne disais pas qu'il ne s'agissait pas de musées mais que le fait qu'il y ait le mot gallery dans leur nom ajoutait à la confusion générale. C'est tout. Ça n'allait pas plus loin c'était un constat. Mes guillemets à /musées/ n'étaient aucunement péjoratifs. Je me suis certainement mal exprimé. *@ althio * pour le plan de bataille je te laisses faire puisque tu l'as ! Je ne saurais le mettre en œuvre. Pour les galeries au sens d’exposition non permanente Oui ok j'ai écrit trop vite / / /En fait vu le nombre de faux-positifs et faux-négatifs autour de tourism=gallery ... je suis plutôt réticent à le ré-utiliser même avec des descriptions détaillées dans le wiki/ Faudrait t-il se rapprocher de cela ? https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galerie_d%27art ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] Quay
2015-01-26 21:16 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com: On 26/01/2015 19:23, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: man_made=quay anyone ? To quote the IHO dictionary: quay. A WHARF approximately parallel to the SHORELINE and accommodating ships on one side only, the other side being attached to the SHORE. It is usually of solid construction, as contrasted with the open pile construction usually used for PIERS. So yes, your reasoning is correct that section of the coastline that forms the quay could indeed be tagged man_made=quay. -1, the text you're quoting says something quite different, my interpretation how to map it in OSM: either draw it as an area (with indeed the shoreline overlapping at one side), or draw it as a linear feature on its center (like we do for highways). In this case the way would be parallel to the coastline. In both variants you won't have the quay and coastline tags on the same object in OSM. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations
Am 13.01.2015 um 21:29 schrieb Wolfgang Zenker: ... In Montana I have removed rather than changed these POIs, as they definitely no longer existed before the GNIS import. Removing these for all of the US would be a good thing, especially for hospitals. We definitely don't want people in an emergency to end up in the middle of an empty field because they followed their navigation device to Podunk Hospital (historical). ... According to overpass turbo there is the small number of 394 such nodes (historical hospitals) remaining in the US (excluding Alaska and Hawaii). Given that this is bad data that actually might have disastrous consequences, I would suggest that fixing these (and other GNIS junk that might be misleading) has a slightly higher priority than updating population numbers. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment afficher les noms de lieux en français sur toute la planète ?
Le rendu FR utilise en priorité les noms en français (name:fr=*) puis ceux en anglais ou internationaux... et à défaut c'est le name=* qui est utilisé. Bien sûr, il faut qu'ils soient renseignés... et c'est loin d'être le cas partout. Le 27/01/2015 08:05, Pierre Knobel a écrit : Le lien : http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/ On 1/26/15, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Sinon pour voir l'existant tu peux utiliser la carte du rendu OSM francophone (qu'on voit sur plusieurs outils francophones comme Osmose ou Layers). Le 26 janvier 2015 22:27, Lionel Allorge lionel.allo...@lunerouge.org a écrit : Bonjour, Est-il possible de faire afficher les noms de lieux en français sur toute la planète lorsque l'on navigue sur OSM ? Merci d'avance. Bonne continuation. -- ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment afficher les noms de lieux en français sur toute la planète ?
nomino semble être un peu bugué par contre. Florian Le Mercredi 28 janvier 2015 15h47, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Le rendu FR utilise en priorité les noms en français (name:fr=*) puis ceux en anglais ou internationaux... et à défaut c'est le name=* qui est utilisé. Bien sûr, il faut qu'ils soient renseignés... et c'est loin d'être le cas partout. Le 27/01/2015 08:05, Pierre Knobel a écrit : Le lien : http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/ On 1/26/15, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Sinon pour voir l'existant tu peux utiliser la carte du rendu OSM francophone (qu'on voit sur plusieurs outils francophones comme Osmose ou Layers). Le 26 janvier 2015 22:27, Lionel Allorge lionel.allo...@lunerouge.org a écrit : Bonjour, Est-il possible de faire afficher les noms de lieux en français sur toute la planète lorsque l'on navigue sur OSM ? Merci d'avance. Bonne continuation. -- ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [tag] musée d'art
Effectivement, pas uniquement la Galerie des glaces. Mais cet ensemble incluant les jardins devrait être mieux délimité et ses diverses composantes décrites. Comment décrire adéquatement un tel ensemble et ses composantes. Est-ce qu'une relation Chateau de Versailles comprenant ses différents éléments serait d'une quelconque utilité? Pierre De : Christian Rogel christian.ro...@club-internet.fr À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr; Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 28 janvier 2015 8h58 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [tag] musée d'art Le 28 janv. 2015 à 14:39, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Cela me fait penser à la Galerie des glaces au chateau de Versailles! L'ajouter et y ajouter un attribut musée? Et incidemment, l'entité Chateau, c'est plus que l'immeuble principal. Il y aurait beaucoup de travail à faire là aussi. Le portail d'entrée notamment est simplement représenté par une clé barrier=gate. Pas bien compris : le château principal, le Grand Trianon, le hameau de la Reine et le parc sont un musée en totalité, sauf certains bâtiments (La Lanterne, par ex.), pourquoi faire un cas de la Galerie des Glaces, uniquement pour une collision linguistique ? Christian R. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
That's because Companies House are the official legal arbiters of who is, or is not, a legally trading company and thus have the ultimate responsibility. On 28 Jan 2015, at 14:44, Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: [snip] I guess we might need to be a little careful: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/one-spelling-error-costs-companies-house-up-to-9-million-after-being-sued-for-ruining-business-10007372.html -- Steve --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
And car manufacturers are legally responsible for 4 deaths every year? They'd soon be out of business if so. I can't believe that lending your neighbour a piece of equipment in good working order would make you responsible for injury. If you knew it was damaged, however, and did not make your neighbour aware of this fact, then yes, you most likely would be liable. On 28 Jan 2015, at 14:24, Pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: A 10 year old who buys cigarettes might conceivably accidentally smoke them. On 28 January 2015 at 14:21, Phillip Barnett phillip.p.barn...@gmail.com wrote: So all shopkeepers are liable if they sell a hedge trimmer to someone who then cuts off their fingers? I would be very surprised if that was the case On 28 Jan 2015, at 13:52, Pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: On 28 January 2015 at 12:10, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: Do we need an OSM disclaimer The copyright page does include: Inclusion of data in OpenStreetMap does not imply that the original data provider endorses OpenStreetMap, provides any warranty, or accepts any liability. http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb They would say you made information available to others for the purpose of them using that information, you cannot deny some liability for when people use that information (whether rightly or wrongly) In UK law, if you lend a neighbour your ladder and hedge trimmer, if he cuts his fingers off as he falls from the ladder, you can be held liable for lending him the gear. Basically, on doing the lending you have a duty to assess whether he's capable of using the gear safely. -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via the area's premier website - currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets TCs ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via the area's premier website - currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets TCs ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione
Aggiungo che la mappa mostrata dal sito dei Carabinieri è presa da dati vecchiotti Alessandro Pozzato ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione
2014-12-09 9:53 GMT+01:00 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Wikimedia è diventata ufficialmente il local chapter o no? Se si ha degli avvocati a disposizione? Luca, hai ottenuto una risposta a questa domanda? ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
If you sold the ladder to your neighbour, you'd be ok cos then it'd be his ladder to do what he wanted with it - and you'd lose the liability as you couldn't prevent him doing whatever he likes with his ladder. That's the big difference. Best thing then is only to *sell *info on OSM map.. On 28 January 2015 at 15:20, Phillip Barnett phillip.p.barn...@gmail.com wrote: And car manufacturers are legally responsible for 4 deaths every year? They'd soon be out of business if so. I can't believe that lending your neighbour a piece of equipment in good working order would make you responsible for injury. If you knew it was damaged, however, and did not make your neighbour aware of this fact, then yes, you most likely would be liable. On 28 Jan 2015, at 14:24, Pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: A 10 year old who buys cigarettes might conceivably accidentally smoke them. On 28 January 2015 at 14:21, Phillip Barnett phillip.p.barn...@gmail.com wrote: So all shopkeepers are liable if they sell a hedge trimmer to someone who then cuts off their fingers? I would be very surprised if that was the case On 28 Jan 2015, at 13:52, Pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: On 28 January 2015 at 12:10, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: Do we need an OSM disclaimer The copyright page does include: Inclusion of data in OpenStreetMap does not imply that the original data provider endorses OpenStreetMap, provides any warranty, or accepts any liability. http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb They would say you made information available to others for the purpose of them using that information, you cannot deny some liability for when people use that information (whether rightly or wrongly) In UK law, if you lend a neighbour your ladder and hedge trimmer, if he cuts his fingers off as he falls from the ladder, you can be held liable for lending him the gear. Basically, on doing the lending you have a duty to assess whether he's capable of using the gear safely. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
On 28/01/15 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: Do we need an OSM disclaimer -- I've just had a mail from a gentleman enquiring why an underground powerline http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/127968407/history#map=17/51.50283/-2.55462 was drawn on OSM -- as he didn't want to buy a house on top of it and Western Power told him the powerline couldn't be there! I think he joined OSM just to message me?!? When I lived in Hillingdon I wanted to build a garage at the bottom of the garden. The OS maps showed a storm water drain running through the next property and under the track behind where I wanted to build. I had to dig down and show that we were clear of that drain ... except it was 6' further over ... right under the corner of the garage. So now there is a wooden porch which can be taken down if they need access. Bottom line - even the OS maps can't be taken as accurate! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Rilevamento automatico segnali stradali Mapillary
Con questo sistema si potrebbero prendere due piccioni con una fava https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a44Ypwft9E8 -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Rilevamento-automatico-segnali-stradali-Mapillary-tp5831638p5831770.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Mappatori di Mapbox all'opera per migliorare i dati
Ho notato diversi utenti che lavorano per Mapbox, ad esempio http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/calfarome http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dannykath cercano di migliorare i dati con l'uso di tools, secondo voi fanno un buon lavoro? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-ca] Help Importing York Region Data to OpenStreetMap
You should not proceed with this import. The plan description on the wiki has several show-stopper problems. From a quick scan of the wiki: - multiple users on one account. Don't do that. :-) Each of your employees who try to edit OpenStreetMap must have their own accounts. Pro Tip: Have them use their real names, and not something like York Region GIS Team #1 We OpenStreetMap contributors are real live humans, not faceless administrative drones, even if we play the role of faceless administrative drone at work. - parcels. Parcel data is contentious and problematic in OpenStreetMap. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parcel - there are likely other problems. This plan needs careful, expert review. Have any of your employees contributed to OpenStreetMap outside of this project? If not, they may be in for a tough learning curve. Importing data is not for a newcomer. You should have years of real OpenStreetMap experience before attempting an import. If the OpenStreetMap community takes an interest in the York Region data they will convert, conflate, adapt, correct it, and then contribute it to OpenStreetMap. So you don't have to go crazy with your limited regional budget. The volunteers / experts will do it. Do you have Open Data for building outlines? Building outline data is widely accepted in OpenStreetMap as being useful and worthwhile. Building outlines make a better home for address point data than a disembodied point, or a parcel centroid / parcel outline. Do you have newer and or higher resolution aerial imagery? ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a dedicated box so work can start. Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for dedicated use by OSM India. I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now. Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders? Best, Shekhar On 01/29/15 02:52, Alex Barth wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community? Mikel, any thoughts? Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a dedicated box so work can start. Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for dedicated use by OSM India. I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now. Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders? Hi Shekhar, S o what is the plan now are we going to use the HBCSE setup or create a new one ? i have asked Johnson for credentials on the present server , may be we can use it as a staging server. thanks -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
As a staff member of HBCSE, I request that we not rely on this server, as we're moving towards off-site hosting for anything but lab experiments. This is not appropriate for community use. S.K. On 01/29/15 05:28, Johnson Chetty wrote: Hello, Sorry for the extended silence. FWIW: The Indian OSM Tile server was done quite a while back, around April 2014. Dr. Nagarjun, HBCSE had given us a machine in HBCSE and it was serving away all the same. It's has been just sitting the same way until Dec. end when we recommissioned it for tree mapping. http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html Local tiles for India with minutely updates were enabled as well, though not needed i believe. Have just changed it to nightly. The machine specs are: Ubuntu 12.04 8 x 1.4GHz cores 8 GB RAM Roughly around 850GB The server has been recommisioned, as there were no further updates. Arun and Satyakam both have logins on the machine already. If we want to get things up on an interim basis, we can do so with the setup and get up styling enabled for it. Atleast we have some thing ready somewhere, so the designers can try stuff out. Cheers, On 29 January 2015 at 02:52, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com mailto:a...@mapbox.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community? Mikel, any thoughts? Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
Hi All! After we are agreed on this, can we put our minds on how to improve details and user contribution on OSM? A hell lot of work is still left, much, much is unmapped. I can see JustDial too beginning to use OSM but how can sleep speed up the mapping itself? Blackberry has the world's best email experience. On 29-Jan-2015, at 9:43 am, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a dedicated box so work can start. Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for dedicated use by OSM India. I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now. Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders? Best, Shekhar On 01/29/15 02:52, Alex Barth wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com mailto:shek...@topomancy.com wrote: Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community? Mikel, any thoughts? Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On 01/29/15 10:00, satyaakam goswami wrote: Hi Shekhar, S o what is the plan now are we going to use the HBCSE setup or create a new one ? Create a new one. Sanjay and I will follow up when he's up and online today or soon. i have asked Johnson for credentials on the present server , may be we can use it as a staging server. My recommendation is to not use it at all except for purely temporary purposes. S.K. thanks -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/| fossevents.in http://fossevents.in/ | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
A hell lot of work is still left, much, much is unmapped. I can see JustDial too beginning to use OSM but how can sleep speed up the mapping itself? great to hear from you , have a Mapping party wherever you are , may be start a new thread on the topic , make some noise we will all try to be there . cheers -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
On 29 January 2015 at 10:06, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com wrote: On 01/29/15 10:00, satyaakam goswami wrote: Hi Shekhar, S o what is the plan now are we going to use the HBCSE setup or create a new one ? Create a new one. Sanjay and I will follow up when he's up and online today or soon. i have asked Johnson for credentials on the present server , may be we can use it as a staging server. My recommendation is to not use it at all except for purely temporary purposes. The machine I guess should be now used on an interim basis (unless Dr. Nagarjun indicates otherwise) Feel free to use it until we get a new machine (hopefully soon) We are running a tree mapping service (trees.metastudio.org) which will use the tile service. We plan to get some foliage/greenery specific stylesheets for the tile server. So the tile service will be running nonetheless. S.K. thanks -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/| fossevents.in http://fossevents.in/ | ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan @bombayologist http://shekhar.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] Uso delle Note
Il 28/gen/2015 17:54 francesca santarelli sant.france...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ogni volta che trovo una strada mancante su OSM posso segnalarlo nelle Note? Si Ha una effettiva utilità? C'è gente che se le va a vedere? Secondo me sono utili, io per esempio le controllo abbastanza spesso ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mancanza attribuzione
Il 28/gen/2015 16:26 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2014-12-09 9:53 GMT+01:00 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Wikimedia è diventata ufficialmente il local chapter o no? Se si ha degli avvocati a disposizione? Luca, hai ottenuto una risposta a questa domanda? Martin direi di no... ciao, Martin Ciao Luca ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-dk] Nu er der da gået helt galt med adresseknuderne
Beklager, jeg ved ikke lige hvad der er sket her. Jeg for problemet løst inden for den næste halve time Mvh Stephen Den 29. januar 2015 kl. 07.20 skrev Niels Elgaard Larsen elga...@agol.dk: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/55.87609/12.49951 Men en flot cirkel: Det er da godt, at adresseknuderne ikke længere hænger på veje og huse: -- Niels Elgaard Larsen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-it] accesso percorsi interni a villaggio turistico
l'alternativa potrebbe essere access=destination così da li passerebbero solo gli utenti che hanno imposto la strada del resort come effettiva destinazione (mi aspetto che siano solo i clienti)...ma non so se sia formalmente corretto...non vorrei venisse considerato un mappare per il software di routing che è errato quasi quanto il mappare per il render :/ - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/accesso-percorsi-interni-a-villaggio-turistico-tp5831413p5831788.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-dk] Nu er der da gået helt galt med adresseknuderne
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/55.87609/12.49951 Men en flot cirkel: Det er da godt, at adresseknuderne ikke længere hænger på veje og huse: -- Niels Elgaard Larsen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose
C'est conseillé comme usage ces fr:urban ? Le 28 janv. 2015 14:41, Jérôme Amagat jerome.ama...@gmail.com a écrit : ça ne changera jamais pour toute la France (enfin j’espère). Si ça change pour une commune il faudra créer une relation comme ça (Pour la France c'est ici : http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/934933) plutôt que de changer les limitations sur chaque rue? ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Bar in cui giocare/fare scommesse
2015-01-25 18:49 GMT+01:00 girarsi_liste liste.gira...@gmail.com: amenity=cafè leisure=adult_gaming_centre gambling=* no, leisure=adult_gaming_centre costituisce un feature da solo, non è un bar con macchinette, ma è una sala giochi. C'è questa pagina reassuntiva per alcune tipologie di gioco: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gambling ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Rilevamento automatico segnali stradali Mapillary
Aspettiamo la risposta a Vincent vedi la sua domanda su http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2015/01/27/traffic-signs.html (probabilmente successiva alla tua segnalazione qua in lista) 2015-01-28 7:28 GMT+01:00 John Doe theguest...@gmail.com: http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2015/01/27/traffic-signs.html cosa ne pensate? se Mapillary permettesse anche l'import automatico su OSM dei segnali stradali rilevati sarebbe spettacolare. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Segnali stradali
-Original Message- From: Rallysta74 [mailto:rallyst...@gmail.com] Sent: mercoledì 28 gennaio 2015 10:11 To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-it] Segnali stradali Guardando in giro sulla wiki ho visto che in alcune nazioni sono state inserite le preimpostazioni per diversi segnali stradali. Per l'Italia c'è qualcosa di utilizzabile o dobbiamo inventarci le assegnazioni? Salvo aggiornamenti di cui non sono a conoscenza, per i segnali stradali il Codice della Strada fa riferimento alle figure degli allegati grafici al Titolo II. Tali allegati grafici sono stati pubblicati sulla gazzetta ufficiale (serie generale n° 303 del 28-12-1992 - Supplemento Ordinario n° 134, pagine dalla 193 alla 383). Il documento si può scaricare in formato pdf dal sito della gazzetta ufficiale [1]. Le figure riportano una numerazione univoca, un riferimento all'articolo del codice della strada in cui sono citate, oltre a un nome descrittivo (che però può essere comune a più figure, cioè a diverse varianti del cartello). Per l'identificazione è sufficiente la numerazione univoca della figura. Per i pannelli integrativi (pag. 237-244) le figure sono identificate dal testo Modello II seguito da una sigla alfanumerica. Es: Modello II 5/a2 continua. Per tutti gli altri segnali (pag. 245-343) le figure sono identificate dal testo Figura II seguito da una sigla alfanumerica. Es: Figura II 10/b. Per concisione, proporrei di usare come identificativo del segnale in OSM la sola sigla alfanumerica della figura. Secondo gli esempi riportati sul wiki [2], l'identificativo dei pannelli integrativi segue, separato da una virgola, l'identificativo del cartello cui si riferisce. Esempi: - discesa pericolosa con pendenza 10% (confronta gazzetta ufficiale pag. 249): traffic_sign=IT:15[10] - divieto di accesso con pannello integrativo eccetto autobus (confronta gazzetta ufficiale pag. 259 e 238): traffic_sign=IT:47,4/b[bus] Ambiguità potrebbero sorgere solo se capitasse di trovare autonomamente un segnale elencato tra i pannelli integrativi, alla cui sigla alfanumerica corrisponde anche un segnale di altro tipo (esistenza tanto di Modello II xxx quanto di Figura II xxx). Una tale sovrapposizione capita solo nel caso seguente: Modello II 7 (andamento della strada principale, pag 243) ; Figura II 7 (doppia curva prima a sinistra, pag. 246). Non ho presente se il segnale Modello II 7 si trovi anche autonomamente. In alternativa, per evitare ambiguità si potrebbe decidere di usare il testo completo (esempio: traffic_sign=IT: Figura II 47, Modello II 4/b[bus]), o qualche versione abbreviata. [1] http://www.gazzettaufficiale.it/do/gazzetta/downloadPdf?dataPubblicazioneGazzetta=19921228numeroGazzetta=303tipoSerie=SGtipoSupplemento=SOnumeroSupplemento=134estensione=pdfedizione=0 [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_sign#Traffic_sign_IDs Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it-lazio] [Bibliotecari] Open Culture Atlas: che strada possiamo fare insieme?
Ciao a tutti. Rinfocolo la mia email iniziale in cui proponevo una presa di responsabilità reciproca e un coinvolgimento comune, con una riflessione ulteriore sul senso di OSM Italia, sul suo ruolo. Parto da una cosa noiosa eppure potenzialmente utile come la mia esperienza di utilizzo e di socia (che per il 2015 non ha ancora rinnovato, ci sto riflettendo). Pur non partecipando granché alle discussioni OSM sul web e fuori (ieri ero al Maptime Roma, una decina di persone massimo, mi sa che ero l'unica a non aver mai mappato) sono una forte sostenitrice delle mappe libere, sia in teoria che in pratica con la fatica che faccio per ovviare ai buchi informativi di OSM su Open Culture Atlas. Sono competente in comunicazione, di codice e tecnicismi per ora ho scelto di non occuparmi (non per disinteresse ma perché per fare bene almeno qualcosa bisogna escludere altro). È da Osmit 2014 che cerco, con alterno impegno, un'occasione per imparare a mappare bene. Per coerenza; perché non uso OSM solo per convenienza; perché mi piacerebbe poterne diffondere l'uso. Ma niente: non sono ancora riuscita a trovare un mapping party, mappathon o simile a cui partecipare. Il wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Italy dove dovrebbero comparire è quasi sempre deserto, e seguire sempre la mailing list risulta difficile. Di sicuro qualche altra pagina c'è, e volendo seguire 5-6 fonti diverse forse l'informazione ti arriva: ma non si può chiedere questo sforzo a chi già non è stracoinvolto. La mia proposta un po' folle forse è lanciare insieme (wikipedia, osm, open culture atlas, oppure solo le ultime due, più piccole, ma forse proprio per questo sarebbe bene legarle) una proposta strutturata e pervasiva di mappa/edithon a istituzioni, centri culturali, di tutta Italia: un'ora intensiva di pratica in cui ci sia un rapporto di almeno 1:3 tra tutor e allievi, o tutto diventa troppo top-down e poco utile. Ogni allievo del primo evento può impegnarsi a fare da tutor nelle sessioni successive - che so, una ogni 6 mesi per ogni località ospitante) in modo da progredire e mantenere desta l'attenzione. Io potrei fare la mia parte impegnandomi in un* piano di semplificazione sia nella comunicazione comune sia nel metodo di insegnamento ai profani*. Mi sono fatta l'idea, ascoltando e leggendo, che questa sia una debolezza di OSM, non sapere ancora comunicare con chi non è già supernerd. Ovviamente non si tratta di uno sforzo organizzativo e promozionale da poco, e non so se qualcuno abbia interesse, tempo e competenze adeguate. Risorse: ce ne sono? esiste qualche grant delle fondazioni Wiki/OSM? Altrimenti fundraising a manetta, io sto già studiando la materia. Per ora passo e chiudo, spero di leggere tanti riscontri, anche tirate di capo se vi pare che io sia fuori strada rispetto ai vostri obiettivi. OSM è un'occasione per smanettare e imparare eccezionale, ma vogliamo anche che si affermi come reale alternativa? Scusate se sono stata un po' arrogante forse, da neofita quale sono, ma in queste cose o tutto o niente, e a volte chi ne sa meno ha un punto di vista utile :) Magari voi avete idee diverse che posso sposare o mi potete spiegare cosa già si sta facendo in questa stessa direzione che io non so. Francesca Il giorno 28 gennaio 2015 11:11, Pierfranco Minsenti pierfranco.minse...@gmail.com ha scritto: Grazie dell'informazione sulla data del 16. Pierfranco Il giorno 28 gennaio 2015 11:09, francesca santarelli sant.france...@gmail.com ha scritto: Pierfranco, penso sia una battaglia comune con i wikimediani quella di fare presente certe istanze alle istituzioni. Proprio sul tema del rapporto tra istituzioni culturali ed etica il socio Marco Goldin dovrebbe fare un intervento a Ca' Foscari il 16 febbraio, beato chi potrà esserci :) Francesca Il giorno 27 gennaio 2015 15:19, Pierfranco Minsenti pierfranco.minse...@gmail.com ha scritto: Oggi su Wired si parla di Open Culture Atlas, proposto come alternativa già pronta e più interessante rispetto a verybello.it (l'articolo è una recensione critica di verybello.it). «Dalle parti di chi quel progetto l’ha concepito, realizzato e promosso è normale che ci si pongano delle domande, il cui tono è quanto mai costruttivo: «In un paese con così poche – lamentate – risorse dedicabili alla cultura (che è “solo” quello sfaccettato insieme di comportamenti e azioni che tengono insieme la capacità individuale e collettiva di rinnovare il senso del nostro vivere), e con così intensa (suppletiva) attività dell’associazionismo e del volontariato culturale, sembra paradossale che a livello istituzionale non si cominci a fare l’unica cosa logica da fare: cercare e valorizzare l’esistente. Come avrebbe potuto essere, e ancora potrebbe, per il progetto no profit che andiamo costruendo e migliorando da mesi, Open Culture Atlas. » #VeryBello, l’ennesima “storia italiana”, articolo di di Federico Chesi:
Re: [Talk-it] [Bibliotecari] Open Culture Atlas: che strada possiamo fare insieme?
Ciao a tutti. Rinfocolo la mia email iniziale in cui proponevo una presa di responsabilità reciproca e un coinvolgimento comune, con una riflessione ulteriore sul senso di OSM Italia, sul suo ruolo. Parto da una cosa noiosa eppure potenzialmente utile come la mia esperienza di utilizzo e di socia (che per il 2015 non ha ancora rinnovato, ci sto riflettendo). Pur non partecipando granché alle discussioni OSM sul web e fuori (ieri ero al Maptime Roma, una decina di persone massimo, mi sa che ero l'unica a non aver mai mappato) sono una forte sostenitrice delle mappe libere, sia in teoria che in pratica con la fatica che faccio per ovviare ai buchi informativi di OSM su Open Culture Atlas. Sono competente in comunicazione, di codice e tecnicismi per ora ho scelto di non occuparmi (non per disinteresse ma perché per fare bene almeno qualcosa bisogna escludere altro). È da Osmit 2014 che cerco, con alterno impegno, un'occasione per imparare a mappare bene. Per coerenza; perché non uso OSM solo per convenienza; perché mi piacerebbe poterne diffondere l'uso. Ma niente: non sono ancora riuscita a trovare un mapping party, mappathon o simile a cui partecipare. Il wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Italy dove dovrebbero comparire è quasi sempre deserto, e seguire sempre la mailing list risulta difficile. Di sicuro qualche altra pagina c'è, e volendo seguire 5-6 fonti diverse forse l'informazione ti arriva: ma non si può chiedere questo sforzo a chi già non è stracoinvolto. La mia proposta un po' folle forse è lanciare insieme (wikipedia, osm, open culture atlas, oppure solo le ultime due, più piccole, ma forse proprio per questo sarebbe bene legarle) una proposta strutturata e pervasiva di mappa/edithon a istituzioni, centri culturali, di tutta Italia: un'ora intensiva di pratica in cui ci sia un rapporto di almeno 1:3 tra tutor e allievi, o tutto diventa troppo top-down e poco utile. Ogni allievo del primo evento può impegnarsi a fare da tutor nelle sessioni successive - che so, una ogni 6 mesi per ogni località ospitante) in modo da progredire e mantenere desta l'attenzione. Io potrei fare la mia parte impegnandomi in un* piano di semplificazione sia nella comunicazione comune sia nel metodo di insegnamento ai profani*. Mi sono fatta l'idea, ascoltando e leggendo, che questa sia una debolezza di OSM, non sapere ancora comunicare con chi non è già supernerd. Ovviamente non si tratta di uno sforzo organizzativo e promozionale da poco, e non so se qualcuno abbia interesse, tempo e competenze adeguate. Risorse: ce ne sono? esiste qualche grant delle fondazioni Wiki/OSM? Altrimenti fundraising a manetta, io sto già studiando la materia. Per ora passo e chiudo, spero di leggere tanti riscontri, anche tirate di capo se vi pare che io sia fuori strada rispetto ai vostri obiettivi. OSM è un'occasione per smanettare e imparare eccezionale, ma vogliamo anche che si affermi come reale alternativa? Scusate se sono stata un po' arrogante forse, da neofita quale sono, ma in queste cose o tutto o niente, e a volte chi ne sa meno ha un punto di vista utile :) Magari voi avete idee diverse che posso sposare o mi potete spiegare cosa già si sta facendo in questa stessa direzione che io non so. Francesca Il giorno 28 gennaio 2015 11:11, Pierfranco Minsenti pierfranco.minse...@gmail.com ha scritto: Grazie dell'informazione sulla data del 16. Pierfranco Il giorno 28 gennaio 2015 11:09, francesca santarelli sant.france...@gmail.com ha scritto: Pierfranco, penso sia una battaglia comune con i wikimediani quella di fare presente certe istanze alle istituzioni. Proprio sul tema del rapporto tra istituzioni culturali ed etica il socio Marco Goldin dovrebbe fare un intervento a Ca' Foscari il 16 febbraio, beato chi potrà esserci :) Francesca Il giorno 27 gennaio 2015 15:19, Pierfranco Minsenti pierfranco.minse...@gmail.com ha scritto: Oggi su Wired si parla di Open Culture Atlas, proposto come alternativa già pronta e più interessante rispetto a verybello.it (l'articolo è una recensione critica di verybello.it). «Dalle parti di chi quel progetto l’ha concepito, realizzato e promosso è normale che ci si pongano delle domande, il cui tono è quanto mai costruttivo: «In un paese con così poche – lamentate – risorse dedicabili alla cultura (che è “solo” quello sfaccettato insieme di comportamenti e azioni che tengono insieme la capacità individuale e collettiva di rinnovare il senso del nostro vivere), e con così intensa (suppletiva) attività dell’associazionismo e del volontariato culturale, sembra paradossale che a livello istituzionale non si cominci a fare l’unica cosa logica da fare: cercare e valorizzare l’esistente. Come avrebbe potuto essere, e ancora potrebbe, per il progetto no profit che andiamo costruendo e migliorando da mesi, Open Culture Atlas. » #VeryBello, l’ennesima “storia italiana”, articolo di di Federico Chesi:
Re: [Talk-it] [Bibliotecari] Open Culture Atlas: che strada possiamo fare insieme?
PS Sono a conoscenza di http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Beginners%27_Guide ma secondo me non va bene per un profano assoluto che non vive al pc h24: serve imparare da una persona che ti trasmetta insieme alle informazioni il loro valore. Serve entrare in empatia con il metodo. Il giorno 28 gennaio 2015 17:29, francesca santarelli sant.france...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao a tutti. Rinfocolo la mia email iniziale in cui proponevo una presa di responsabilità reciproca e un coinvolgimento comune, con una riflessione ulteriore sul senso di OSM Italia, sul suo ruolo. Parto da una cosa noiosa eppure potenzialmente utile come la mia esperienza di utilizzo e di socia (che per il 2015 non ha ancora rinnovato, ci sto riflettendo). Pur non partecipando granché alle discussioni OSM sul web e fuori (ieri ero al Maptime Roma, una decina di persone massimo, mi sa che ero l'unica a non aver mai mappato) sono una forte sostenitrice delle mappe libere, sia in teoria che in pratica con la fatica che faccio per ovviare ai buchi informativi di OSM su Open Culture Atlas. Sono competente in comunicazione, di codice e tecnicismi per ora ho scelto di non occuparmi (non per disinteresse ma perché per fare bene almeno qualcosa bisogna escludere altro). È da Osmit 2014 che cerco, con alterno impegno, un'occasione per imparare a mappare bene. Per coerenza; perché non uso OSM solo per convenienza; perché mi piacerebbe poterne diffondere l'uso. Ma niente: non sono ancora riuscita a trovare un mapping party, mappathon o simile a cui partecipare. Il wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Italy dove dovrebbero comparire è quasi sempre deserto, e seguire sempre la mailing list risulta difficile. Di sicuro qualche altra pagina c'è, e volendo seguire 5-6 fonti diverse forse l'informazione ti arriva: ma non si può chiedere questo sforzo a chi già non è stracoinvolto. La mia proposta un po' folle forse è lanciare insieme (wikipedia, osm, open culture atlas, oppure solo le ultime due, più piccole, ma forse proprio per questo sarebbe bene legarle) una proposta strutturata e pervasiva di mappa/edithon a istituzioni, centri culturali, di tutta Italia: un'ora intensiva di pratica in cui ci sia un rapporto di almeno 1:3 tra tutor e allievi, o tutto diventa troppo top-down e poco utile. Ogni allievo del primo evento può impegnarsi a fare da tutor nelle sessioni successive - che so, una ogni 6 mesi per ogni località ospitante) in modo da progredire e mantenere desta l'attenzione. Io potrei fare la mia parte impegnandomi in un* piano di semplificazione sia nella comunicazione comune sia nel metodo di insegnamento ai profani*. Mi sono fatta l'idea, ascoltando e leggendo, che questa sia una debolezza di OSM, non sapere ancora comunicare con chi non è già supernerd. Ovviamente non si tratta di uno sforzo organizzativo e promozionale da poco, e non so se qualcuno abbia interesse, tempo e competenze adeguate. Risorse: ce ne sono? esiste qualche grant delle fondazioni Wiki/OSM? Altrimenti fundraising a manetta, io sto già studiando la materia. Per ora passo e chiudo, spero di leggere tanti riscontri, anche tirate di capo se vi pare che io sia fuori strada rispetto ai vostri obiettivi. OSM è un'occasione per smanettare e imparare eccezionale, ma vogliamo anche che si affermi come reale alternativa? Scusate se sono stata un po' arrogante forse, da neofita quale sono, ma in queste cose o tutto o niente, e a volte chi ne sa meno ha un punto di vista utile :) Magari voi avete idee diverse che posso sposare o mi potete spiegare cosa già si sta facendo in questa stessa direzione che io non so. Francesca Il giorno 28 gennaio 2015 11:11, Pierfranco Minsenti pierfranco.minse...@gmail.com ha scritto: Grazie dell'informazione sulla data del 16. Pierfranco Il giorno 28 gennaio 2015 11:09, francesca santarelli sant.france...@gmail.com ha scritto: Pierfranco, penso sia una battaglia comune con i wikimediani quella di fare presente certe istanze alle istituzioni. Proprio sul tema del rapporto tra istituzioni culturali ed etica il socio Marco Goldin dovrebbe fare un intervento a Ca' Foscari il 16 febbraio, beato chi potrà esserci :) Francesca Il giorno 27 gennaio 2015 15:19, Pierfranco Minsenti pierfranco.minse...@gmail.com ha scritto: Oggi su Wired si parla di Open Culture Atlas, proposto come alternativa già pronta e più interessante rispetto a verybello.it (l'articolo è una recensione critica di verybello.it). «Dalle parti di chi quel progetto l’ha concepito, realizzato e promosso è normale che ci si pongano delle domande, il cui tono è quanto mai costruttivo: «In un paese con così poche – lamentate – risorse dedicabili alla cultura (che è “solo” quello sfaccettato insieme di comportamenti e azioni che tengono insieme la capacità individuale e collettiva di rinnovare il senso del nostro vivere), e con così intensa (suppletiva) attività dell’associazionismo e
Re: [Talk-pt] Rotas dos Transportes Urbanos de Braga
Grande trabalho APIRES, estás de parabéns! Sabes se existe algum programa/plugin que consiga ler esses ficheiros .txt num formato mais visual? No dia 28 de janeiro de 2015 às 15:51, ANVPIRES anvpi...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá a todos, Partindo deste desafio do Miguel Borges (mirtilo), tomei a iniciativa de contactar os TUB para perceber que informação podiam disponibilizar para além da que está nos PDFs. Em reunião com eles (um administrador e um informático) verifiquei que têm toda a informação da rede em formato GTFS [1], que disponibilizam à Google sempre que há atualizações. Sensibilizei-os para as vantagens em publicarem essa informação, com autorização para a sua reutilização, de modo a que outros planeadores de rotas passem a usar esta informação. Devo referir que a abertura do Administrador da TUB, Eng Teotónio Santos, foi total e entusiasmada. E este meu email serve para anunciar que a TUB passou a disponibilizar no seu site (www.tub.pt) toda a informação da sua rede em formato GTFS. O ficheiro está disponível, na secção Downloads, Rede TUB, TUB GTFS. E tal como sugeri, também lá colocaram a indicação: Esta informação é pública e a TUB autoriza a sua reutilização. Assim sendo, está facilitada a tarefa de colocar esta informação no OSM. Aproveitando este exemplo, seria vantajoso que a comunidade OSM divulgasse o mais possível esta iniciativa da TUB para motivar outras entidades a fazerem o mesmo. Abraço, APIRES [1] GTFS - General Transit Feed Specification https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/ On 2014-12-19 16:30, Miguel Borges wrote: Viva Gonçalo, no site da TUB o mapa de todas as rotas está disponível em PDF. É um trabalho que me parece razoável a transferencia da informação da rota para o osm, sobretudo para quem conhece a geografia local. Aliás, parece-me que qualquer outro formato de dados implicaria um processo semelhante na importação para o osm. Sobre o SIGGESC, que desconhecia, parece-me uma possibilidade com algum potencial (ainda que antevendo algumas dificuldade, como ilustra este exemplo de interação http://www.transportespublicos.pt/carta-aberta-ao-presidente-da-area-metropolitana-do-porto/ com instituições públicas) mas cujo alcance está para lá do objectivo inicial do meu email. Ainda assim, fica a referência. Se vire na wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services#Public_Transport do osm há bons pontos de partida para poder planear rotas em tp com base nas rotas do osm. Mas o ingrediente base precisa de lá estar: boas rotas e info sobre horários - vê esta http://mobilidade.inf.ufrgs.br/viajetrifacil/ implementação em Curitiba do Abraço, Miguel Borges. No dia 19 de dezembro de 2014 às 14:31, Gonçalo Lourenço cnog...@gmail.com escreveu: Viva Miguel Já pediste essa informação aos TUB? Tenho a certeza que se quisessem, ou pudessem, te arranjavam isso. Aliás, porque não solicitar ao regulador (IMT) a disponibilização dos dados SIGGESC http://www.imtt.pt/sites/IMTT/Portugues/Noticias/Paginas/UtilizacaodoSIGGESCpelosoperadoresdetransportepublicorodoviariodepassageirosDespachonormativopublicadoemDiariodaRepublica.aspx(com o devido consentimento dos operadores) que a comunidade OSM encarregar-se-ia de manter corretos e atualizados? É um compromisso difícil e exigente mas iria acrescentar imenso valor ao OSM. Com as ferramentas adequadas até podíamos ter um planeador de viagens em TP para todo o território nacional baseado em OSM*** Abraços Gonçalo *** não fui verificar se já existe. Sei que o gmaps não faz ou faz apenas para as regiões do porto e lisboa, o resto é deserto... 2014-12-19 12:44 GMT+00:00 Miguel Borges borges.mig...@gmail.com: Talk-pt@openstreetmap.orgOlá a todos, Escrevo-vos para dar conta à comunidade do trabalho que estou a desenvolver e para ver se não colide com o trabalho que algum outro membro esteja a fazer. Ainda um apelo: se alguém quiser dar uma ajuda, é bem-vindo(a)! Meti-me na empreitada de completar as rotas dos transportes urbanos de Braga (TUB) com base na informação publicada no site da empresa transportadora (www.tub.pt) e no meu conhecimento local. A situação actual é a de 15 rotas já criadas, julgo que pelo transportespublicospt, e que de entre as quais 3 estão com problemas de continuidade e todas sem referência ao sentido da rota. Das 55 rotas restantes, já criei 6, pelo que ainda restam 49. Partilho convosco o método que estou a usar para a criação de rotas: 0. Criar relações de rotas, com prioridade às rotas que se estendam por zonas do teritório ainda sem cobertura 1. Começo por acrescentar à relação, os segmentos no sentido da ida 2. Se o segmento é apenas percorrido na ida, marco-o com o role de forward 3. Se o segmento é comum à ida e volta, não lhe marco role 4. Depois de acrescentar todos os segmentos ida e comuns, marco os segmentos que apenas são feitos no regresso (incluindo partes
Re: [Talk-es] Importación de megalitos
Enhorabuena Ahora empieza el trabajo DURO Debes seguir estas directrices casi na.. :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Import/Guidelines El 28 de enero de 2015, 18:30, Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com escribió: ¡Sí señor! Se han portado y han respondido. No pueden pasar un fichero pero sí permiten que tomemos datos de su web. Lo único que piden es que citemos de donde proceden los datos. ¿Bastaría con etiquetar en cada nodo source=nombre? Podría añadir un enlace a la web. Aparte, he encontrado una web (http://www.geoplaner.com) en la que introduciendo las coordenadas WGS84 crea un waypoint en formato GPX que luego importo a JOSM para dibujar encima. ¿Sabeis si tiene JOSM alguna opción para hacer eso directamente sin pasar por esa web? Un saludo El 22 de enero de 2015, 20:13, Alejandro S. alejandro...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, Y luego está, independientemente de la legalidad y calidad de los datos, la moralidad y ética de copiar información que ha generado un tercero sin su permiso. Saludos, Alejandro SUÁREZ On Thu, Jan 22, 2015, 19:51 Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com wrote: Me habeis convencido y me ha quedado claro. Gracias y un saludo. El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:47, Matías Taborda Barroso taborda.barr...@gmail.com escribió: Hola. No es solo ese problema, el principal es el tipo de Licencia de los datos, que no son compatibles con la ODBl de Openstreetmap. A partir de aqui, claro que puedes copiar e incorporarlos a OSM pero tambien podriamos copiar toda la cartografia de Google por ejemplo, y evidentemente no se DEBE... El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:43, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez cruz.bor...@deusto.es escribió: El problema es que hayan puesto alguno a drede mal para pillar si alguien les ha copiado los datos y tengan ganas de llamar a un abogado o equivalente. El día 22 de enero de 2015, 19:38, Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com escribió: En este caso concreto me extrañaría muchísimo que fueran incorrectos. Pertenecen a la Sociedad de Ciencias Aranzadi, muy conocida en el País Vasco y Navarra por su historia y rigor científico. Suelen realizar excavaciones y tienen gente de campo en busca de restos históricos. Si ese es el único problema, problema resuelto ;) El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:20, Luis García Castro lui...@gmail.com escribió: El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:13, Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com escribió: Y yo me pregunto: ¿cuando se considera que estoy infringiendo una licencia? Los datos están expuestos de forma que cualquiera puede echar mano de ellos. Por ejemplo: puedo apuntar las coordenadas, megalito a megalito, y un día ir al monte con mi GPS y localizarlos in situ. No creo que infrinja nada actuando de esa manera ya que en muchas áreas megalíticas hay mapas y carteles informativos para que la gente los visite. ¿Y si en vez de molestarme en ir a localizarlos, los marco directamente en JOSM? ¿Eso sería ilegal? No es solamente un tema legal. Si vas uno a uno y lo compruebas, es correcto porque tú has visto que lo es. Pero imagina si no lo compruebas y la mitad de los datos son incorrectos o inexactos... -- Luis García ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-GB] Disclaimer
True - not even footpaths go where OS shows they do ! On 28 January 2015 at 15:41, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 28/01/15 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote: Do we need an OSM disclaimer -- I've just had a mail from a gentleman enquiring why an underground powerline http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/127968407/history#map=17/51.50283/-2.55462 was drawn on OSM -- as he didn't want to buy a house on top of it and Western Power told him the powerline couldn't be there! I think he joined OSM just to message me?!? When I lived in Hillingdon I wanted to build a garage at the bottom of the garden. The OS maps showed a storm water drain running through the next property and under the track behind where I wanted to build. I had to dig down and show that we were clear of that drain ... except it was 6' further over ... right under the corner of the garage. So now there is a wooden porch which can be taken down if they need access. Bottom line - even the OS maps can't be taken as accurate! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Rilevamento automatico segnali stradali Mapillary
Il giorno 28 gennaio 2015 07:28, John Doe theguest...@gmail.com ha scritto: http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2015/01/27/traffic-signs.html cosa ne pensate? se Mapillary permettesse anche l'import automatico su OSM dei segnali stradali rilevati sarebbe spettacolare. Automatica no, non è una scienza esatta la visione computazionale. (cfr https://github.com/mapillary/mapillary_issues/issues/565 ) Penso che andranno ad alimentare Scout Signs ( http://sdkblog.skobbler.com/scoutsign-osm/) Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-at] Wiener Stammtisch im Februar
Scheint die beste Wahl zu sein, ja. Am 2015-01-24 um 10:06 schrieb Andreas Labres: On 16.01.15 18:36, Markus Mayr wrote: Mich störts am 4. nicht, habe abar auch nichts gegen den 11. Ich kann am 4.2. nicht. Da Du nix gegen den 11. hast und sonst niemand geantwortet hat, bestelle ich mal für den 11. lg /al ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-pt] Rotas dos Transportes Urbanos de Braga
Olá Marcos, Talvez encontres aqui: https://code.google.com/p/googletransitdatafeed/wiki/OtherGTFSTools Abraço, APIRES On 2015-01-28 16:42, Marcos Oliveira wrote: Grande trabalho APIRES, estás de parabéns! Sabes se existe algum programa/plugin que consiga ler esses ficheiros .txt num formato mais visual? No dia 28 de janeiro de 2015 às 15:51, ANVPIRES anvpi...@gmail.com mailto:anvpi...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá a todos, Partindo deste desafio do Miguel Borges (mirtilo), tomei a iniciativa de contactar os TUB para perceber que informação podiam disponibilizar para além da que está nos PDFs. Em reunião com eles (um administrador e um informático) verifiquei que têm toda a informação da rede em formato GTFS [1], que disponibilizam à Google sempre que há atualizações. Sensibilizei-os para as vantagens em publicarem essa informação, com autorização para a sua reutilização, de modo a que outros planeadores de rotas passem a usar esta informação. Devo referir que a abertura do Administrador da TUB, Eng Teotónio Santos, foi total e entusiasmada. E este meu email serve para anunciar que a TUB passou a disponibilizar no seu site (www.tub.pt http://www.tub.pt) toda a informação da sua rede em formato GTFS. O ficheiro está disponível, na secção Downloads, Rede TUB, TUB GTFS. E tal como sugeri, também lá colocaram a indicação: Esta informação é pública e a TUB autoriza a sua reutilização. Assim sendo, está facilitada a tarefa de colocar esta informação no OSM. Aproveitando este exemplo, seria vantajoso que a comunidade OSM divulgasse o mais possível esta iniciativa da TUB para motivar outras entidades a fazerem o mesmo. Abraço, APIRES [1] GTFS - General Transit Feed Specification https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/ On 2014-12-19 16:30, Miguel Borges wrote: Viva Gonçalo, no site da TUB o mapa de todas as rotas está disponível em PDF. É um trabalho que me parece razoável a transferencia da informação da rota para o osm, sobretudo para quem conhece a geografia local. Aliás, parece-me que qualquer outro formato de dados implicaria um processo semelhante na importação para o osm. Sobre o SIGGESC, que desconhecia, parece-me uma possibilidade com algum potencial (ainda que antevendo algumas dificuldade, como ilustra este exemplo de interação http://www.transportespublicos.pt/carta-aberta-ao-presidente-da-area-metropolitana-do-porto/ com instituições públicas) mas cujo alcance está para lá do objectivo inicial do meu email. Ainda assim, fica a referência. Se vire na wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services#Public_Transport do osm há bons pontos de partida para poder planear rotas em tp com base nas rotas do osm. Mas o ingrediente base precisa de lá estar: boas rotas e info sobre horários - vêesta http://mobilidade.inf.ufrgs.br/viajetrifacil/ implementação em Curitiba do Abraço, Miguel Borges. No dia 19 de dezembro de 2014 às 14:31, Gonçalo Lourenço cnog...@gmail.com mailto:cnog...@gmail.com escreveu: Viva Miguel Já pediste essa informação aos TUB? Tenho a certeza que se quisessem, ou pudessem, te arranjavam isso. Aliás, porque não solicitar ao regulador (IMT) a disponibilização dos dados SIGGESC http://www.imtt.pt/sites/IMTT/Portugues/Noticias/Paginas/UtilizacaodoSIGGESCpelosoperadoresdetransportepublicorodoviariodepassageirosDespachonormativopublicadoemDiariodaRepublica.aspx(com o devido consentimento dos operadores) que a comunidade OSM encarregar-se-ia de manter corretos e atualizados? É um compromisso difícil e exigente mas iria acrescentar imenso valor ao OSM. Com as ferramentas adequadas até podíamos ter um planeador de viagens em TP para todo o território nacional baseado em OSM*** Abraços Gonçalo *** não fui verificar se já existe. Sei que o gmaps não faz ou faz apenas para as regiões do porto e lisboa, o resto é deserto... 2014-12-19 12:44 GMT+00:00 Miguel Borges borges.mig...@gmail.com mailto:borges.mig...@gmail.com: mailto:Talk-pt@openstreetmap.orgOlá a todos, Escrevo-vos para dar conta à comunidade do trabalho que estou a desenvolver e para ver se não colide com o trabalho que algum outro membro esteja a fazer. Ainda um apelo: se alguém quiser dar uma ajuda, é bem-vindo(a)! Meti-me na empreitada de completar as rotas dos transportes urbanos de Braga (TUB) com base na informação publicada no site da empresa transportadora (www.tub.pt http://www.tub.pt) e no meu conhecimento local. A situação actual é a de 15 rotas já criadas, julgo que pelo
Re: [Talk-pt] Talk-pt Digest, Vol 62, Issue 13
:00 Miguel Borges borges.mig...@gmail.com: Talk-pt@openstreetmap.orgOlá a todos, Escrevo-vos para dar conta à comunidade do trabalho que estou a desenvolver e para ver se não colide com o trabalho que algum outro membro esteja a fazer. Ainda um apelo: se alguém quiser dar uma ajuda, é bem-vindo(a)! Meti-me na empreitada de completar as rotas dos transportes urbanos de Braga (TUB) com base na informação publicada no site da empresa transportadora (www.tub.pt) e no meu conhecimento local. A situação actual é a de 15 rotas já criadas, julgo que pelo transportespublicospt, e que de entre as quais 3 estão com problemas de continuidade e todas sem referência ao sentido da rota. Das 55 rotas restantes, já criei 6, pelo que ainda restam 49. Partilho convosco o método que estou a usar para a criação de rotas: 0. Criar relações de rotas, com prioridade às rotas que se estendam por zonas do teritório ainda sem cobertura 1. Começo por acrescentar à relação, os segmentos no sentido da ida 2. Se o segmento é apenas percorrido na ida, marco-o com o role de forward 3. Se o segmento é comum à ida e volta, não lhe marco role 4. Depois de acrescentar todos os segmentos ida e comuns, marco os segmentos que apenas são feitos no regresso (incluindo partes de rotundas e acessos) e associo-lhe o role de backward *. Fica para uma outra fase a adição de bus_stops, pois o levantamento e identificação não são de momento exaustivos Uma questão sobre este tipo de trabalhos: onde acham que devo disponibilizar info sobre evolução a das tarefas? E se alguém perceber que estou a fazer asneira, que me avise ;) Abraço, Miguel Borges (mirtilo) -- Dados particulares Relações das rotas que estavam já criadas: 3169698, 3170247, 3170450, 3171730, 3173404, 3231617, 3299812, 3311977, 3313484, 444, 3356514, 3313604 Relações das rotas com problemas de continuidade: 3231742, 3331955, 3332367 Relações das rotas criadas por mim entretanto: 4280370, 4282032,4285307, 4285689, 4285786, 4288120 ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt -- *Com os meus cumprimentos / Best regards* *GONÇALO LOURENÇO* ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing listTalk-pt@openstreetmap.orghttps:// lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt -- Um Abraço, Marcos Oliveira -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-pt/attachments/20150128/7714a92b/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:06:51 + From: ANVPIRES anvpi...@gmail.com To: talk-pt@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-pt] Rotas dos Transportes Urbanos de Braga Message-ID: 54c9172b.8040...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; Format=flowed Olá Marcos, Talvez encontres aqui: https://code.google.com/p/googletransitdatafeed/wiki/OtherGTFSTools Abraço, APIRES On 2015-01-28 16:42, Marcos Oliveira wrote: Grande trabalho APIRES, estás de parabéns! Sabes se existe algum programa/plugin que consiga ler esses ficheiros .txt num formato mais visual? No dia 28 de janeiro de 2015 às 15:51, ANVPIRES anvpi...@gmail.com mailto:anvpi...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá a todos, Partindo deste desafio do Miguel Borges (mirtilo), tomei a iniciativa de contactar os TUB para perceber que informação podiam disponibilizar para além da que está nos PDFs. Em reunião com eles (um administrador e um informático) verifiquei que têm toda a informação da rede em formato GTFS [1], que disponibilizam à Google sempre que há atualizações. Sensibilizei-os para as vantagens em publicarem essa informação, com autorização para a sua reutilização, de modo a que outros planeadores de rotas passem a usar esta informação. Devo referir que a abertura do Administrador da TUB, Eng Teotónio Santos, foi total e entusiasmada. E este meu email serve para anunciar que a TUB passou a disponibilizar no seu site (www.tub.pt http://www.tub.pt) toda a informação da sua rede em formato GTFS. O ficheiro está disponível, na secção Downloads, Rede TUB, TUB GTFS. E tal como sugeri, também lá colocaram a indicação: Esta informação é pública e a TUB autoriza a sua reutilização. Assim sendo, está facilitada a tarefa de colocar esta informação no OSM. Aproveitando este exemplo, seria vantajoso
Re: [OSM-talk-be] problem with relation rendering
Just in case you don't get an answer here (don't know whether there are mapnik specialists here), you might post your question on the help-site [1], the or the dev-forum or a more dev oriented mailing list [3] You might also try to contact e.g. Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl , one of the maintainers of openstreetmap-carto. Good luck m [1] http://help.openstreetmap.org [2] http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=13 [3] http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=13 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Olivier Toubeau o.toub...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm rendering cycle routes, so I've got ncn, rcn and lcn networks, with different colors, it works great. I want to render in these cycle routes which ways of them have highway=cycleway. So I'm searching how to render ways with a rule on a tag + a rule on a relation, so that I can see which parts of the cycle routes are equipped with cycleways (restricted to bicycles), and which are classical streets, for cars and bicycles. Is it possible ? Oli ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[Talk-cz] relace Novohradské hory (24472)
Všiml jsem si, že se nějak pokazila relace Novohradské hory (24472). Nevím jak bych ji měl opravit. Mohl by se na to někdo podívat. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-it] Se modifico una mappa vettoriale su dati OSM, sto modfiicando i dati?
2015-01-27 22:53 GMT+01:00 Daniele Forsi dfo...@gmail.com: se estraggo delle way da OSM e le trasformo in un formato vettoriale che poi modifico manualmente e alla fine stampo su carta, secondo secondo sto modificando i dati sottostanti per cui scattano gli obblighi della ODbL di condividere le modifiche si , al di là della rappresentazione grafica che è chiaro se la faccio da zero, posso distribuirla con la licenza che mi pare? si, però devi mettere a connoscenza chi riceve la stampa che si basa su dati ODbL da OSM. Le modifiche che ho in mente sono la cancellazione di certe strade che non mi interessano e lo spostamento di altre per rendere più visibili certi POI, cioè magari cambio sia la topologia che le proporzioni e quindi faccio modifiche che non devo riportare in OSM altrimenti danneggio la mappa. si, non devi riportare mai niente in OSM, quello che devi secondo la ODbL è rendere disponibile sotto la ODbL le modifiche, oppure il mecchanismo che stavi applicando. Penso che potresti andare sulla lista licensing per chiedere agli esperti. Io credo che nel tuo caso non avresti niente in più che ad OSM potrebbe interessare, ma dovresti citare OSM come fonte dei dati. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [tag] musée d'art
Heureusement que tu n'as pas parlé des Galeries Lafayettes ! Il ne suffit pas que le lieu porte le nom Galerie pour que ce soit une galerie, même s'il y a parfois des expos d'art aussi au Galeries Lafayette (surtout des expos photo, parfois des expos de produits de luxe produits par les grandes marques qui vendent dans le magasin). Il y a bien une expo créative tous les ans qui attire les touristes : leur vitrine animée qui est en revanche une très belle œuvre. Mais il n'y a strctement rien d'un musée (aucune mission pédagogique ou de recherche). La National Gallery à Londres est bien un musée et non une simple galerie. Ses activités pédagogiques et de recherche sont bien fournies, de même que son soutien directe à la création ou l'initiation à la création; en plus de celles de conservation et le fait qu'elle possède ses collections, et qu'elle les présente en partie ou les échange avec d'autres musées du monde. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] Usage without attribution: US Geological Survey
Found it here while checking out a nearby earthquake I was notified about... http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000tiqz#general_map The Street layer of the map is very clearly taking tiles from Mapquest Open (spotted at relatively low zoom over tulsa due to Mapquest lagging months behind on that zoom over parts of I 244 and I 44 which were tagged during major construction operations as recently as last fall in a manner that which that renderer didn't understand, leaving gaps over the Arkansas River on 244 and Midtown Tulsa near Lewis Avenue on I 44); confirmed by zooming in deeper around the BOK Center in downtown Tulsa with a pretty high level of detail of the block the arena is on itself along with a number of city sidewalks from changesets I uploaded in the last week). Legal page is 404. About Us doesn't seem to mention anything either. No attribution on map itself. Only the Street layer appears to be from OSM data. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server
This then goes back to the hosting question. Our original offer was co-hosting on the server which also hosts OHM (and ChaloBEST). This is apparently undesirable to the community. We could provide a dedicated box, but that was not my intent in restarting this thread, which goes back years. My aim was to remove the obstacle if hosting and storage are issues. Also hosting at HBCSE/TIFR (where I work and where Johnson made a start on this) is not reliable, as sys-admins there are few and overburdened, and servi es are unreliable. At this point only a small number of active OSM India enthusiasts would be using this service. Can we use a VM for now? If we're asking for a dedicated box I'll have to approach Tim and Schuyler in Topomancy to see if they agree. Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community? Mikel, any thoughts? S.K. On Jan 27, 2015 8:33 PM, Sanjay Bhangar sanjaybhan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey hey, Many apologies for the confusion there, then - I think I was half remembering conversations from some time ago where that was the plan. If the plan is just to mirror the OSM data and provide alternate styles more appropriate for India and localized, let's rock on :) I guess we still need a server for this, though, as people have rightly pointed out, its probably not a good idea to co-host with OHM. Thanks - and sorry again for the confusion :) - great to know that the boundary issue can also be managed with styles alone, that sounds great. Cheers, Sanjay On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself. +1 I am unable to get message which caused this confusion. We intend to have only tile server. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-es] Importación de megalitos
Las recomendaciones son ahora poner la fuente al cerrar y subir el conjunto de cambios, no en cada elemento del mapa. Utiliza el componente OpenData JOSM para importar un archivo CSV con las coordenadas XY de cada POI y la etiquetas asociadas a estos. Probablemente sea lo más rápido trabajar con hoja de cálculo. Un saludo. El 28 de enero de 2015, 18:30, Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com escribió: ¡Sí señor! Se han portado y han respondido. No pueden pasar un fichero pero sí permiten que tomemos datos de su web. Lo único que piden es que citemos de donde proceden los datos. ¿Bastaría con etiquetar en cada nodo source=nombre? Podría añadir un enlace a la web. Aparte, he encontrado una web (http://www.geoplaner.com) en la que introduciendo las coordenadas WGS84 crea un waypoint en formato GPX que luego importo a JOSM para dibujar encima. ¿Sabeis si tiene JOSM alguna opción para hacer eso directamente sin pasar por esa web? Un saludo El 22 de enero de 2015, 20:13, Alejandro S. alejandro...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, Y luego está, independientemente de la legalidad y calidad de los datos, la moralidad y ética de copiar información que ha generado un tercero sin su permiso. Saludos, Alejandro SUÁREZ On Thu, Jan 22, 2015, 19:51 Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com wrote: Me habeis convencido y me ha quedado claro. Gracias y un saludo. El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:47, Matías Taborda Barroso taborda.barr...@gmail.com escribió: Hola. No es solo ese problema, el principal es el tipo de Licencia de los datos, que no son compatibles con la ODBl de Openstreetmap. A partir de aqui, claro que puedes copiar e incorporarlos a OSM pero tambien podriamos copiar toda la cartografia de Google por ejemplo, y evidentemente no se DEBE... El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:43, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez cruz.bor...@deusto.es escribió: El problema es que hayan puesto alguno a drede mal para pillar si alguien les ha copiado los datos y tengan ganas de llamar a un abogado o equivalente. El día 22 de enero de 2015, 19:38, Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com escribió: En este caso concreto me extrañaría muchísimo que fueran incorrectos. Pertenecen a la Sociedad de Ciencias Aranzadi, muy conocida en el País Vasco y Navarra por su historia y rigor científico. Suelen realizar excavaciones y tienen gente de campo en busca de restos históricos. Si ese es el único problema, problema resuelto ;) El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:20, Luis García Castro lui...@gmail.com escribió: El 22 de enero de 2015, 19:13, Santi Aguirre aguirrera...@gmail.com escribió: Y yo me pregunto: ¿cuando se considera que estoy infringiendo una licencia? Los datos están expuestos de forma que cualquiera puede echar mano de ellos. Por ejemplo: puedo apuntar las coordenadas, megalito a megalito, y un día ir al monte con mi GPS y localizarlos in situ. No creo que infrinja nada actuando de esa manera ya que en muchas áreas megalíticas hay mapas y carteles informativos para que la gente los visite. ¿Y si en vez de molestarme en ir a localizarlos, los marco directamente en JOSM? ¿Eso sería ilegal? No es solamente un tema legal. Si vas uno a uno y lo compruebas, es correcto porque tú has visto que lo es. Pero imagina si no lo compruebas y la mitad de los datos son incorrectos o inexactos... -- Luis García ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
