Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Of the 3 options, I also favor option 3. For the record, I've been saying
that landuse=farmland (or landuse=farm before) should be tagged on the
entire farm area and not on individual fields (or rice paddies if
crop=rice). See this post of mine from 2009:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-November/001545.html

There's also a relevant discussion in 2014 regarding the mapping of
individual farm fields/paddies (thread archive is split into two months):

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-August/005229.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2014-October/005318.html

For the specific case of rice paddies, there are actually two ways you can
go about mapping things (once you've marked up the whole area as a single
landuse=farmland):

1. Mark the borders between paddies as ways as these are raised lines of
land that serve as walls to hold the water and secondarily serve as
footpaths (but shouldn't be tagged as highway=*) to access individual
paddies. There was the suggestion to use man_made=bund or
man_made=embankment or something similar but no decision was made.

2. Mark the paddies as individual polygons.

~Eugene

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 3:28 AM, David Groom  wrote:

>
> During early April I looked at  nodes/ways/relations tagged as
> landuse=farm as reclassified many of them as appropriate.
>
> Howver , in some places I noted that individual fields had been tagged
> using landuse = farm, for example:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/11.225924767247454/
> 124.54216374231005
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/16.933969/121.13637
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/14.883274660783613/
> 120.25851326487962
>
>
> At present I have done nothing with these ways
>
> The standard use in OSM for landuse=farmland is for it to be used on
> larger areas, rather than individual fields
>
> There appears to be no approved tag in OSM for fields, (though taginfo
>  shows field=yes
> used on 388 occasions worldwide)
>
> There seem to be a number of possibilities regarding these ways:
>
> 1) retag them as landuse=farmland
> 2) delete them and draw a single way round the larger outline of all the
> adjacent fields and tag this as landuse=farmland
> 3) retag  them as field=yes, and also draw a single way round the larger
> outline of all the adjacent fields and tag this as landuse=farmland.
>
> Of these I think I favour approach 3 as it keeps the field data in OSM
> (someone might have a use for this)
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Regards
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "David Groom" 
> To: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" 
> Sent: 31/03/2017 12:23:53
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm
>
> I don't think it will take too long for one person to do this, but I may
> be mistaken.
>
> It will also be an opportunity to look at some of the areas tagged as
> "landuse = farm", and merge them into adjacent areas where appropriate.
>
> David
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Eugene Alvin Villar" 
> To: "David Groom" 
> Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" 
> Sent: 30/03/2017 00:56:18
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:06 PM, David Groom 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Shall I start looking at the  relations and ways and change where
>> appropriate from "landuse = farm" to "landuse = farmland"?
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>
> Go for it! Would it also make sense to turn this into a Maproulette task?
>
> ~Eugene
>
>
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Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm

[David Groom]

During early April I looked at  nodes/ways/relations tagged as 
landuse=farm as reclassified many of them as appropriate.


Howver , in some places I noted that individual fields had been tagged 
using landuse = farm, for example:


https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/11.225924767247454/124.54216374231005
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/16.933969/121.13637
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/14.883274660783613/120.25851326487962


At present I have done nothing with these ways

The standard use in OSM for landuse=farmland is for it to be used on 
larger areas, rather than individual fields


There appears to be no approved tag in OSM for fields, (though taginfo 
 shows field=yes 
used on 388 occasions worldwide)


There seem to be a number of possibilities regarding these ways:

1) retag them as landuse=farmland
2) delete them and draw a single way round the larger outline of all the 
adjacent fields and tag this as landuse=farmland
3) retag  them as field=yes, and also draw a single way round the larger 
outline of all the adjacent fields and tag this as landuse=farmland.


Of these I think I favour approach 3 as it keeps the field data in OSM 
(someone might have a use for this)


What are your thoughts?

Regards

David





-- Original Message --
From: "David Groom" 
To: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" 
Sent: 31/03/2017 12:23:53
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm

I don't think it will take too long for one person to do this, but I 
may be mistaken.


It will also be an opportunity to look at some of the areas tagged as 
"landuse = farm", and merge them into adjacent areas where appropriate.


David


-- Original Message --
From: "Eugene Alvin Villar" 
To: "David Groom" 
Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" 
Sent: 30/03/2017 00:56:18
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] landuse = farm

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:06 PM, David Groom 
 wrote:


Shall I start looking at the  relations and ways and change where 
appropriate from "landuse = farm" to "landuse = farmland"?


What do you think?


Go for it! Would it also make sense to turn this into a Maproulette 
task?


~Eugene___
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