Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back
On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:58, Shaun McDonald wrote: Looking good, I'm thinking of adding timetable_case=yes/no/empty to the list of required fields. Good stuff - I have been through my local area with a cleanup pass of and it has helped find a number of issues. I will do other parts of the town next. Can I suggest that NOVAM needs its own wiki page and that the link from the product should go that that page. Could you add a 'edit this feature in Potlatch' option from the Stops information pane? I guess a link to JOSM may also be wanted by others. I do thing we should rationalise the different view option into a 'basic' and a number of 'advanced' options. The basic option could ignore if there are shelters and routes etc, the advanced options can take more of these into account and colour code things appropriately. Part of me wonders if you could encode the colours into the URL using a bit pattern for the tag entries, so... colours=#6 #00FF00, #7 #FF, #E #808000 would mean that if the appropriate two tags were present (#6=binary 000110) then the colour would be #00FF00 except if three tags (#7=binary 00111) were present and then the colour would be #FF etc. One can then encode the most common options into a pull- down list but is does allow people to play with other variations. Regards, Peter Shaun On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:21, Christoph Böhme wrote: I've updated Novam. It now supports multiple colour schemes and also highlights errors in the tagging of stops. At the moment three colour schemes are defined: 1. The original Birmingham one 2. Chris Hill's colour scheme for Hull (with slightly different colours though) 3. Peter Miller's colour scheme which should work for most of the UK (please tell me if you rather not have the colour scheme named after you) These colour schemes should work but they might need some fine tuning. Additional colour schemes can easily be added. If you are interested in writing one have a look at [1]. The file lacks documentation but it should be clear from the three existing schemes how schemes are defined. Christoph [1] http://mappa-mercia.org/novam/scripts/Novam/Schemes.js Christoph Boehme christ...@b3e.net schrieb: Good Morning, this is just to let you know that NOVAM is working again. It can be found on http://mappa-mercia.org/novam . Please update any old links and booksmarks. Since I decided not to implement a merging functionality on the website I have removed most of the old user interface elements and made the NOVAM viewer the new interface. Please tell me if you miss any functionality from the old user interface. I will update the colour coding of the bus stops at the weekend. Cheers, Christoph ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back
I forgot to say when I was asking about bus shelters how much I like the changes as they are. It works so much better in this area to let me see which I've verified, even if they aren't green (I'm tempted to just pull all the local bus stop nodes without the naptan:verified key, and without a shelter key into a JOSM selection and add shelter=no for now...) Ed ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back
Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: I've updated Novam. It now supports multiple colour schemes and also highlights errors in the tagging of stops. At the moment three colour schemes are defined: 1. The original Birmingham one 2. Chris Hill's colour scheme for Hull (with slightly different colours though) 3. Peter Miller's colour scheme which should work for most of the UK (please tell me if you rather not have the colour scheme named after you) These colour schemes should work but they might need some fine tuning. Additional colour schemes can easily be added. If you are interested in writing one have a look at [1]. The file lacks documentation but it should be clear from the three existing schemes how schemes are defined. Christoph [1] http://mappa-mercia.org/novam/scripts/Novam/Schemes.js Thanks Christoph, I like my eponymous scheme - it does just what I need it to do. Seeing the tags on a selected stop is particularly easy. I would like the colour of the purple and grey tags to be a bit more distinct. May I suggest that the stops with a note tag (currently purple) be changed to orange so they stand out? Grey and purple were indeed a bit similar. Orange looks much better. Cheers, Christoph Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back
On 28 Oct 2009, at 22:49, Christoph Böhme wrote: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:58, Shaun McDonald wrote: Looking good, I'm thinking of adding timetable_case=yes/no/empty to the list of required fields. Good stuff - I have been through my local area with a cleanup pass of and it has helped find a number of issues. I will do other parts of the town next. Can I suggest that NOVAM needs its own wiki page and that the link from the product should go that that page. Does anyone want to write something? I am quite busy with the development of NOVAM and would appreciate if someone else could set up a wiki page. Could you add a 'edit this feature in Potlatch' option from the Stops information pane? I guess a link to JOSM may also be wanted by others. I added a link to potlatch. It centers on the bus stop at the current zoom level. Please let me no if this works well when editing. I will add a link to JOSM as soon as I find out how to do this. In Potlatch you can link to the specific node by adding a node parameter to the url. For JOSM please read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/JOSM/Plugins/RemoteControl I do thing we should rationalise the different view option into a 'basic' and a number of 'advanced' options. The basic option could ignore if there are shelters and routes etc, the advanced options can take more of these into account and colour code things appropriately. This is a very good idea. I was already fearing that the possibility of different colour schemes might led to each town having its own different scheme for tagging bus stops. Having some basic schemes and on top of this advanced schemes for special features (like shelters/timetables) can hopefully prevent this. Yeah, I'd much rather see all the bus stops surveyed to the same or similar spec. Shaun Part of me wonders if you could encode the colours into the URL using a bit pattern for the tag entries, so... colours=#6 #00FF00, #7 #FF, #E #808000 would mean that if the appropriate two tags were present (#6=binary 000110) then the colour would be #00FF00 except if three tags (#7=binary 00111) were present and then the colour would be #FF etc. One can then encode the most common options into a pull- down list but is does allow people to play with other variations. This could also be done with a list of checkboxes so that users do not need to fiddle around with the URL. However it would still be nice to be able to share such a scheme with other users. Cheers, Christoph Regards, Peter Shaun On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:21, Christoph Böhme wrote: I've updated Novam. It now supports multiple colour schemes and also highlights errors in the tagging of stops. At the moment three colour schemes are defined: 1. The original Birmingham one 2. Chris Hill's colour scheme for Hull (with slightly different colours though) 3. Peter Miller's colour scheme which should work for most of the UK (please tell me if you rather not have the colour scheme named after you) These colour schemes should work but they might need some fine tuning. Additional colour schemes can easily be added. If you are interested in writing one have a look at [1]. The file lacks documentation but it should be clear from the three existing schemes how schemes are defined. Christoph [1] http://mappa-mercia.org/novam/scripts/Novam/Schemes.js Christoph Boehme christ...@b3e.net schrieb: Good Morning, this is just to let you know that NOVAM is working again. It can be found on http://mappa-mercia.org/novam . Please update any old links and booksmarks. Since I decided not to implement a merging functionality on the website I have removed most of the old user interface elements and made the NOVAM viewer the new interface. Please tell me if you miss any functionality from the old user interface. I will update the colour coding of the bus stops at the weekend. Cheers, Christoph ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org
Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back
Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: I've updated Novam. It now supports multiple colour schemes and also highlights errors in the tagging of stops. At the moment three colour schemes are defined: 1. The original Birmingham one 2. Chris Hill's colour scheme for Hull (with slightly different colours though) 3. Peter Miller's colour scheme which should work for most of the UK (please tell me if you rather not have the colour scheme named after you) These colour schemes should work but they might need some fine tuning. Additional colour schemes can easily be added. If you are interested in writing one have a look at [1]. The file lacks documentation but it should be clear from the three existing schemes how schemes are defined. Christoph [1] http://mappa-mercia.org/novam/scripts/Novam/Schemes.js Thanks Christoph, I like my eponymous scheme - it does just what I need it to do. Seeing the tags on a selected stop is particularly easy. I would like the colour of the purple and grey tags to be a bit more distinct. May I suggest that the stops with a note tag (currently purple) be changed to orange so they stand out? Grey and purple were indeed a bit similar. Orange looks much better. Cheers, Christoph Errr, I think something has broken ... Upps, should work now. Forgot to test the latest changes in Firefox. Christoph The right hand panel is blank now and all the icons are grey. Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
