Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap U.S. Inc

2010-04-19 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:

 Hey All,

 Just wanted to let you know OpenStreetMap U.S. Inc exists now.  This
 is so we can eventually become a chapter of OpenStreetMap.  We'll be
 moving forward with getting an EIN (tax number) from the IRS, working
 out the Chapter agreement, etc shortly.


Thanks for all your (and the temp board's) hard work on this, Kate! Woohoo!
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Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap U.S. Inc

2010-04-19 Thread Jim McAndrew
Excellent news Kate! I know this has taken a lot of work from you and a few
others. It's great to see it all coming together!

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:

 Hey All,

 Just wanted to let you know OpenStreetMap U.S. Inc exists now.  This
 is so we can eventually become a chapter of OpenStreetMap.  We'll be
 moving forward with getting an EIN (tax number) from the IRS, working
 out the Chapter agreement, etc shortly.


 Thanks for all your (and the temp board's) hard work on this, Kate!
 Woohoo!

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Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap U.S. Inc

2010-04-19 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Thats great news! We should contact the software in the public interest
foundation for funding, they might give some money.
mike

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote:

 Excellent news Kate! I know this has taken a lot of work from you and a few
 others. It's great to see it all coming together!

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:

 Hey All,

 Just wanted to let you know OpenStreetMap U.S. Inc exists now.  This
 is so we can eventually become a chapter of OpenStreetMap.  We'll be
 moving forward with getting an EIN (tax number) from the IRS, working
 out the Chapter agreement, etc shortly.


 Thanks for all your (and the temp board's) hard work on this, Kate!
 Woohoo!

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Re: [Talk-us] Admin boundaries tied to roads

2010-04-19 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:

 From an old message:

  I take the point that 'road realignment' may
  require the boundary also to move, but the word is MAY and so what ever
  happens
  to the road, the location of the boundary needs to be checked separately!
  It is
  quite surprising in the UK how many roads are being moved, but that does
  not
  also move the original boundary.

  I see that the separate VS tangled argument has been settled in the US by
 the Duplicate Node attack bots, who have blindly merged all duplicate
 nodes.

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38855677


When I imported GNIS last year, a fairly significant portion of the data
(2-5%) had POI with coordinates exactly the same as another POI (e.g. a post
office inside a town hall building). I wonder what these duplicate nod bots
are doing with those nodes...
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Re: [Talk-us] Admin boundaries tied to roads

2010-04-19 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/19/10 1:45 PM, Mike N. wrote:
  From an old message:


 I take the point that 'road realignment' may
 require the boundary also to move, but the word is MAY and so what ever
 happens
 to the road, the location of the boundary needs to be checked separately!
 It is
 quite surprising in the UK how many roads are being moved, but that does
 not
 also move the original boundary.
  
I see that the separate VS tangled argument has been settled in the US by
 the Duplicate Node attack bots, who have blindly merged all duplicate
 nodes.

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38855677

i don't know if settled is the word for it, the debate is still open, 
but currently the
josm validator reports duplicate nodes as errors, and provides a fix 
button that
merges them. it's not fully automated like a bot, but the result is 
effectively the same.

richard


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Re: [Talk-us] Admin boundaries tied to roads

2010-04-19 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-04-19 10:45, Mike N. wrote:
   I see that the separate VS tangled argument has been settled in the US by
the Duplicate Node attack bots, who have blindly merged all duplicate
nodes.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38855677

Is this really happening? Can someone describe exactly what criteria are 
being used, and just how it was decided that this was a good idea? Seems 
like the wrong thing to do - city and county boundaries are often defined 
in law, or by survey, and do not necessarily keep up with changes in road 
alignment. I have resisted editing most of these boundaries until/unless I 
take the time to research the true definition of the boundary.

Not to mention that merging them will result in the inability to hide these 
boundaries. When doing a bunch of editing on a road that follows one, in 
the past, I've taken the time to verify that the boundary doesn't share any 
nodes with anything and then remove it from my local OSM file manually so I 
don't have to constantly deal with it. If it shares nodes with anything 
else, this is no longer possible.

Sounds a lot like the IMO ill-considered road name expansion that was 
apparently agreed upon by a small group of people without input from the 
majority of active mappers whose work has been damaged.

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Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net


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