Re: [Talk-us] Someone from Boston, MA? (off topic - Boston hotel name / address trivia)

2019-05-01 Thread Bill Ricker
>> This is one of those skyscrapers with a vanity "street" address with
>> no such street.
>> (To confuse matters further, there is also a Copley Place Hotel whose
>> address is NOT Copley Place!)

> Apparently there are even two such hotels.
I should clarify slightly, not that it really matters.

"Copley Place" is an invented name for the new mall/office/hotel
development over the Turnpike air-rights, punning on / borrowing from an
old place name, "Copley Square", which is nearby and is associated with
class.  Two of the four sides of Copley Square are the Boston Public
Library formal entrance and Trinity Church.

The "Westin Copley Place" was part of the Copley Place mall/office
development, is connected by air-bridge, to same, but uses a real street
address (10 Huntington Ave). The "Marriott Copley Place" is actually in the
Copley Place towers (not sure if it's tower 1 or 2?) but uses 110
Huntington Ave as its business address, go figure.

Nearby, the former "Copley Plaza Hotel", now  "Fairmont Copley Plaza" is
actually on Copley Square, while the "Copley Square Hotel" confusingly is
not, it's up a side street, 47 Huntington  (with side entrance on Exeter St
connecting to Copley Square's plaza; 2nd oldest in Boston).
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Re: [Talk-us] Someone from Boston, MA?

2019-05-01 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Thanks, this was quite helpful.

* Bill Ricker  [190430 05:47]:
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:12 PM Kevin Kenny  wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:01 PM Kevin Kenny  wrote:
>>> I'm not a Bostonian, but I've been to Copley Place.
>>> Copley Place is a named building: 
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240501783

> This local Bostonian concurs.

> This is one of those skyscrapers with a vanity "street" address with
> no such street.
> (To confuse matters further, there is also a Copley Place Hotel whose
> address is NOT Copley Place!)

Apparently there are even two such hotels.

>> more information https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copley_Place - the
>> building complex, in addition to the shopping mall, has office
>> buildings (tenants include the German and Canadian consulates, on the
>> fourth and fifth floors respectively of tower 3), hotels and a parking
>> garage, all connected.

> (and all-weather connections to adjacent malls and hotels too, and to
> two T (metro) lines and Amtrak rail.)
> (used to have a Cinema, but iirc it got consolidated out of existence?)

>> I'm not familiar enough with indoor mapping to be able to direct you
>> how to map a suite within the towers.

> A Consulate might prefer we not map the interior access?
> That level of detail is fine for retail but ... government entities
> can attract untoward attention.

I have no clue of indoor mapping myself, so I just placed two nodes in
what I estimated to be the rough location of tower 3 and tagged them as
the Canadian and German consulates.

Greetings,
Wolfgang
( lyx @ osm )

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Re: [Talk-us] Someone from Boston, MA?

2019-04-29 Thread Bill Ricker
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:12 PM Kevin Kenny  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:01 PM Kevin Kenny  wrote:
> > I'm not a Bostonian, but I've been to Copley Place.
> > Copley Place is a named building: 
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240501783

This local Bostonian concurs.

This is one of those skyscrapers with a vanity "street" address with
no such street.
(To confuse matters further, there is also a Copley Place Hotel whose
address is NOT Copley Place!)

> more information https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copley_Place - the
> building complex, in addition to the shopping mall, has office
> buildings (tenants include the German and Canadian consulates, on the
> fourth and fifth floors respectively of tower 3), hotels and a parking
> garage, all connected.

(and all-weather connections to adjacent malls and hotels too, and to
two T (metro) lines and Amtrak rail.)
(used to have a Cinema, but iirc it got consolidated out of existence?)

> I'm not familiar enough with indoor mapping to be able to direct you
> how to map a suite within the towers.

A Consulate might prefer we not map the interior access?
That level of detail is fine for retail but ... government entities
can attract untoward attention.

-- 
Bill Ricker
bill.n1...@gmail.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux

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Re: [Talk-us] Someone from Boston, MA?

2019-04-29 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:01 PM Kevin Kenny  wrote:
> I'm not a Bostonian, but I've been to Copley Place.
> Copley Place is a named building: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240501783

more information https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copley_Place - the
building complex, in addition to the shopping mall, has office
buildings (tenants include the German and Canadian consulates, on the
fourth and fifth floors respectively of tower 3), hotels and a parking
garage, all connected.

There's a detailed plan of the first few levels at
https://www.simon.com/mall/copley-place/map#/ - the menu at upper
right will let you select the levels, and the entrances to the towers
are on 'Sky Level'.

I'm not familiar enough with indoor mapping to be able to direct you
how to map a suite within the towers.

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Re: [Talk-us] Someone from Boston, MA?

2019-04-29 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:40 PM Wolfgang Zenker
 wrote:
> I tried to add the German Consulate General in Boston, MA, but could not
> find the address "Three Copley Place, Boston, MA 02116" in
> our data. That place is apparently somewhere near Boston University.
> Anyone local who could check if this is a missing street name in our
> data?
>
> consulate website: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240501783

I'm not a Bostonian, but I've been to Copley Place.
Copley Place is a named building: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240501783

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[Talk-us] Someone from Boston, MA?

2019-04-29 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
Hi,

I tried to add the German Consulate General in Boston, MA, but could not
find the address "Three Copley Place, Boston, MA 02116" in
our data. That place is apparently somewhere near Boston University.
Anyone local who could check if this is a missing street name in our
data?

consulate website: https://www.germany.info/us-en/embassy-consulates/boston

Greetings,
Wolfgang
( lyx @ osm )

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