Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 8:34 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us < talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > 27 Aug 2020, 14:37 by ian.d...@gmail.com: > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 03:03 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us < > talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > > Aug 27, 2020, 09:52 by frede...@remote.org: > > Hi, > > On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: > > They appear to be pulling straight from Google > > > Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from > Google). > > AFAIK it is not against OSM license but it is break terms of service set > by Google. > > > Since Google doesn't have a way to programmatically get this data about > places, it's more likely that Google and Mapcarta used the same data source > that list an incorrect phone number. > > At least some time ago Google Places > API existed. Is it shut down now? > > https://developers.google.com/places/web-service/overview > describes it as an existing > Yes, you can perform individual searches by address and/or place name, but it gets expensive quickly to make thousands of these calls so it's more likely that they're sharing a data source. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
27 Aug 2020, 14:37 by ian.d...@gmail.com: > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 03:03 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us <> > talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> Aug 27, 2020, 09:52 by >> frede...@remote.org>> : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: >>> They appear to be pulling straight from Google >>> >>> Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from >>> Google). >>> >> AFAIK it is not against OSM license but it is break terms of service set by >> Google. >> >> > > Since Google doesn't have a way to programmatically get this data about > places, it's more likely that Google and Mapcarta used the same data source > that list an incorrect phone number. > At least some time ago Google Places API existed. Is it shut down now? https://developers.google.com/places/web-service/overview describes it as an existing ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 03:03 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us < talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Aug 27, 2020, 09:52 by frede...@remote.org: > > Hi, > > On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: > > They appear to be pulling straight from Google > > > Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from > Google). > > AFAIK it is not against OSM license but it is break terms of service set > by Google. > Since Google doesn't have a way to programmatically get this data about places, it's more likely that Google and Mapcarta used the same data source that list an incorrect phone number. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
Aug 27, 2020, 09:52 by frede...@remote.org: > Hi, > > On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: > >> They appear to be pulling straight from Google >> > > Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from > Google). > AFAIK it is not against OSM license but it is break terms of service set by Google. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
Hi, On 27.08.20 00:30, Alex Weech wrote: > They appear to be pulling straight from Google Interesting! I didn't know you could (show an OSM map and pull POIs from Google). I'll relay that to them and suggest they discuss with Google. I'll also shoot Mapcarta a message, thanks Ian for pointing me to the contact, don't know why I missed that. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
They appear to be pulling straight from Google, which is probably driving a whole lot more traffic to that telephone number than MapCarta: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eagles+Campground/@41.2627649,-111.6961183,17.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x8753a519e0bdd163:0x85fa260f95cdae2a!8m2!3d41.2637729!4d-111.6944602?hl=en On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > does anyone have contacts with Mapcarta? > > https://mapcarta.com/Eagles_Campground_2422656 > > lists a camp ground that is not on OSM, and has never been, together > with a phone number that belongs to the USDA forest service and they're > not super stoked about would-be campers calling them to book. > > MapCarta claims to be using OpenStreetMap data (hence why the USDA > forest service contacted us). But clearly this campground comes from a > different source. (Which is just as well because Mapcarta doesn't have > proper attribution.) > > (The phone number in question was indeed recorded for a different camp > site in Utah, Monte Cristo Campground, and I've removed it from there. > Doesn't solve the Eagles Campground riddle though.) > > Mapcarta doesn't have any point of contact on the site and the whois > doesn't return anything useful either. > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapcarta with wrong info in Utah - whom to contact?
https://mapcarta.com/About_Mapcarta lists a contact email address: m...@imedia.io. On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 3:16 PM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > does anyone have contacts with Mapcarta? > > https://mapcarta.com/Eagles_Campground_2422656 > > lists a camp ground that is not on OSM, and has never been, together > with a phone number that belongs to the USDA forest service and they're > not super stoked about would-be campers calling them to book. > > MapCarta claims to be using OpenStreetMap data (hence why the USDA > forest service contacted us). But clearly this campground comes from a > different source. (Which is just as well because Mapcarta doesn't have > proper attribution.) > > (The phone number in question was indeed recorded for a different camp > site in Utah, Monte Cristo Campground, and I've removed it from there. > Doesn't solve the Eagles Campground riddle though.) > > Mapcarta doesn't have any point of contact on the site and the whois > doesn't return anything useful either. > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
