Re: [Tango-L] Lead an invitation that can be ignored or faught
My reaction to Laurie's statement was different than that of some on this list. I simply took it as a statement of fact, acknowledging that women are active participants in a dance, not puppets. Most of the time they seek to relax into the direction the leader supplies, but IN AN EMERGENCY it is not only their right but their duty to ignore or resist a lead. For instance, if to follow it would cause me to crash into someone. Or to hurt her. (Some time back a favorite partner resisted doing boleos and ochos, explaining that she had hurt her back recently.) Most often a woman ignores a lead because she does not understand it. Possibly she's never learned the proper response. But it could also be because I was not clear in my lead. Before guys get all huffy and swear never to dance with someone again they should ask themselves if her lack of response or resistance is THEIR fault. Larry de Los Angeles Free information on Trade Schools. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iigk8ruSDlwiEQxeDYgcQk9JBmxXFZHPrVLpjSdHPSqj02gp0/ ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] How to initiate lean
The answer to this question is: all of the above! Both methods mentioned so far work: suspension and placing a woman's free foot behind her supporting foot with a slight twist of the leader's upper body as if about to lead a backward ocho or a back boleo. A third tactic (which no one has yet mentioned) is to lead the volcada (or any other action) slowly. Or at least not to hurry it. It takes humans at least 1/4 second to react to anything, and usually much closer to 1/2 second. A leader can't act as if his partner is a robot with millisecond response times. A fourth tactic is to judge your partner's response. Does it seem as if she knows what you are requesting? Or is she totally bewildered and maybe panicked by what you are asking? Partner dancing is like any form of communication. One should use such methods as good grammar and emphasis and re-phrasing a request so one speaks clearly. And one should listen to one's listeners to be sure they understood you. Larry de Los Angeles Click for free quote on refinancing your mortgage. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iifTCL4Cb94Azh0SNOBA6pR7FCeSOVGlmc6r5WJ0uC2A33OUK/ ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Omar Vega
I just got horrible news about Omar Vega. He had a massive allergy attack and died. I thought that everyone who knew him would want to know. He was a great talent and one of the most creative and musical dancers I ever knew. I have not yet heard when the funeral will be but will forward any more information I recieve. How sad. Robin Tara ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Omar Vega
People have been asking about Omar. They are asking if it was really a drug overdose - I don't know, but I never knew Omar to be involved with drugs. He may have hung out with folks who were, but I never knew him to be a druggie. I have been told that he was an orphan who grew up on the streets on Buenos Aires, clowning, juggling and boxing to make a living. They say he couldn't read, and although this is probably true, he was a VERY quick study and could learn anything he set his mind to. He was an amazing mimic. I remember walking down the streets of Manhattan with him and moment by moment he would become the person who had just passed us. He could immediately take on the aspect of anyone who caught his attention. I believe he was not appreciated enough for his amazing ability as a dancer. The first tim eI met him was back in Buenos Aires at La Confiteria Ideal in 1994. He was dancing with Rebecca Schulman, late, late at night when the place was almost empty. It was an eye opening experience. And I will never forget the night in New York at one of Daniel and Marias milongas when he and Rebecca danced to Huracan. It was mesmerizing. I also remember one night at El Beso when I complained to Omar that the music was boring to me. He said I'll show you this music. All of a sudden, dancing with him, the music came alive. I heard things I had never heard before and will probably never hear again. This is what a real dancer can give to a partner. He was a dancer. Robin ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Omar Vega
I have not contributed to this list for years, but with the death of Omar Vega I will take the risk. Omar was teaching in Seattle several years ago and I was hosting a weekly milonga at my home with many local dancers. Omar and Bill Peterson joined us one night for a lovely evening of dance. Honoring the hostess -- me -- Omar danced several dances with me and I was thrilled with his genius and skill. Later we talked of his life history. In addition to what Robin wrote, he had served in the military for Argentina in the Malvinas/Falklands war which actually wounded him deeply, although not literally. What a loss for the Tango community. As Robin says, he was a dancer. Mary Jane Seattle and Phoenix **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Sad News: Omar Vega passed away in BA
Lamentamos informar que en el día de la fecha ha dejado de existir en esta ciudad de Buenos Aires el gran bailarín, coreógrafo y amigo Omar Vega passed awaySus restos serán velados en Thames 1161 a partir de esta noche (19 de septiembre) a las 22 horas, y hasta las 11. Yahoo! Cocina Recetas prácticas y comida saludable http://ar.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Omar Vega
I have heard a little about his history and what has been written matches up. One story I heard is that when he started dancing tango he was doing all sorts of crazy stuff on the dance floor. The men made him stop and he sat for two years before they let him dance. Then he started developing the amazing style that was truly his own. This is unconfirmed. I am not going to mention about his personal life. But two things are for sure. One: He was an amazing dancer, and helped a lot of people understand A. Tango a lot better. Two: Anyone I know, that has met or known Omar. Has at least one Omar Vega story. He will be missed greatly not only as a fantastic dancer, but also as a life character. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 6:28 PM To: tango-l@mit.edu Subject: [Tango-L] Omar Vega I have not contributed to this list for years, but with the death of Omar Vega I will take the risk. Omar was teaching in Seattle several years ago and I was hosting a weekly milonga at my home with many local dancers. Omar and Bill Peterson joined us one night for a lovely evening of dance. Honoring the hostess -- me -- Omar danced several dances with me and I was thrilled with his genius and skill. Later we talked of his life history. In addition to what Robin wrote, he had served in the military for Argentina in the Malvinas/Falklands war which actually wounded him deeply, although not literally. What a loss for the Tango community. As Robin says, he was a dancer. Mary Jane Seattle and Phoenix **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1680 - Release Date: 9/19/2008 8:25 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1680 - Release Date: 9/19/2008 8:25 AM ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Omar Vega
Hi Robin... there were no drugs or alcohol involved. Omar has been sufering from very bad asthma for some time and was on a lot of medication every since he stopped drinking last year. ...so please try to quell the nasty rumors... Omar was clean the last year of his life. (And he never did like drugs...) take care... Ilene robin tara wrote: People have been asking about Omar. They are asking if it was really a drug overdose - I don't know, but I never knew Omar to be involved with drugs. He may have hung out with folks who were, but I never knew him to be a druggie. I have been told that he was an orphan who grew up on the streets on Buenos Aires, clowning, juggling and boxing to make a living. They say he couldn't read, and although this is probably true, he was a VERY quick study and could learn anything he set his mind to. He was an amazing mimic. I remember walking down the streets of Manhattan with him and moment by moment he would become the person who had just passed us. He could immediately take on the aspect of anyone who caught his attention. I believe he was not appreciated enough for his amazing ability as a dancer. The first tim eI met him was back in Buenos Aires at La Confiteria Ideal in 1994. He was dancing with Rebecca Schulman, late, late at night when the place was almost empty. It was an eye opening experience. And I will never forget the night in New York at one of Daniel and Marias milongas when he and Rebecca danced to Huracan. It was mesmerizing. I also remember one night at El Beso when I complained to Omar that the music was boring to me. He said I'll show you this music. All of a sudden, dancing with him, the music came alive. I heard things I had never heard before and will probably never hear again. This is what a real dancer can give to a partner. He was a dancer. Robin ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
