Re: [Tango-L] Molinetes - the REAL tango basic

2008-06-23 Thread Alexis Cousein
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 Have you learned molinetes, also called giros?  If so, you know what 
 many Argentines consider the real tango basic.  The linear pattern of 
 the 8CB and its cousins are derided by some as tango for foreigners.  

Given what foreigners can do to a ronda with just *one* back step and
a forward moving pattern, one shudders at the tought of tango lessons
using an in-place (and isotropic -- insert moves at any point and in any 
orientation!) molinete as the basic, though.

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[Tango-L] Molinetes - the REAL tango basic

2008-06-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you learned molinetes, also called giros?  If so, you know what 
many Argentines consider the real tango basic.  The linear pattern of 
the 8CB and its cousins are derided by some as tango for foreigners.  
Mingo Pugliese was one of the foremost champions of the molinete.

Molinete means wheel and there are several variations.  For instance, 
the man acts as the hub and the woman the rim, doing a grapevine around 
him, taking four, six, or eight steps.  In another variation both 
complete a circle around a center point.  And the man can do a 
grapevine around his partner while she acts as the hub.

Giros make a lot of sense in very tight crowds.  They are compact and 
do not have to travel, although they can.
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Here are some videos.  The examples happens in the the first ten-to-
thirty seconds.

The grapevine done in 4 steps around a center point.  (You can also do 
it in 6 or 8 steps around a center point.  Or more pairs of steps if 
doing it in a line or long curve.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0TQZmfgKmg

In these two videos the man stays in the center.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfmmWqXTDKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRe7verxzu8

Here the two dancers make a circle around a center point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPoBN-x--WM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wtBAjSdM1w

You can add sacadas and barridas to giros.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54hsLwvx1iw

And finally a beautiful longer piece by two professionals to a vals.  
They stay in the same spot, a small balcony or the top of a set of 
stairs. They do all three variations of the giro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWRCYIc3Hqo


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