[Tango-L] The Volcada
The discussion of the volcada which Jean-Pierre Sighe pointed out http://www.tangomagdalena.com/Newsletters/vol11_july08.html totally misrepresents what a volcada is (as well as being confusing in other ways). Volcada comes from the verb meaning to tip over, or pull off balance. It is an extreme lean. That is all. Not an extreme lean + a wide front boleo ending in a cruzada, as people might think because the three are often put together. Dancers can simply do a volcada and then recover to a normal embrace. Or they can hold the carpa (literally tent, an upside-down V stance) for a few beats. Or do a drag. Or a carousel. Or several other actions. Including the popular wide front boleo ending in a cross. there are lots of variations on the woman's front boleo. One is to make it an amague, a kick straight back instead of to the side wrapping around the woman's knee. Nor need it need to end in a cruzada, as the article suggests. The front boleo could lead into a normal boleo, followed by another front boleo. And finally into the woman stepping straight back with the free foot instead of a cross in front. If anybody cares to talk more about volcadas, we might talk about how to lead into it. But this message is long enough already. Larry de Los Angeles PS The volcada is not a nuevo tango move. It was old in 1989 when I started tango, long before anyone heard the term nuevo tango used to label a way of dancing. Make your vacation more memorable with a luxurious vacation rental. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iiflWOBrJpR30AG5wgriYqFnXeNzKL4Ct3zuUeR4Og8LgKt26/ ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] The Volcada
Man, I'm glad I'm not a teacher trying to explain a figure on this list. Not with critics like Larry around and just waiting to pounce. Personally, I thought JPS did a good job in explaining the most common and popular form of Volcada and I've little doubt that he explains it and its different forms in more detail during his classes. It certainly didn't find it ... totally misrepresents what a volcada is and I didn't find it ... confusing. Larry's rambling comments, on the other hand, would, I am sure, confuse those who do not already know what is a Volcada. Btw Larry, you recently confessed to not knowing the difference between an 'open' step and a 'crossed' step. I did take some time and trouble to explain that but received no feedback. I hope you found my comments useful. Jack - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The discussion of the volcada which Jean-Pierre Sighe pointed out http://www.tangomagdalena.com/Newsletters/vol11_july08.html totally misrepresents what a volcada is (as well as being confusing in other ways). ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] The Volcada
Larry, There shouldn't be any confusion about what I wrote. Your definition of Volcada is absolutely correct. I am describing what is known these days as the figure called Volcada (that is the move indeed executed over and over with the wide front boleo ending in a cruzada. I am focusing on its proper construction. The premise of my remark is simple : There cannot be a lean if the man has not executed the proper tent. The tent by itself is an important element to have if one wants to have the lady lean + execute a wide front boleo. Of course, there are many variations on the theme, if one is creative. Thank you for your point well taken. Jean-Pierre S. --- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tango-L@mit.edu Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:17 PM Subject: [Tango-L] The Volcada The discussion of the volcada which Jean-Pierre Sighe pointed out http://www.tangomagdalena.com/Newsletters/vol11_july08.html totally misrepresents what a volcada is (as well as being confusing in other ways). Volcada comes from the verb meaning to tip over, or pull off balance. It is an extreme lean. That is all. Not an extreme lean + a wide front boleo ending in a cruzada, as people might think because the three are often put together. Dancers can simply do a volcada and then recover to a normal embrace. Or they can hold the carpa (literally tent, an upside-down V stance) for a few beats. Or do a drag. Or a carousel. Or several other actions. Including the popular wide front boleo ending in a cross. there are lots of variations on the woman's front boleo. One is to make it an amague, a kick straight back instead of to the side wrapping around the woman's knee. Nor need it need to end in a cruzada, as the article suggests. The front boleo could lead into a normal boleo, followed by another front boleo. And finally into the woman stepping straight back with the free foot instead of a cross in front. If anybody cares to talk more about volcadas, we might talk about how to lead into it. But this message is long enough already. Larry de Los Angeles PS The volcada is not a nuevo tango move. It was old in 1989 when I started tango, long before anyone heard the term nuevo tango used to label a way of dancing. Make your vacation more memorable with a luxurious vacation rental. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/Ioyw6iiflWOBrJpR30AG5wgriYqFnXeNzKL4Ct3zuUeR4Og8LgKt26/ ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
