Re: 4.0.24.9

2008-05-13 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Maxim,


MM [!] Preview in quick templates

This actually should be read as template output preview in QT editor
:-)


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Re: 4.0.24.9

2008-05-13 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Tuesday, May 13, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

MM [!] Preview in quick templates

 This actually should be read as template output preview in QT editor
 :-)

I like it, I hope, account and folder properties will have this too.

BTW I have tested this and seems like macros in QT are overwritten by
folder template...

BTW2 please do not forget to save dialog size and separators position,
template part is very small now.

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Re: 4.0.24.9

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
 MM [!] Preview in quick templates

 This actually should be read as template output preview in QT editor
 :-)
   
see pre-revprop-change.tmpl
rulez forever

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Small help - as a reminder

2008-05-13 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear all,

I haven't done it for quit some times - installing a newer Beta
Version over my existing v3.95.6. So I need a little help as a
reminder in order not to do it wrong and bust my registration.

The latest .msi I have downloaded is 'International Pack v4.0.24' and
'TB!pro v4.0.24'. Further I have the latest .rar file.

Ok I remember first to install the .msi and then the latest .rar over
it. But, do I first install the 'Pro' and then the 'Int pack' or vice
versa? In addition, which is now the latest .msi I can use without any
problem (e.g. not functioning QT etc)?

Your help is appreciated. Thank you!


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Re: 4.0.24.9

2008-05-13 Thread Jon Polish
On Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 4:19:11 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST Hello Maxim,


MM [!] Preview in quick templates

ST This actually should be read as template output preview in QT editor
ST :-)

I tried the preview for a template containing %Subject. It does not
appear under preview, but it does work when queuing  the message. Is
this correct behavior for preview?

This change to the QT editor is very welcome. Great job!

Jon

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Re: 4.0.24.9

2008-05-13 Thread Jon Polish
On Monday, May 12, 2008, 4:48:14 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM The Bat! 4.0.24.9 is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40249.rar

MM What's new in 4.0.24.9 since 4.0.24.8:
MM [!] Preview in quick templates
MM [-] Exceptions log might grow large when IMAP had invalid dates
MM [-] Fixed an AV in certificate handling



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Hi Maxim:

I still have the Unknown CA Certificate problem for one account as
mentioned here
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Did the information I gave you help?

Jon

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Re: 4.0.24.9

2008-05-13 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Jon,

JP I tried the preview for a template containing %Subject. It does not
JP appear under preview, but it does work when queuing  the message. Is
JP this correct behavior for preview?

Well, I don't quite understand what it means. Do you have %subject
in the template and the test message (by default, it's the selected
one in the main window) has non-empty subject and you see nothing
instead of the macro in the body when you open preview and similation
mode is Reply or Forward?

What does queuing mean in this context?

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Re: 4.0.24.9

2008-05-13 Thread Jon Polish
On Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:57:38 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST Hello Jon,

JP I tried the preview for a template containing %Subject. It does not
JP appear under preview, but it does work when queuing  the message. Is
JP this correct behavior for preview?

ST Well, I don't quite understand what it means. Do you have %subject
ST in the template and the test message (by default, it's the selected
ST one in the main window) has non-empty subject and you see nothing
ST instead of the macro in the body when you open preview and similation
ST mode is Reply or Forward?

ST What does queuing mean in this context?

Sorry if I was not clear. The %Subject macro is in the template. When
I preview the template, I do not see the macro in the message body.
This is expected. But the subject field is not populated when I
preview the template. Is this by design? I would think that the
preview would include the subject if one exists.

The reason I mentioned queuing the template is because I wanted to
demonstrate that the macro was correctly formed. So I select a
recipient and queue the message in the outbox. The subject field is
correctly populated.

Doe this clarify things?

Jon

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Re[2]: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Monday, May 12, 2008, 9:48:20 AM, you wrote:

 ...and while your at it - fix the whole of IMAP!

I think the counters are the main problem with IMAP. There are others, too, but 
the counters drive people mad. 

We are faced with this bug for every new email that arrives! (emails not 
recognized as been read, animated icon, etc.). 

Stefan or Maxim, could you please let us know what will happen with this. Will 
this be looked at in the near future?

It's really frustrating seeing minor bugs being solved or new features being 
implemented while facing these serious issues for every new mail.


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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Carsten,

On 13-05-2008 17:12, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It's really frustrating seeing minor bugs being solved or new features
 being implemented while facing these serious issues for every new
 mail.

Agreed.

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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread Rimvydas Zilinskas
Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote:

 I think the counters are the main problem with IMAP. There are others, too, 
 but the counters drive people mad. 
 We are faced with this bug for every new email that arrives! (emails not 
 recognized as been read, animated icon, etc.). 
 Stefan or Maxim, could you please let us know what will happen with this. 
 Will this be looked at in the near future?
 It's really frustrating seeing minor bugs being solved or new features being 
 implemented while facing these serious issues for every new mail.

Carsten, so nice to see that I'm not the only one with this bug. In 
general this particular bug still keeps me on thunderbird. I think that 
our responses to new betas released could be:

Up and running but IMAP counters are still not fixed:)


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Re: Small help - as a reminder

2008-05-13 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Eddie,

on  Tue, 13 May 2008 13:53:58 +0200GMT (13.05.2008, 13:53 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

EC Ok I remember first to install the .msi and then the latest .rar over
EC it. But, do I first install the 'Pro' and then the 'Int pack' or vice
EC versa?

If you install the pro version there is no need to install the
intpack. It is included in pro and is only needed with the home
version.

EC In addition, which is now the latest .msi I can use without any
EC problem (e.g. not functioning QT etc)?

I think 4.0.24 is the one.

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Empty messages from the bug tracker

2008-05-13 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi all,

when will this be fixed? I still keep getting those empty mails. See
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6704

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Re[2]: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


RZ Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote:

 at  in  the  near future? It's really frustrating seeing minor bugs
 being  solved  or new features being implemented while facing these
 serious issues for every new mail.

RZ Carsten,  so  nice to see that I'm not the only one with this bug.
RZ In  general  this  particular bug still keeps me on thunderbird. I
RZ think that our responses to new betas released could be:

RZ Up and running but IMAP counters are still not fixed:)

Please,  don't  do  it.
The  programmers  at RitLabs are very sensitive people and could reply
something like this (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) to you.

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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 12:16:07 AM, you wrote:

 Vilius Šumskas wrote:
 I'm wondering where their management is looking?
 yikes! what's that?

 Do they even have any?
   
 i concur to this question.

That explains everything.

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Re[2]: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Vilius,

Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 11:20:43 AM, you wrote:

 Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 12:16:07 AM, you wrote:

 Vilius Šumskas wrote:
 I'm wondering where their management is looking?
 yikes! what's that?

 Do they even have any?
   
 i concur to this question.

 That explains everything.

I don't think that quick, smart-a__ criticisms of Rit Labs help 
anyone.  It is an unconstructive way of dealing with your own 
frustrations, I believe.  It would be better to go on a long walk in 
the woods or something.

-- 

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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vilius Šumskas wrote:
 That explains everything.
   
not really.
from how i remember the guys in older times, they were the team that 
doesn't quite need management.

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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread Rick
 Vilius Šumskas wrote:
 That explains everything.
   
 not really.
 from how i remember the guys in older times, they were the team that 
 doesn't quite need management.

I am a bit curious. What's the point of this?

They are constantly fixing things but in one area of the program at a
time, which isn't always MY personal choice for fixes and wishes but
they ARE working and making progress.

-- 
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Republican Tax Cuts for the wealthy
Look where it has got us so far!
Lets do it some more!

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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick wrote:
 They are constantly fixing things but in one area of the program at a
 time, which isn't always MY personal choice for fixes and wishes but
 they ARE working and making progress.
   
sure they are fixing.
but this IMAP counters topic comes up again and again.
sort of like people want synchronous counters on an asynchronous imap 
client implementation and don't quite figure that out for years.

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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick wrote:
 I am a bit curious. What's the point of this?
   
i think, point is, to make clear once and for good who exactly need 
management at Ritlabs.
it ain't ritlabs that needs it. rather, the users need it.

and, management being a SERVICE, question is - who is ready to pay for it?

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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Bob Riley wrote:
 I don't think that quick, smart-a__ criticisms of Rit Labs help 
 anyone.
absolutely!
out of all these people that are constantly nagging to one deficiency or 
another, who is really ready to work for ritlabs and provide a fix?
not as a permanent job, cuz the software is not sold as a service. just 
fix it (and, of course, not break everything around), get the one-time 
payment, then go on.
anyone?

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Re: OT: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
 This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this
 on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain
 threading.)
   
it'll die there without raising the desired awareness.

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Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Goncalo Farias wrote:
 The  programmers  at RitLabs are very sensitive people and could reply
 something like this (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) to you.
   
being sensitive is totally different from being selfish.
and the tagline of that mid explains it pretty well.

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