Re: Mod: Bad language (was: Broken Exchange send)

2008-08-17 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Roelof,

V Fuck man, it is an English list. Where are the moderators I am 
V sure, I will get an email for the language... :(
 And right you are. :-)

There were several emails in Russian, German, etc. I hoped if I swear,
I get the attention of the moderators :)

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Re[3]: 4.0.28.2

2008-08-17 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Maxim,

 Because a lot of innocent users are suffering from the providers,
 mainly in the U.S.:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bat!#Forged_headers

Ritlabs   should   sue   the  mass  mailers'  developers.  They  forge
INTENTIONALLY  the  X-Mailer  header  that  has bad effect on Ritlabs'
business. Simple.

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X-Mailer header (was: 4.0.28.2)

2008-08-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Kertész,

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:15:22 +0200 GMT (17/08/2008, 20:15 +0700 GMT),
Kertész Vilmos wrote:

 Because a lot of innocent users are suffering from the providers,
 mainly in the U.S.:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bat!#Forged_headers

KV Ritlabs   should   sue   the  mass  mailers'  developers.  They  forge
KV INTENTIONALLY  the  X-Mailer  header  that  has bad effect on Ritlabs'
KV business. Simple.

I agree. But how practical is that advice? If those developers are in
another country, imagine the legal cost involved.

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Re[2]: 4.0.28.2

2008-08-17 Thread Morton A. Goldberg, DVM
Hi, Thomas ---

Saturday, August 16, 2008, 11:06:43 PM, you wrote:


TF Up and running. However, due to the Unread tab not having been fixed,
TF I cannot use it in the office.

Please add a note about this to the bug tracker at
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 . This bug has incorrectly
been marked as Fixed when it is anything but. Even Robert, who first
made the bug report, thought it was fixed until I pointed out the
problem to him.

If those of us who care about this bug don't speak up and let Stefan and
the other programmers know that there's a serious problem here that requires
further attention, who will?


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Unread tab (was: 4.0.28.2)

2008-08-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Morton,

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:44:40 -0500 GMT (17/08/2008, 22:44 +0700 GMT),
Morton A. Goldberg, DVM wrote:

TF Up and running. However, due to the Unread tab not having been fixed,
TF I cannot use it in the office.

MAGD Please add a note about this to the bug tracker at
MAGD https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 .

Done. BTW tomtpe is me, I created the login when I lived in Taipei.

MAGD This bug has incorrectly been marked as Fixed when it is
MAGD anything but.

It is marked as verify wait. This means Ritlabs consider it fixed
but are waiting for further confirmation - by us.

MAGD If those of us who care about this bug don't speak up and let
MAGD Stefan and the other programmers know that there's a serious
MAGD problem here that requires further attention, who will?

Don't worry, this is what the beta list is for.

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Re: Unread tab (was: 4.0.28.2)

2008-08-17 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Thomas,

Sunday, August 17, 2008, 10:12:16 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Morton,

 On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:44:40 -0500 GMT (17/08/2008, 22:44 +0700 GMT),
 Morton A. Goldberg, DVM wrote:

Your email identification label called to mind this news item:

http://www.businessinberkshire.co.uk/businessinberkshire/extra109.html

I believe you were a founding member of that 12-step recovery group.

:)

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Emailaholics International (was: Unread tab (was: 4.0.28.2))

2008-08-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Bob,

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:35:38 -0600 GMT (17/08/2008, 23:35 +0700 GMT),
Bob Riley wrote:

BR Your email identification label called to mind this news item:

BR http://www.businessinberkshire.co.uk/businessinberkshire/extra109.html

BR I believe you were a founding member of that 12-step recovery group.

BR :)

No, I am a founding member of another (6-step) group! It was conceived
on this very list.

Leif Gregory is the author of the steps. I cannot find them on my
computer now, so if Leif or another member could post them here again,
that would be great.

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Re: Priority of common rules ?

2008-08-17 Thread MAU
Hello Albrecht,

 I find out that the known rule in the accounts goes before common 
 rules ? IMHO that isn't correct. Isn't it right that common rules should
 always go before account rules ?

Are you sure your Common filter(s) is/are shared with the proper 
account(s)?

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Re: (OT) Emailaholics International

2008-08-17 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas,

on Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:50:36 +0700GMT (17.08.2008, 18:50 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

TF No, I am a founding member of another (6-step) group! It was conceived
TF on this very list.

TF Leif Gregory is the author of the steps. I cannot find them on my
TF computer now, so if Leif or another member could post them here again,
TF that would be great.

I can. :)

E-mailaholics International

E-mailaholics International is a non-registered bunch of people who
feel committed to the development of e-mail as a means of
communication. You can declare yourself a member, if you feel that you
belong there. It was first formulated by Leif Gregory and a number of
members of The Bat! Users' Discussion List (TBUDL). Here are the
levels of EMA as drawn up at that time.

EMA - E-mailaholic pronounced like you were going to say the word
e-mail but without the il.., i.e., ee-ma-holics...

 
 The 5-level EM scale 

Level 1

Are you sure that you even know what e-mail is? You probably send all
of your holiday greetings on actual paper cards. You prefer to use a
pen and paper, and think e-mail is some new-fangled doodad that
interferes with your cutesy little post-it note campaign. Your family
and friends come first in your life. You think a filter is something
that you put in a coffee machine. You think that level 4 EMs are
demented, and that level 5 EMs should be considered legally insane.

Level 2

You prefer handwritten communication over e-mail, but at least
recognize its usefulness. You have plenty of time for family and
friends. You know how to set up limited filters, but only have a
couple because you only receive a few e-mails a day.

Level 3

You are nearing the point of no return. You are but a few UDLs (User
Discussion Lists) from attaining the next level. Keep working at it.
However, be forewarned that your family may come to regard you as more
of a furniture fixture than a human. You prefer e-mail over
handwritten communications and still obtain the ability to write
legibly in cursive. You have obtained the perfect equilibrium between
family, friends, the Internet, and a real life. Your filtering
subsystem is substantial, and wows many Internet users. There are
slight butt-cheek grooves in your chair. You look up to level 4 EMs as
saints, and level 5 EMs as exotic.

Level 4

You are a shining example of EMness. Perfection is but a few e-mails
away. You can use a pen and paper in extreme emergencies, but only by
printing; cursive now eludes you. Close family members must e-mail you
to get you to come in for dinner. You vaguely remember the names of
friends who are without e-mail addresses. Your filtering subsystem is
so complex that all but the most astute of alpha-geeks will be lost in
its complexities. There are deep butt-cheek ruts in your chair.
Oftentimes, of their own volition, your fingers will move into the
position necessary to press the hotkeys for checking e-mail. People
will remember you for years to come as your posts are scattered far
and wide throughout many mailing list archives, which will be
referenced time and time again. You look upon level 5 EMs as demigods.

Level 5

You are an incorrigible and incontrovertible EM; the epitome of all
that is EMness. You are considered by aspiring EMs as the shining
light at the end of the tunnel. You are undoubtedly the reason that
your ISP has spent ungodly amounts of money to upgrade their
bandwidth. You stare in wonder at those who still possess the ability
to write with a pen. You vaguely remember the names of close family
members who are without e-mail addresses, and you refer to your
friends not by name, but by their e-mail address. Your filtering
subsystem is so advanced that it is almost self-aware. NASA scientists
plan to model their next neural net from it...Once they figure it out
that is! You have worn out a few chairs in your time. You have a
permanent disfigurement in which your fingers are fixed at the exact
width needed to push the hotkeys to check your e-mail. Be proud, you
are a leader among leaders. Never let it be said that your Internet
existence was spent in vain, as your postings are forever immortalized
in all mailing list archives around the world.

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Re: MSI

2008-08-17 Thread Francis Dhumes
Hello Maxim,

Thursday, August 14, 2008 at 19:52:39, you wrote :
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-28.msi

Now I have two entries in the Add/Remove Programs in the control
panel:
-  The Bat! Professional v4.0.16 installed 9/3/2008 (french date
formatting)
-  The Bat! Professional v4.0.28 installed 15/8/2008 (french date
formatting)
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Re: MSI

2008-08-17 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Francis Dhumes wrote on 18/08/2008 at 08:48:30 +1100 
subject MSI :

 Hello Maxim,

 Thursday, August 14, 2008 at 19:52:39, you wrote :
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-28.msi

 Now I have two entries in the Add/Remove Programs in the control
 panel:
 -  The Bat! Professional v4.0.16 installed 9/3/2008 (french date
 formatting)
 -  The Bat! Professional v4.0.28 installed 15/8/2008 (french date
 formatting)

Not confirmed here on Win2k. I only have TB! 4.0.28 in the control
pannel - Add/Remove

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Re: X-Mailer header (was: 4.0.28.2)

2008-08-17 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Thomas,

 Because a lot of innocent users are suffering from the providers,
 mainly in the U.S.:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bat!#Forged_headers
KV Ritlabs   should   sue   the  mass  mailers'  developers.  They  forge
KV INTENTIONALLY  the  X-Mailer  header  that  has bad effect on Ritlabs'
KV business. Simple.
 I agree. But how practical is that advice? If those developers are in
 another country, imagine the legal cost involved.

They have to sue them in Moldova. Or just write a virus that takes out
that mailer and upload it everywhere.

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Re: (OT) Emailaholics International

2008-08-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:17:15 +0200 GMT (18/08/2008, 03:17 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

TF Leif Gregory is the author of the steps. I cannot find them on my
TF computer now, so if Leif or another member could post them here again,
TF that would be great.

PM I can. :)

Thanks for helping out. I've parked it now and hope I can find when I
need it again.

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before you need it.
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Re: Mod: Bad language (was: Broken Exchange send)

2008-08-17 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Vili,

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:02:59 +0200GMT (17-8-2008, 15:02 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

V I get the attention of the moderators :)

Next time try an off list message, might do the trick just as well.

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Re[2]: MSI

2008-08-17 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, at 09:49:08 [GMT +1100] (which was 0:49 where I
live) Hendrik Oesterlin wrote:

 Not confirmed here on Win2k. I only have TB! 4.0.28 in the control
 pannel - Add/Remove

Similar situation here.

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Re: 4.0.28.2

2008-08-17 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Maxim,

Saturday, August 16, 2008, 11:12:41 AM, you wrote:

 [-] (#0007187) Using MS Exchange (MAPI) messages stay on the outbox without 
 being sent

I tested it today at my work and indeed is working fine! 

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