Re: 4.1.11.12
Hello Volker, Thursday, April 9, 2009 at 00:05:37, you wrote : VA The alignments of the *captions* (i.e. column headers) are meant. :oops: no post after 23:00 ! I can confirm now, I'm awaken . -- Regards, Francis mailto:fran...@dhumes.fr Message handmade on TB! 4.1.11.10 on Windows XP 2600 AntispamSniper for TB! 3.2.0.1 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Number of attachments
Thanks for the new updates. I am not very happy with the icon of number of attachents. If there are one, two or three - then it's ok. But today I got a message with 10 attachments - and see the picture... Well I could enlarge the column size - but it's not the solution. -- Best regards, Martin mailto:dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2attachment: attachment.png Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.1.11.6: Problems with TLS/SSL over Exim4 mail server
Hello, TheBat is suffering problems with TLS over SMTP with Exim4 mail servers. On mailservers over SMTP (STARTTLS) or SMTPS the connection is interrupted. Bug tracked as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7524 Anyone having encountered the same problems with TLS/SSL and exim? -- Kind regards GwenDragon Webmistress Using The Bat! 4.1.11.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Website: http://www.gwendragon.de/ E-Mail: g...@gwendragon.de == PGP == E-Mail mit GnuPG signiert/Signed with GnuPG GnuPG-Signatur DSA/1024 Key-ID: 0x6E56AC7D4492AD16 / 0x4492AD16 Fingerprint: 0BC8 DDF7 E381 190B AF7D A327 6E56 AC7D 4492 AD16 == PGP == pgp6q16xSzyhz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
[Reply to: »Martin Schoch« · 2009-04-09 · 11:38 h (CET)] Moin, Martin! But today I got a message with 10 attachments - and see the picture... Ummm … very nice! Well I could enlarge the column size - but it's not the solution. I would suggest … - … to make this feature optional (as already said). - … and/or remove the icon in the background of the number. IMO that icon is needless, because the number itself is an indicator for an attachment. Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using /\^o^/\! 4.1.11.12 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Number of attachments
Hello Volker, Thursday, April 09, 2009, 13:06:57, you wrote: - … and/or remove the icon in the background of the number. IMO that icon is needless, because the number itself is an indicator for an attachment. That's what I wanted to say. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[TheBat! 4.1.11.12] AVG 8.5 antivirus plugin not scanning mails
Hello, TheBat! and antivirus plugin AVG 8.5 does not cooperate any more in 4.1.11.x betas. In 4.1.11.12 the log says: 09.04.2009, 11:24:27: ANTIVIRUS - Prüfung eingehender POP3 Nachrichten auf Viren 09.04.2009, 11:24:27: ANTIVIRUS - Es wurde kein Anti-Virus-Plugins zur Überprüfung des Objektes gefunden. That means: Scanning incoming POP3 messages for viruses No antivirus plugin found to scan object Bug tracked as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7549 On 4.1.11 Final all is running fine. Anyone having problems with AVG's antivirus plugins? -- Kind regards GwenDragon Webmistress Using The Bat! 4.1.11.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Website: http://www.gwendragon.de/ E-Mail: g...@gwendragon.de == PGP == E-Mail mit GnuPG signiert/Signed with GnuPG GnuPG-Signatur DSA/1024 Key-ID: 0x6E56AC7D4492AD16 / 0x4492AD16 Fingerprint: 0BC8 DDF7 E381 190B AF7D A327 6E56 AC7D 4492 AD16 == PGP == pgpft4N9GA4OR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
[Reply to: »Martin Schoch« · 2009-04-09 · 13:00 h (CET)] Moin, Martin! Yes - only digits (right-justified) and no graphic would be a good solution. Yep! :-) BTW. The numbers in the columns Total Messages and Unread Messages should be right-justified and not left-justified - in my opinion. Old problem, but here is the solution: - Close The Bat! - Run regedit - Choose HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RightAlignFolderCounters - Set value to 1 - Close regedit - Restart The Bat! and you are done. ;-) HTH Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using /\^o^/\! 4.1.11.12 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Volker On Thursday, April 9, 2009 1:19:54 PM you wrote: Old problem, but here is the solution: - Close The Bat! - Run regedit - Choose HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RightAlignFolderCounters - Set value to 1 - Close regedit - Restart The Bat! and you are done. ;-) Thanks for the hint ... but here nothing changes - total and unread messages columns are still left-justified - in the message list pane - in the folder list pane they are right-justified. -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2attachment: columns.png Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
[Reply to: »Martin Schoch« · 2009-04-09 · 13:35 h (CET)] Moin, Martin! Thanks for the hint ... but here nothing changes - total and unread messages columns are still left-justified - in the message list pane - in the folder list pane they are right-justified. Oh, now I see. The columns Unread and Total are always hidden here, so was not aware of them. I thought you talked about the folder list pane. – Maybe the RITguys can change this, too. Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using /\^o^/\! 4.1.11.12 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly vanish and be replaced by something even more bizarre and incomprehensible. There is another theory which states that this has already happened …« Douglas Adams ('52 - '01), »The Restaurant at the End of the Universe« Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello Martin, Thursday, April 09, 2009, 12:38:19, you wrote: But today I got a message with 10 attachments - and see the picture... Well I could enlarge the column size - but it's not the solution. I don't think that it is a problem. I think that it is OK. We can only leave the digits in this column, no grahpics and it will still be OK. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello Maxim I don't think that it is a problem. I think that it is OK. We can only leave the digits in this column, no grahpics and it will still be OK. Yes - only digits (right-justified) and no graphic would be a good solution. BTW. The numbers in the columns Total Messages and Unread Messages should be right-justified and not left-justified - in my opinion. Thanks again. -- Best regards, Martin mailto:dagob...@yahoo.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta not working with Windows 7 Build 7077
On Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 5:49:14 PM, Scott Sims wrote: That is not a very good response. This is very much likly to be the RC1 maybe it will. but it isn't now. seems very reasonable to worry about released software, not everchanging betas. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.11.12 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 3) Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.11.6: Problems with TLS/SSL over Exim4 mail server
On Thursday, April 9, 2009, 11:59:29, GwenDragon wrote: Anyone having encountered the same problems with TLS/SSL and exim? I'm using STARTTLS with Postfix, and don't have any problems. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 4.1.11.12 on Windows Vista 6.0.6001.Service Pack 1 ] The minute you sign a client is the minute you start to lose him. -- Public Relations Client Turnover Law Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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test -- Art Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands. :flag-cayman: __ TheBat! Pro v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TheBat! 4.1.11.12] AVG 8.5 antivirus plugin not scanning mails
Donnerstag, 9. April 2009 at 11:48, GwenDragon wrote: Anyone having problems with AVG's antivirus plugins? I have AVG since i know the first programmer of it and i am in good touch with the crew - but i always use Personal E-Mail Scanner to be sure all in and outgoing e-mail of all applications are scanned. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Donnerstag, 9. April 2009 at 12:06, Volker Ahrendt wrote: - … and/or remove the icon in the background of the number. IMO that icon is needless, because the number itself is an indicator for an attachment. Or show the Icon for ONE Attachment and Numbers if they are more than one. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Donnerstag, 9. April 2009 at 13:19, Volker Ahrendt wrote: - Choose HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RightAlignFolderCounters - Set value to 1 Put it in the Wiki :-) You are a hacker ;-) -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:
Dear Listuser, @9-Apr-2009, 12:40 -0500 (09-Apr 18:40 here) Art [L] in mid:1478116509.20090409124...@candw.ky said: L test My guess ... fail! (lack of subject and sent to 2 mailing lists - has to be incorrectly written folder template). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.1.11.12 on Windows Vista 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 ' pgphyPZJvqBlR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
- … and/or remove the icon in the background of the number. IMO that icon is needless, because the number itself is an indicator for an attachment. Or show the Icon for ONE Attachment and Numbers if they are more than one. I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs). I did not quite follow the thread, but I dont see why showing the number of attach is useful. Next will be number of words, statistics on of letters used? Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Vili, on Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:02:57 -0400GMT (09.04.2009, 21:02 +0200GMT here), you wrote: [attachment icon with numbers] V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.1.11.12 :beta: on WinXP, SP3, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several news groups via MyGate OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 1024 MB RAM Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Vili, on Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:02:57 -0400GMT (09.04.2009, 21:02 +0200GMT here), you wrote: [attachment icon with numbers] V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. -- Rick Dreams come true on this side of the Rainbow too! v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Vili On Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:02:57 PM you wrote: I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs). I did not quite follow the thread, but I dont see why showing the number of attach is useful. Next will be number of words, statistics on of letters used? Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... Hmm - there is *always* and *still* an other bug to fix... -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs). I did not quite follow the thread, but I dont see why showing the number of attach is useful. Next will be number of words, statistics on of letters used? Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... Hmm - there is *always* and *still* an other bug to fix... Then it's time to start fixing them... Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello Vili, I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs). I did not quite follow the thread, but I dont see why showing the number of attach is useful. It surely is useful, I does help to keep this list alive with a lot of discussions. You know, if the feature should be optional, or if the number should be left or right aligned, of if the column width should be wider to allow both the number and the icon. Really interesting discussions. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 See some of my photos at http://www.Rancho-K.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:
Yep, it was more like an oops... I initiated a send from my TBBeta folder, and the reply template includes tbb...@thebat.dutaint.com.. Not to mention it's taken me about 10 times subscribing and unsubscribing to successfully start getting e-mail from the list again.. Weird.. On 4/9/2009, 2:00 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in mid:190679213.20090409200...@silverstones.com My guess ... fail! (lack of subject and sent to 2 mailing lists - has to be incorrectly written folder template). Ack.. All the best.. -- Art Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands. :flag-cayman: __ The Bat! Pro v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
On Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:10:00 PM, Vili wrote: What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? I've never gotten more attachments than I could count, usually without having to take off even one shoe. This feature seems so useless and unnecessary, I don't know why someone thought of it. Reminds me of a kid who doesn't want to go to bed, so keeps thinking of excuses. Except avoidance is not of bed but of tackling the real problems. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.11.12 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 3) Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
On Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:10:00 PM, Vili wrote: What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? I've never gotten more attachments than I could count, usually without having to take off even one shoe. This feature seems so useless and unnecessary, I don't know why someone thought of it. Reminds me of a kid who doesn't want to go to bed, so keeps thinking of excuses. Except avoidance is not of bed but of tackling the real problems. I get emails with graphics attached and it is nice to be able to look down the list and see the number. As I said, I wouldn't have kicked and stamped my feet for such a feature but I am finding it handy. It also counts the attachments in attached emails. -- Rick The fragrance always stays in the hand that gives the rose. - Hada Bejar v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello Rick, It also counts the attachments in attached emails. Wooow! That's great, ain't it! ;-)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 See some of my photos at http://www.Rancho-K.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello Rick, It also counts the attachments in attached emails. Wooow! That's great, ain't it! ;-)) I am truly HAPPY that you are so enthused!!! :) -- Rick Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest. - Alexandre Dumas v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Vili On Thursday, April 9, 2009 10:10:00 PM you wrote: V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? Who decides if a feature is useful or not? In my opinion: Exactly this list is a place to *discuss* it - it's not you who *decide* it - I think... Anyway: If Ritlabs implements a feature it should be implemented in a good way - and this contains also a cosmetic view. -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html