Re: Postponed Sending dialogue

2009-04-29 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2009-04-29 · 01:05 h (CET)]

 The problem is in this case the user will have to click the GUI for
 each for the message sent, like in Outlook. We want to give an
 option to to configure the postponed sending autmatically for every
 message, so the user will simply press send button on the toolbar
 (or the corresponding keystroke) and the message will be immediately
 closed and scheduled for delivery. Your suggestion makes this
 impossible.

 Okay, now here are my reworked ideas. And of course the first one is
 meant seriously. ;-)

A few more thoughts brought me to this real flexible solution (see
attachment).

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[4.1.11.18] Browse deleted Messages Move/Copy to folder

2009-04-29 Thread GwenDragon
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The message can be browsed, but not moved.
Undelete works, but this does not move.

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[4.1.11.18] Browse deleted Messages Move/Copy to folder

2009-04-29 Thread GwenDragon
Hello,

Using TheBat's menue with Browse deleted Messages and then Move to
folder or Copy to
folder doesn't not work.
The message can be browsed, but not moved.
Undelete works, but this does not move.

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Re: [4.1.11.18] Browse deleted Messages Move/Copy to folder

2009-04-29 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello GwenDragon,

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:40:54 +0200GMT GwenDragon wrote:

G Using TheBat's menue with Browser deleted Messages and then Move to 
folder or Move to
G folder doesn't not work.
G The message can be browsed, but not moved.

confirmed

G Undelete works, but this does not move.

it restores the message to the folder where it was deleted from. wad

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Re: [4.1.11.18] Browse deleted Messages Move/Copy to folder

2009-04-29 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo GwenDragon,

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:41:39 +0200GMT (29-4-2009, 14:41 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

G Using TheBat's menue with Browse deleted Messages and then Move to
G folder or Copy to  folder doesn't not work.

Over here it does.

G The message can be browsed, but not moved.

Yes,  it  can  be  copied  or moved, but as you don't undelete it, it
shows  as  a deleted message in the target folder. It's a wad I guess,
not a bug.

G Undelete works, but this does not move.

It shouldn't move, should it?

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Re[2]: Postponed Sending dialogue

2009-04-29 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Volker,

Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:52:32 PM, you wrote:

Okay, leave the info, that the postponed message will be sent on …

But the test section – even for messages that are automatically
created by sorting office filters or by mass mailing quick templates –
is IMHO of no real need.

That's why we have implemented the More button. Those who do not need it, 
won't click More button and won't be confused.


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Re: Postponed Sending dialogue

2009-04-29 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-04-29 · 15:59 h (CET)]

Moin, Maxim!

But the test section – even for messages that are automatically
created by sorting office filters or by mass mailing quick templates –
is IMHO of no real need.

 That's why we have implemented the More button. Those who do not
 need it, won't click More button and won't be confused.

Did you see my latest draft for the dialog?

= mid:566587429.20090429112...@ahrendt.net

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Re: Postponed Sending dialogue

2009-04-29 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2009-04-29 · 17:42 h (CET)]

 [Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2009-04-29 · 15:59 h (CET)]

But the test section – even for messages that are automatically
created by sorting office filters or by mass mailing quick
templates – is IMHO of no real need.

 That's why we have implemented the More button. Those who do not
 need it, won't click More button and won't be confused.

One addition: The confusion is caused by this:

= mid:1663363721.20090428112...@ahrendt.net

And that has nearly nothing to do with the [More]-Button. So please
think about my dialog draft. :-)

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Re: Postponed Sending dialogue

2009-04-29 Thread Steve Harris
I can't believe so much time is being devoted to the Postponed Sending
dialogue subject. Is there not more important issues?..

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Re: Postponed Sending dialogue

2009-04-29 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Steve Harris« · 2009-04-29 · 17:56 h (CET)]

 I can't believe so much time is being devoted to the Postponed
 Sending dialogue subject. Is there not more important issues?..

IMAP? Drafts folder? Number of attachments? … Um, no!

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Re: Postponed Sending dialogue

2009-04-29 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Steve,

on  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:56:20 +0100GMT (29.04.2009, 17:56 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

SH I can't believe so much time is being devoted to the Postponed Sending
SH dialogue subject. Is there not more important issues?..

I agree with you here completely.

How about proper S/MIME support?

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Re: S/MIME: new key problem in 4.1.11.18 or earlier

2009-04-29 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi,

on  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:14:26 +0200GMT I wrote:

PM last week I imported new S/MIME keys from Thawte because my old ones
PM had expired. I can see them well in the vCardFile account.vcf, but
PM when I select to use S/MIME with a new message, the new key does not
PM appear in the list of available keys. So S/MIME is unusable for me
PM right now. :(

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Re: S/MIME: new key problem in 4.1.11.18 or earlier

2009-04-29 Thread Marcus Jaeger

 on  Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:14:26 +0200GMT I wrote:

PM last week I imported new S/MIME keys from Thawte because my old ones
PM had expired. I can see them well in the vCardFile account.vcf, but
PM when I select to use S/MIME with a new message, the new key does not
PM appear in the list of available keys. So S/MIME is unusable for me
PM right now. :(

 I added a BT entry, because this really annoys me.
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7573


Seem to have run into the same issue. Needed to install a new cert. It is in 
the account properties, vcard, but I can not use it. Tried 2 different supplies.

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Re: [4.1.11.18] Browse deleted Messages Move/Copy to folder

2009-04-29 Thread GwenDragon
Hello Roelof Otten,
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, at 15:35:01 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:35 where I
live) Roelof Otten wrote:

G The message can be browsed, but not moved.

 Yes,  it  can  be  copied  or moved, but as you don't undelete it, it
 shows  as  a deleted message in the target folder. It's a wad I guess,
 not a bug.
Hmm, in my opinion it should be better to undelete and move in one
action  using Move to folder. Invisible moves are not
comprehensible by many users. Work flow is important.

G Undelete works, but this does not move.

 It shouldn't move, should it?
No, it should not. I wanted to express, that undelete is not very useful in
the described situation. ;)





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Re: S/MIME: new key problem in 4.1.11.18 or earlier

2009-04-29 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Marcus,

on  Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:28:53 +0200GMT (29.04.2009, 19:28 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

PM last week I imported new S/MIME keys from Thawte because my old ones
PM had expired. I can see them well in the vCardFile account.vcf, but
PM when I select to use S/MIME with a new message, the new key does not
PM appear in the list of available keys. So S/MIME is unusable for me
PM right now. :(

 I added a BT entry, because this really annoys me.
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7573


MJ Seem to have run into the same issue. Needed to install a new
MJ cert. It is in the account properties, vcard, but I can not use it. Tried 2 
different supplies.

A confirmation of yours on the BugTracker might bring some help. :)

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Re: Postponed Sending dialogue

2009-04-29 Thread NetVicious
miércoles, 29 abr 2009 at 11:25, it seems you wrote:

 A few more thoughts brought me to this real flexible solution (see
 attachment).

Your  draft02 gets my vote. But I think radiobuttons should not be on 
the left of the other. They should be below the previous one.

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