Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-25 Thread MAU
Hello Volker,

 Taken to extremes, one could ask: If you say Plain is plain, why …

 - … does the PTV show text formatting (e.g. bold, italic, underline,
   colors) for different parts of a message (quotations, signature,
   hyperlinks)? – Maybe in the interest of improving readability ;-)

I must admit you have a point there.

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[The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Volker Ahrendt
Moin, folks!

And another real old wish, which is worth it to be implemented:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1902

*That* would be a /great/ _improvement_!

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Francis Dhumes
Hellor Volker,

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 at 13:07:02, you wrote :
VA And another real old wish, which is worth it to be implemented:
VA https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1902
VA *That* would be a /great/ _improvement_!

1) get the file ftp://ftp2.dhumes.fr/dhumes/thebat/txt2html.regexps
2) put it in the TB! installation directory (where thebat.exe is
stored)
3) restart TB!: you got it !

Now have a look at your mail ...
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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Francis Dhumes
I reply to myself,

FD 1) get the file ftp://ftp2.dhumes.fr/dhumes/thebat/txt2html.regexps
FD 2) put it in the TB! installation directory (where thebat.exe is
FD stored)
FD 3) restart TB!: you got it !
FD Now have a look at your mail ...

Of course, if you use PTV, you have only plain text. There are no reasons to be
different: plain is plain, rich is rich.
You can find the txt2html.regexps file elsewere.

The question is: why isn't it in the standard installation of TB! ?
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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Francis Dhumes« · 2009-03-24 · 14:17 h (CET)]

Moin, Francis!

 1) get the file ftp://ftp2.dhumes.fr/dhumes/thebat/txt2html.regexps
 2) put it in the TB! installation directory (where thebat.exe is
stored)
 3) restart TB!: you got it !

 Now have a look at your mail ...

Thanks for that hint, but as I already wrote in the BT report:

I do not think that the solution mentioned above is enough, because it
only works with the Rich Text Viewer. But my favourite viewer is the
Plain Text Viewer.

Cheers!
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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Volker,

on  Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:05:35 +0100GMT (24.03.2009, 15:05 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

VA I do not think that the solution mentioned above is enough, because it
VA only works with the Rich Text Viewer. But my favourite viewer is the
VA Plain Text Viewer.

As Francis stated, plain text is _plain text_, and that's what it
should be. For example, I sometimes have to switch to PTV to view a
script that contains asterisks or underscores, and I need to see it
_plain_, in no way altered. So please don't allow the PTV to show
anything else than *plain text*.

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Jens Franik

Dienstag, 24. März 2009 at 14:17, Francis Dhumes wrote:

VA And another real old wish, which is worth it to be implemented:
VA https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1902
VA *That* would be a /great/ _improvement_!

 1) get the file ftp://ftp2.dhumes.fr/dhumes/thebat/txt2html.regexps
 2) put it in the TB! installation directory (where thebat.exe is
 stored)
 3) restart TB!: you got it !

 Now have a look at your mail ...

Why not the Bat strip off all Features and implement a programming
Language instead - so everybody can script his own features.

I repeatedly say: I don't need a Mailclient which is based on
Workarounds.

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Jens Franik

Dienstag, 24. März 2009 at 18:22, Peter Meyns wrote:

VA I do not think that the solution mentioned above is enough, because it
VA only works with the Rich Text Viewer. But my favourite viewer is the
VA Plain Text Viewer.

 As Francis stated, plain text is _plain text_, and that's what it
 should be. For example, I sometimes have to switch to PTV to view a
 script that contains asterisks or underscores, and I need to see it
 _plain_, in no way altered. So please don't allow the PTV to show
 anything else than *plain text*.

I did not think about this bevor and i understand it is right.

Maybe there could be a Fancy-Plaintext-Viewer with Smilieys and
replaces and the Orginal Plaintext without anything else than Text.

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Tuesday, March 24, 2009, Jens Franik wrote:

 Why not the Bat strip off all Features and implement a programming
 Language instead - so everybody can script his own features.

 I repeatedly say: I don't need a Mailclient which is based on
 Workarounds.

Jens, other clients have RTV only, The Bat! has additionally PTV. What is
the reason to have two RTVs? Plain is plain.

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens,

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:44:05 +0100 GMT (25/Mar/09, 0:44 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

JF Maybe there could be a Fancy-Plaintext-Viewer with Smilieys and
JF replaces and the Orginal Plaintext without anything else than Text.

How many viewers you want in one email client?

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jens,

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:40:31 +0100 GMT (25/Mar/09, 0:40 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

JF Why not the Bat strip off all Features and implement a programming
JF Language instead - so everybody can script his own features.

JF I repeatedly say: I don't need a Mailclient which is based on
JF Workarounds.

I do like an email client that allows plug-ins. Oops, that what TB!
already is. The subject of this thread is a good example.

If you are into programing features, there is an API. I don't have it
because I don't program any more, but please look around or contact
Ritlabs directly.

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread MAU
Hello Jens,

 Maybe there could be a Fancy-Plaintext-Viewer with Smilieys and
 replaces and the Orginal Plaintext without anything else than Text.

There is already a Fancy-Plaintext-Viewer with Smilieys, it's called 
RTV. Maybe you can log a wishlist item to rename it FTV :)

I can't really believe this discussion is going on :-(

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Rick
 Hello Jens,

 Maybe there could be a Fancy-Plaintext-Viewer with Smilieys and
 replaces and the Orginal Plaintext without anything else than Text.

 There is already a Fancy-Plaintext-Viewer with Smilieys, it's called
 RTV. Maybe you can log a wishlist item to rename it FTV :)

 I can't really believe this discussion is going on :-(

It is my friend. Why don't we discuss editing the subject line or better yet - 
DRAFT FOLDERS! :))

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Peter Meyns« · 2009-03-24 · 18:22 h (CET)]

Moin, Peter!

 I do not think that the solution mentioned above is enough, because
 it only works with the Rich Text Viewer. But my favourite viewer is
 the Plain Text Viewer.

 As Francis stated, plain text is _plain text_, and that's what it
 should be. For example, I sometimes have to switch to PTV to view a
 script that contains asterisks or underscores, and I need to see it
 _plain_, in no way altered.

Okay, that is a valid point. :-)

But there are some reasons, why I do not want to use the RTV, e.g.:

- https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6937

- For the solution, which Francis mentioned, graphical icons for
  smileys in RTV have to enabled, but I *hate* these ones. ;-)

 So please don't allow the PTV to show anything else than *plain
 text*.

As I am a friend of optional features in several (or most?) cases, it
maybe would be a compromise to have a checkbox for this feature like
for graphical emoticons:

- Options|Preferences…|Viewer/E. [x] Use Smiley icons in HTML viewer

  == [x] Use *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough- with real
  formatting

Just a suggestion … :-)

Cheers!
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Re[2]: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Van Noord
3/24/2009  5:16 PM

Hi MAU,

On 3/24/2009 MAU wrote:

M There is already a Fancy-Plaintext-Viewer with Smilieys, it's called
M RTV. Maybe you can log a wishlist item to rename it FTV :)

M I can't really believe this discussion is going on :-(

Me either!

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Re[2]: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Van Noord
3/24/2009  5:14 PM

Hi Peter,

On 3/24/2009 Peter Meyns wrote:

PM As Francis stated, plain text is _plain text_, and that's what it
PM should be. For example, I sometimes have to switch to PTV to view a
PM script that contains asterisks or underscores, and I need to see it
PM _plain_, in no way altered. So please don't allow the PTV to show
PM anything else than *plain text*.

YES! Plain text _must_ always be _plain_!

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Jens Franik

Dienstag, 24. März 2009 at 18:45, Marek Mikus wrote:

 Jens, other clients have RTV only, The Bat! has additionally PTV. What is
 the reason to have two RTVs? Plain is plain.

Rarely but true, after thinking about i would not change the PTV, i
agree.

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Jens Franik

Dienstag, 24. März 2009 at 20:52, MAU wrote:

 Maybe there could be a Fancy-Plaintext-Viewer with Smilieys and
 replaces and the Orginal Plaintext without anything else than Text.

 There is already a Fancy-Plaintext-Viewer with Smilieys, it's called
 RTV. Maybe you can log a wishlist item to rename it FTV :)

 I can't really believe this discussion is going on :-(

So do i, because i already agree that PTV should be unchanged.
RTV can be used for this Fancy Things, this should work.

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2009-03-24 · 18:45 h (CET)]

Moin, Marek!

 I repeatedly say: I don't need a Mailclient which is based on
 Workarounds.

 Jens, other clients have RTV only, The Bat! has additionally PTV.
 What is the reason to have two RTVs? Plain is plain.

Taken to extremes, one could ask: If you say Plain is plain, why …

- … does the PTV show text formatting (e.g. bold, italic, underline,
  colors) for different parts of a message (quotations, signature,
  hyperlinks)? – Maybe in the interest of improving readability ;-)

- … have the statuses of the wishes 1902 [1] and 3123 [2] been set to
  feedback or new for *years*, instead of closed with the
  corresponding comment Obsolete because of the brilliant workaround
  named »txt2html.regexps«, furthermore PTV must not show any text
  formattings.? ;-)

I do not want to be a nitpicker, so I can live without this feature,
although I love the idea of a native (and optional) support of such
text formattings.

No offense meant! – Cheers!
VA

[1] https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1902
[2] https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3123

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Re: [The Bat! Wishes] Text Formatting of *bold*, /italic/, _underline_, -strikethrough-

2009-03-24 Thread Robin Anson
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 at 21:52:16 +0100, Volker wrote:
 But there are some reasons, why I do not want to use the RTV, e.g.:
 
 - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6937
 
 - For the solution, which Francis mentioned, graphical icons for
   smileys in RTV have to enabled, but I *hate* these ones. ;-)

So do I, so I renamed the directory with the default images. Problem solved
in a way that I don't find onerous.

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