Re: Development for URL manager

2009-01-12 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 12. Januar 2009 at 03:36, Kertész Vilmos wrote:

 TB's development's direction should favor the average user, not the
 geeks by my opinion.

That's  about  to  discuss, because i know more Geeks than Users which
have The Bat! installed.

If it is possible to set it up easy for a User and enable Geek Options
afterwards - i would find it the best idea.

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Re: Development for URL manager

2009-01-12 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Kertész,

KV Sometimes  I  get  these  phishing  mails.  Easy  to recognize, as the
KV visible link and the link if I would click on it are different.

It's already planned, though I don't see how it's connected to the URL
Manager.

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Re: Development for URL manager

2009-01-12 Thread Vili
KV Sometimes  I  get  these  phishing  mails.  Easy  to recognize, as the
KV visible link and the link if I would click on it are different.
 It's already planned, though I don't see how it's connected to the URL
 Manager.

Hmm... you are right. It is not connected really. I just opened up it
when I had this idea. Good to hear that you will implement it.
-- 
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Re: Development for URL manager

2009-01-12 Thread Vili
 TB's development's direction should favor the average user, not the
 geeks by my opinion.
 That's  about  to  discuss, because i know more Geeks than Users which
 have The Bat! installed.
 If it is possible to set it up easy for a User and enable Geek Options
 afterwards - i would find it the best idea.

Agree.

Ok, let's call it Expert User option, so we dont hurt our feelings :)

Vili


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Re[2]: Development for URL manager

2009-01-11 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Peter,

KV Sometimes  I  get  these  phishing  mails.  Easy  to recognize, as the
KV visible link and the link if I would click on it are different.
KV How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this 
KV visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something?
 I don't think it is necessary. When I hover the mouse on the link the
 underlying URL is shown - that's good enough for me. I wouldn't want
 yet another popup.

I  dont want to write it down many times, but I will do it once again,
using  different  words: TB's development's direction should favor the
average user, not the geeks by my opinion.

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Re[3]: Development for URL manager

2009-01-11 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello NetVicious,

 I don't think it is necessary. When I hover the mouse on the link the
 underlying URL is shown - that's good enough for me. I wouldn't want
 yet another popup.
 Ritlabs could add one option for enable/disable this warning.

Yes, that's possible.

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Development for URL manager

2009-01-10 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Sometimes  I  get  these  phishing  mails.  Easy  to recognize, as the
visible link and the link if I would click on it are different.

How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this 
visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something?

-- 
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Re: Development for URL manager

2009-01-10 Thread MAU
Hello Kertész,

 Sometimes  I  get  these  phishing  mails.  Easy  to recognize, as the
 visible link and the link if I would click on it are different.

 How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this 
 visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something?

What about the click *HERE* or to _unsubscribe_ type links, they are
always different.

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Re[2]: Development for URL manager

2009-01-10 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello MAU,

 Sometimes  I  get  these  phishing  mails.  Easy  to recognize, as the
 visible link and the link if I would click on it are different.
 How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this 
 visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something?
 What about the click *HERE* or to _unsubscribe_ type links, they are
 always different.

Check if the visible link is a weblink, not just a word.

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Re[2]: Development for URL manager

2009-01-10 Thread NetVicious
sábado, 10 ene 2009 at 13:07, it seems you wrote:

 What about the click *HERE* or to _unsubscribe_ type links, they are
 always different.

Kertész, it's talking about this type of links:

a href='http://www.hacked_domain.com/bad_dir/something'
http://www.yourbank.com
/a




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Re: Development for URL manager

2009-01-10 Thread MAU
Hello NetVicious,

 Kertész, it's talking about this type of links:

 a href='http://www.hacked_domain.com/bad_dir/something'
 http://www.yourbank.com
 /a

Ahhh! Thanks for the clarification. I could have never guessed that was 
what Vili meant. Then I think its a great idea. ;-)

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Re: Development for URL manager

2009-01-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Kertész,

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:48 +0059 GMT (10/01/2009, 18:03 +0700 GMT),
Kertész Vilmos wrote:

KV Sometimes  I  get  these  phishing  mails.  Easy  to recognize, as the
KV visible link and the link if I would click on it are different.

Same here.

KV How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this 
KV visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something?

I wouldn't want that.

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Re: Development for URL manager

2009-01-10 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Kertész,

on  Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:48 +0059GMT (10.01.2009, 12:03 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

KV Sometimes  I  get  these  phishing  mails.  Easy  to recognize, as the
KV visible link and the link if I would click on it are different.

KV How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this 
KV visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something?

I don't think it is necessary. When I hover the mouse on the link the
underlying URL is shown - that's good enough for me. I wouldn't want
yet another popup.

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Re: Development for URL manager

2009-01-10 Thread Jens Franik

Samstag, 10. Januar 2009 at 12:03, Kertész Vilmos wrote:

 Sometimes  I  get  these  phishing  mails.  Easy  to recognize, as the
 visible link and the link if I would click on it are different.

 How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this 
 visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something?

Good  Idea,  another  possibility  is,  an extended check, because the
shown part of the Link could also be Text-only.

So,  Links  which  are  shown as they are, could open directly - other
could  pop  up  an  Window  with  exact Details (configurable as Basic
Phishing Control).

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Re[2]: Development for URL manager

2009-01-10 Thread NetVicious
sábado, 10 ene 2009 at 18:25, it seems you wrote:

 I don't think it is necessary. When I hover the mouse on the link the
 underlying URL is shown - that's good enough for me. I wouldn't want
 yet another popup.

Ritlabs could add one option for enable/disable this warning.

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