Re: 4.1.11.15 - Number of attachments now not showing up
G'day, Just to report that with 4.1.11.15, the number of attachments are not showing up in the message list now. Confirmed :) -- Rick Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay for awhile and leave footprints on our hearts. And we are never, ever the same. - Unknown v4.1.11.15 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
jueves, 9 abr 2009 at 12:44, it seems you wrote: I don't think that it is a problem. I think that it is OK. We can only leave the digits in this column, no grahpics and it will still be OK. Anyway to write the numbers of attachments in a lower font size? -- /\/ Using The Bat! 4.1.11.13 Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 4.1.11.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
I don't think that it is a problem. I think that it is OK. We can only leave the digits in this column, no grahpics and it will still be OK. Anyway to write the numbers of attachments in a lower font size? At me the numbers only appears when I click into the list of mails. If I select a new folder, only the attach icon shows up. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Freitag, 10. April 2009 at 23:35, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: See attachment TNX -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello Dwight, Thursday, April 9, 2009, 11:53:10 PM, you wrote: DAC Reminds me of a DAC kid who doesn't want to go to bed, so keeps thinking of excuses. DAC Except avoidance is not of bed but of tackling the real problems. Oh, you're talking about Obamatactics! But isn't that OT? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.1.11.12 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 (0 days 0:40:52) on Dual Intel Pentium III Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
[Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2009-04-09 · 20:29 h (CET)] Moin, Jens! - Choose HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RightAlignFolderCounters - Set value to 1 Put it in the Wiki :-) You are a hacker ;-) No, not really. See mid:1541882940.20080209093...@thebat.net. Wolfgang S. is the keyword here. You know, Jens? ;-) Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using /\^o^/\! 4.1.11.12 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Last Chance to See« Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Given the diverse response to the number of attachments column, can we move on? The point has been made. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, The Desk Consulting Group Inc., Oakville, Ontario, Canada. e-mail: je...@thedesk.ca Web: http://www.thedesk.ca Phone: 905-825-9938 or 1-877-763-7776 -Original Message- From: Martin Schoch dagob...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:44:47 To: Vilitbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: Number of attachments Hi Vili On Thursday, April 9, 2009 10:10:00 PM you wrote: V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? Who decides if a feature is useful or not? In my opinion: Exactly this list is a place to *discuss* it - it's not you who *decide* it - I think... Anyway: If Ritlabs implements a feature it should be implemented in a good way - and this contains also a cosmetic view. -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Ethan On Friday, April 10, 2009 1:30:16 PM you wrote: Given the diverse response to the number of attachments column, can we move on? The point has been made. Yes, I think so. -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Number of attachments
V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? Who decides if a feature is useful or not? Common sense. Which is less and less currently. If a client can download email, useful. If a client has a bug in the SMTP auth window, useless. Check it: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7523 This IS a real problem, people cannot send mails if they dont know the workaround. It would be USEFUL if this problem would be fixed instead of cosmetic changes. I always feel that we should add REAL users to the betalist to refresh the blood. I meet with them on a daily basis, so I try to suggest what they say... Their message: no more features, fix the errors. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Kertész On Friday, April 10, 2009 2:11:05 PM you wrote: V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? Who decides if a feature is useful or not? Common sense. Which is less and less currently. If a client can download email, useful. If a client has a bug in the SMTP auth window, useless. Check it: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7523 This IS a real problem, people cannot send mails if they dont know the workaround. It would be USEFUL if this problem would be fixed instead of cosmetic changes. Of course real problems have priority - but cosmetic bugs have to be solved as well. Do you buy a software which is ugly because of a bad and buggy layout? The real world is not digital :-) -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello all, Thursday, April 9, 2009, Vili wrote: What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? for me it is useful when expecting or finding a message, where i know what numbers message approximately consists. This could be solved by common icon with included number. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.11.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.0.1 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Number of attachments
This IS a real problem, people cannot send mails if they dont know the workaround. It would be USEFUL if this problem would be fixed instead of cosmetic changes. Of course real problems have priority - but cosmetic bugs have to be solved as well. Do you buy a software which is ugly because of a bad and buggy layout? The real world is not digital :-) Real world users doesn't care about ugly interface. They do their work and go home. -- Vilius Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello Vilius, Friday, April 10, 2009, 2:53:03 PM, you wrote: VŠ Real world users doesn't care about ugly interface. They do their work and VŠ go home. On the contrary. Most prefer nice looking inferior software. And as if that was not enough: they go home without doing their work! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.1.11.12 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 (0 days 5:56:35) on Dual Intel Pentium III Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Common sense. Which is less and less currently. If a client can download email, useful. If a client has a bug in the SMTP auth window, useless. Check it: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7523 This IS a real problem, people cannot send mails if they dont know the workaround. It would be USEFUL if this problem would be fixed instead of cosmetic changes. Of course real problems have priority - but cosmetic bugs have to be solved as well. Do you buy a software which is ugly because of a bad and buggy layout? Dont forget, this new stuff was introduced BEFORE bugs were solved. Caused only troubles, needs to spend more energy on solving problems that would not have been. I am pretty sure that Max and the guys work hard, because life in Moldova is not as easy as in the US, Germany, and not even like in Hungary. They have families, kids to support, and life outside of TB. As all of us (I hope). That is why I am suprised: they should manage their energy MUCH better. Working on the IMPORTANT things. I will get a lot of angry emails, but let me be honest and share my view working with software companies from all over the world: programmers east from and including Austria are very good. Until and including Russia. Programming is like art for them. They are artists. German, English and US programmers are not that good as them (they still good, but they are not that enthuastic, that is just a job for them). But making a software is not just coding it. It includes management of it, as well. And here the table turns: Hungary is kind of in the middle in it. We listen, fix the bugs, but manuals... eh... Many times missing. East from us it is terrible: like artists, they forget about manuals, dont fix bugs, dont answer to customers, etc. West from us, including US: professional customer care. Even the smallest, one member company, even if it does not show you a phone number on ther websit answers you in 1 day, answer all your questions in details, give you the full package, detailes manuals and so. Summary: I like to business with Austria best :) They never failed me. Ok, exceptions can be found everywhere. Anyway, this is my two cents. I just wish if Ritlabs would be as professional as it software was, and kind of still is, in their management. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Vilius On Friday, April 10, 2009 2:53:03 PM you wrote: Of course real problems have priority - but cosmetic bugs have to be solved as well. Do you buy a software which is ugly because of a bad and buggy layout? The real world is not digital :-) Real world users doesn't care about ugly interface. They do their work and go home. Oh yes I see, you are using Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 ;-) SCNR -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Number of attachments
Oh yes I see, you are using Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 ;-) At least is has real IMAP support. -- Vilius Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
On Friday, April 10, 2009, 16:54:27, Vilius Šumskas wrote: At least is has real IMAP support. It does? I'd really like to see this alternate reality Outlook that has supposedly better IMAP support than The Bat - at my workplace, we tried all versions of Outlook from 2000 to 2007 SP2 with little success when using IMAP. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 4.1.11.12 on Windows Vista 6.0.6001.Service Pack 1 ] The first sample is always the best. -- Sells's Law Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Vili! Dont forget, this new stuff was introduced BEFORE bugs were solved. Caused only troubles, needs to spend more energy on solving problems that would not have been. I work as a QA guy and as much as I can tell the fact that something was done instead of fixing a bug, doesn't mean the guys aren't working on the 'real' thing. I rather assume that someone was thinking hard about how to fix a bug and needed some distraction or had some spare time after work and thought that's a nice idea, let's do that. Guess it took around 10 minutes to implement the stuff, far more time was spent from us to complain or praise about this 'feature'. On the other side, I get complains because I write a bug report for a minor glitch that I saw on the way to a bigger problem. People always thinking that I invested my precious time to find these. Could someone please mark it as a dead horse? -- Regards, Raymund -- Grüße, Raymund Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Amen. Can the moderator please kill this thread ? Enough! Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, The Desk Consulting Group Inc., Oakville, Ontario, Canada. e-mail: je...@thedesk.ca Web: http://www.thedesk.ca Phone: 905-825-9938 or 1-877-763-7776 -Original Message- From: Raymund Tump raymund.t...@gmx.de Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:28:36 To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: Number of attachments Hi Vili! Dont forget, this new stuff was introduced BEFORE bugs were solved. Caused only troubles, needs to spend more energy on solving problems that would not have been. I work as a QA guy and as much as I can tell the fact that something was done instead of fixing a bug, doesn't mean the guys aren't working on the 'real' thing. I rather assume that someone was thinking hard about how to fix a bug and needed some distraction or had some spare time after work and thought that's a nice idea, let's do that. Guess it took around 10 minutes to implement the stuff, far more time was spent from us to complain or praise about this 'feature'. On the other side, I get complains because I write a bug report for a minor glitch that I saw on the way to a bigger problem. People always thinking that I invested my precious time to find these. Could someone please mark it as a dead horse? -- Regards, Raymund -- Grüße, Raymund Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello Martin, Friday, April 10, 2009, 10:47:00 AM, you wrote: Oh yes I see, you are using Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 ;-) And the shots continue. Can the moderator please put an end to this. Maybe the folks with the concerns can take it to another space. I got the point. The point has been made Can we move on. Moderator, can you please end this! Jerry -- Ethan J Mings Oakville, Ontario Canada qualityoff...@consultant.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Freitag, 10. April 2009 at 11:00, Volker Ahrendt wrote: Wolfgang S. is the keyword here. You know, Jens? ;-) --- The Bat! --- Die Nachricht mit der ID 1541882940.20080209093...@thebat.net konnte nicht gefunden werden. Wollen Sie in anderen Ordnern suchen? --- Ja Nein --- Nein, die fehlt mir wohl. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Freitag, 10. April 2009 at 14:11, Kertész Vilmos wrote: I always feel that we should add REAL users to the betalist to refresh the blood. I am real and i talk for my Customers as well. I meet with them on a daily basis, Hopefully i will not meet all my Customers daily :-) But i see some of them over the week and i get Mails and Calls. so I try to suggest what they say... Their message: no more features, fix the errors. Funny, thats what i hear here on the List and from my Customers... -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Freitag, 10. April 2009 at 15:43, Mark Partous wrote: On the contrary. Most prefer nice looking inferior software. Thats only a suggestion, i checked it out and the Users selected the Software which fits best their needs and is working fast and save. They dropped fancy software and took the fast and working one! Really -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Freitag, 10. April 2009 at 18:28, Raymund Tump wrote: Could someone please mark it as a dead horse? +1 -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Jens Franik wrote on 11/04/2009 at 06:46:34 +1100 subject Number of attachments : Freitag, 10. April 2009 at 11:00, Volker Ahrendt wrote: Wolfgang S. is the keyword here. You know, Jens? ;-) --- The Bat! --- Die Nachricht mit der ID 1541882940.20080209093...@thebat.net konnte nicht gefunden werden. Wollen Sie in anderen Ordnern suchen? --- Ja Nein --- Nein, die fehlt mir wohl. See attachment -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email hendrikmail2...@yahoo.de TheBat! 4.1.11.12 - Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.7.0 Extended Macro Plugin 1.1.91.0 - Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3---BeginMessage--- Hello Thomas, PO I agree with numbers being right-aligned. TF Seconded. Before we make an official option, you can set the RightAlignFolderCounters value of the HKCU\Software\RIT\The Bat! Registry key to 1 :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html ---End Message--- Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Number of attachments
Thanks for the new updates. I am not very happy with the icon of number of attachents. If there are one, two or three - then it's ok. But today I got a message with 10 attachments - and see the picture... Well I could enlarge the column size - but it's not the solution. -- Best regards, Martin mailto:dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2attachment: attachment.png Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
[Reply to: »Martin Schoch« · 2009-04-09 · 11:38 h (CET)] Moin, Martin! But today I got a message with 10 attachments - and see the picture... Ummm … very nice! Well I could enlarge the column size - but it's not the solution. I would suggest … - … to make this feature optional (as already said). - … and/or remove the icon in the background of the number. IMO that icon is needless, because the number itself is an indicator for an attachment. Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using /\^o^/\! 4.1.11.12 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Number of attachments
Hello Volker, Thursday, April 09, 2009, 13:06:57, you wrote: - … and/or remove the icon in the background of the number. IMO that icon is needless, because the number itself is an indicator for an attachment. That's what I wanted to say. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
[Reply to: »Martin Schoch« · 2009-04-09 · 13:00 h (CET)] Moin, Martin! Yes - only digits (right-justified) and no graphic would be a good solution. Yep! :-) BTW. The numbers in the columns Total Messages and Unread Messages should be right-justified and not left-justified - in my opinion. Old problem, but here is the solution: - Close The Bat! - Run regedit - Choose HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RightAlignFolderCounters - Set value to 1 - Close regedit - Restart The Bat! and you are done. ;-) HTH Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using /\^o^/\! 4.1.11.12 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hi Volker On Thursday, April 9, 2009 1:19:54 PM you wrote: Old problem, but here is the solution: - Close The Bat! - Run regedit - Choose HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RightAlignFolderCounters - Set value to 1 - Close regedit - Restart The Bat! and you are done. ;-) Thanks for the hint ... but here nothing changes - total and unread messages columns are still left-justified - in the message list pane - in the folder list pane they are right-justified. -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2attachment: columns.png Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
[Reply to: »Martin Schoch« · 2009-04-09 · 13:35 h (CET)]
Moin, Martin!
Thanks for the hint ... but here nothing changes - total and unread
messages columns are still left-justified - in the message list pane
- in the folder list pane they are right-justified.
Oh, now I see. The columns Unread and Total are always hidden
here, so was not aware of them. I thought you talked about the folder
list pane. – Maybe the RITguys can change this, too.
Cheers!
VA
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Re: Number of attachments
Hello Martin, Thursday, April 09, 2009, 12:38:19, you wrote: But today I got a message with 10 attachments - and see the picture... Well I could enlarge the column size - but it's not the solution. I don't think that it is a problem. I think that it is OK. We can only leave the digits in this column, no grahpics and it will still be OK. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
Hello Maxim I don't think that it is a problem. I think that it is OK. We can only leave the digits in this column, no grahpics and it will still be OK. Yes - only digits (right-justified) and no graphic would be a good solution. BTW. The numbers in the columns Total Messages and Unread Messages should be right-justified and not left-justified - in my opinion. Thanks again. -- Best regards, Martin mailto:dagob...@yahoo.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Donnerstag, 9. April 2009 at 12:06, Volker Ahrendt wrote: - … and/or remove the icon in the background of the number. IMO that icon is needless, because the number itself is an indicator for an attachment. Or show the Icon for ONE Attachment and Numbers if they are more than one. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Donnerstag, 9. April 2009 at 13:19, Volker Ahrendt wrote: - Choose HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RightAlignFolderCounters - Set value to 1 Put it in the Wiki :-) You are a hacker ;-) -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.12 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.1 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 11.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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- … and/or remove the icon in the background of the number. IMO that icon is needless, because the number itself is an indicator for an attachment. Or show the Icon for ONE Attachment and Numbers if they are more than one. I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs). I did not quite follow the thread, but I dont see why showing the number of attach is useful. Next will be number of words, statistics on of letters used? Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Vili, on Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:02:57 -0400GMT (09.04.2009, 21:02 +0200GMT here), you wrote: [attachment icon with numbers] V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.1.11.12 :beta: on WinXP, SP3, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several news groups via MyGate OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 1024 MB RAM Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Vili, on Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:02:57 -0400GMT (09.04.2009, 21:02 +0200GMT here), you wrote: [attachment icon with numbers] V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. -- Rick Dreams come true on this side of the Rainbow too! v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Vili On Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:02:57 PM you wrote: I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs). I did not quite follow the thread, but I dont see why showing the number of attach is useful. Next will be number of words, statistics on of letters used? Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... Hmm - there is *always* and *still* an other bug to fix... -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs). I did not quite follow the thread, but I dont see why showing the number of attach is useful. Next will be number of words, statistics on of letters used? Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... Hmm - there is *always* and *still* an other bug to fix... Then it's time to start fixing them... Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Vili, I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs). I did not quite follow the thread, but I dont see why showing the number of attach is useful. It surely is useful, I does help to keep this list alive with a lot of discussions. You know, if the feature should be optional, or if the number should be left or right aligned, of if the column width should be wider to allow both the number and the icon. Really interesting discussions. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 See some of my photos at http://www.Rancho-K.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:10:00 PM, Vili wrote: What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? I've never gotten more attachments than I could count, usually without having to take off even one shoe. This feature seems so useless and unnecessary, I don't know why someone thought of it. Reminds me of a kid who doesn't want to go to bed, so keeps thinking of excuses. Except avoidance is not of bed but of tackling the real problems. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.11.12 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 3) Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:10:00 PM, Vili wrote: What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? I've never gotten more attachments than I could count, usually without having to take off even one shoe. This feature seems so useless and unnecessary, I don't know why someone thought of it. Reminds me of a kid who doesn't want to go to bed, so keeps thinking of excuses. Except avoidance is not of bed but of tackling the real problems. I get emails with graphics attached and it is nice to be able to look down the list and see the number. As I said, I wouldn't have kicked and stamped my feet for such a feature but I am finding it handy. It also counts the attachments in attached emails. -- Rick The fragrance always stays in the hand that gives the rose. - Hada Bejar v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Rick, It also counts the attachments in attached emails. Wooow! That's great, ain't it! ;-)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 See some of my photos at http://www.Rancho-K.com Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Rick, It also counts the attachments in attached emails. Wooow! That's great, ain't it! ;-)) I am truly HAPPY that you are so enthused!!! :) -- Rick Rogues are preferable to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest. - Alexandre Dumas v4.1.11.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Vili On Thursday, April 9, 2009 10:10:00 PM you wrote: V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? Who decides if a feature is useful or not? In my opinion: Exactly this list is a place to *discuss* it - it's not you who *decide* it - I think... Anyway: If Ritlabs implements a feature it should be implemented in a good way - and this contains also a cosmetic view. -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 4.1.11.12 Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Number of Attachments (was: 4.1.11.9)
[Reply to: »MAU« · 2009-04-05 · 14:20 h (CET)] Moin, MAU! That's why I say the feature should be *optional*, so those who like it and find it useful can use it and those who don't, like me, can block it. +1 Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using /\^o^/\! 4.1.11.9 (MMB) [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.1.11.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
