Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
Do you have the identical fonts on those two machines? Compare a search through all directories, not just the Windows\Fonts directory. I copied version 5 into xp font file and fixed the problem. the problem is with the font So, Dwight sent me that font. It is different from mine. Now that I removed the old and installed the new, I dont even have the squares. I have an empty HTML mail body, also the Control Panel, Fonts, Estrenga... does not show any fonts... See attach. Strange.. -- Viliattachment: Clipboard01.jpg Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Vili, Monday, April 7, 2008, 7:19:18 PM, you wrote: V Could you send me that font in private? And once you get it, can you... et cetera? :-) V Can I what? Send it to me, I meant. But it isn't necessary anymore because I have a copy (perhaps not the same) It won't solve the problem anyway. There are no letters in that font. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20.2 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 7:27:1) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V Could you send me that font in private? And once you get it, can you... et cetera? :-) V Can I what? Send it to me, I meant. But it isn't necessary anymore because I have a copy (perhaps not the same) It won't solve the problem anyway. There are no letters in that font. Ok, so summarizing: my original Estre.ttf is 79 744 bytes. Results in squares. The one that Dwight sent me and works at him is 110 436 bytes, and does not result in any font at me, blank HTML part of the specific mail, no fonts in preview... Strange :) -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Vili, Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 3:48:15 PM, you wrote: V Ok, so summarizing: my original Estre.ttf is 79 744 bytes. Results in V squares. The one that Dwight sent me and works at him is 110 436 V bytes, and does not result in any font at me, blank HTML part of the V specific mail, no fonts in preview... V Strange :) Actually, I think (in this case) we (that don't see letters, only boxes and digits) are the only ones where things work as they are supposed to work. If someone is using a font that does not contain letters, (but he/she does not see it because the program he is writing in (or a setup in his machine) substitutes the empty spaces in the font with the letters that would be in that position if there were,) he is the one that is causing the problem. Not TB!, nor we. ,--/ \ | Re: The font Estrangelo Edessa doesnt work (not on any of my PCs!) | | | | Very Bizarre: | | According to the information for the Estrangelo Edessa font (thanks to | http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/font...ws.html#syriac) | | Estrangelo Edessa – 264 glyphs in version 1.00 Produced by the Syriac | Institute of Beth Mardutho Ranges: Basic Latin (numerals and punctuation); | Latin-1 Supplement (few); Combining Diacritical Marks; Arabic (few); Syriac; | General Punctuation OpenType layout tables: Syriac Family: Sans-serif | (Latin); Cursive (Syriac) Styles: Regular Availability: Supplied with | Microsoft Windows XP, and included in free download from Beth Mardutho: | Meltho Fonts | | 264 glyphs - The character map only shows 185 - Not sure where the other 79 | are . | | As Sledger said, There are no letters - That's probably why Xara shows blanks | when letters are typed. The glyphs paste in fine as rich text when cut and | pasted from the Windows Character Map. Programs that show text - Like Word | must be substituting another typeface for the letters. | | To return to Ship, I seriously doubt that what he is seeing on the screen if | he is using letters is correct, and if he needs the glyphs, then he can cut | and paste. | `-8--- -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20.2 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 8:16:2) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V Ok, so summarizing: my original Estre.ttf is 79 744 bytes. Results in V squares. The one that Dwight sent me and works at him is 110 436 V bytes, and does not result in any font at me, blank HTML part of the V specific mail, no fonts in preview... V Strange :) Actually, I think (in this case) we (that don't see letters, only boxes and digits) are the only ones where things work as they are supposed to work. If someone is using a font that does not contain letters, (but he/she does not see it because the program he is writing in (or a setup in his machine) substitutes the empty spaces in the font with the letters that would be in that position if there were,) he is the one that is causing the problem. Not TB!, nor we. I think, what happens is that if you have the Asian letters installed, it shows them... (?) I dont have them on this PC. | 264 glyphs - The character map only shows 185 - Not sure where the other 79 | are . | | As Sledger said, There are no letters - That's probably why Xara shows blanks | when letters are typed. The glyphs paste in fine as rich text when cut and | pasted from the Windows Character Map. Programs that show text - Like Word | must be substituting another typeface for the letters. | | To return to Ship, I seriously doubt that what he is seeing on the screen if | he is using letters is correct, and if he needs the glyphs, then he can cut | and paste. `-8--- -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 8:45:12 AM, Mark Partous wrote: It won't solve the problem anyway. There are no letters in that font. there is a whole alphabet in 5.0 -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 9:42:21 AM, Mark Partous wrote: If someone is using a font that does not contain letters it does contain letters. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2)attachment: estrangelo.png Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
If someone is using a font that does not contain letters it does contain letters. There is a slight problem here: if I go to http://www.fonttrader.com/detailed~name~Estrangelo_Edessa~font~35.htm and check out this font, specifically the numbers (as the letters show squares at me) they are different from the one you attached. Check e.g. 1 or 4. They have... h feet? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Dwight, Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 8:14:45 PM, you wrote: DAC it does contain letters. You're using an ersatz! :-) See attached capture of the TTF. Could you please send me your open type? Oh well, a copy will do! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20.2 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 13:50:8) on Uno AMD Duron attachment: Magical Snap - 2008.04.08 21.56 - 001.png Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 3:12:22 PM, Mark Partous wrote: You're using an ersatz! :-) your version is even older than the one I had on xp when it wasn't working 0.79 v 1.0. current is 5.0 -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Dwight, On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:45:10 -0500 GMT (07/04/2008, 10:45 +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: DC Jernej Simončič renders correctly on vista, but looks like the DC attached on my XP. I don't know if that is related or not, but it DC seems similar enough to consider. I believe this is unrelated, as it has to do with the font you have set for the headers. I would point you to the right direction, but the settings for the fonts for each part of TB! are spead all over the interface, there is no central menu item. I cannot find any more where I set the font for the headers, and the menu navigator doesn't help either. All I can say is that his name renders correctly over here, under XP. -- Cheers, Thomas. Hier trifft man eine Menge Bekannter, die man sein genzes Leben noch nicht gesehen hat. * http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20.2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
Hi Dwight, On Sunday, April 06, 2008 at 10:45:10 PM you wrote: DC On Sunday, April 6, 2008, 9:12:44 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: :-) I think this rules out the OS as a parameter for the bug showing or not. DC I haven't noticed any report that the font is not rendered in vista, DC but lots that it is not rendered in xp. Actually, I think that two or DC three people using xp have reported that it works for them. At least DC one of those, you, is using a version of windows which I believe is DC specifically oriented to not western alphabets. Here, there is just the usual version of Windows. DC I know that besides DC this problem with the particular font being discussed, I get a fair DC amount of spam which renders in vista as what looks to my untrained DC eye as Chinese (as opposed to Japanese at least) and which is rendered DC in XP with the little boxes. Do you have the identical fonts on those two machines? Compare a search through all directories, not just the Windows\Fonts directory. DC Jernej Simončič renders correctly on vista, but looks like the DC attached on my XP. I don't know if that is related or not, but it DC seems similar enough to consider. Jernej's surname does render here beautifully in the preview pane. However, the quoted material in my reply shows only boxes. I do have the Open Type version of Estrangelo Edessa on my system, but it is not installed. I don't understand how EEdessa could be related to the problem as it is not an alphabetic font. It only consists of numbers and some numerically-related symbols, so boxes would be shown where no values were designed. Check out the character map in charmap.exe or download The Font Thing where you can see exactly the values contained in the particular font. The Font Thing is a great little program which is still offered by the author and is free of charge. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~scef/tft.html I've just changed the font for quoted material in TB! to Times New Roman (from Trebuchet) and Jernej's name is now displayed properly. I guess the answer to the problem should be that a complete font, such as Arial or Times New Roman, should be used whenever international characters are likely to be encountered. -- Regards, Maggie Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms. -Aristotle Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.20 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Monday, April 7, 2008, 9:09:27 AM, Maggie Meister wrote: Do you have the identical fonts on those two machines? Compare a search through all directories, not just the Windows\Fonts directory. I copied version 5 into xp font file and fixed the problem. the problem is with the font -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
Do you have the identical fonts on those two machines? Compare a search through all directories, not just the Windows\Fonts directory. I copied version 5 into xp font file and fixed the problem. the problem is with the font Could you send me that font in private? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Vili, Monday, April 7, 2008, 6:14:59 PM, you wrote: V Could you send me that font in private? And once you get it, can you... et cetera? :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20.2 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 10:51:31) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V Could you send me that font in private? And once you get it, can you... et cetera? :-) Can I what? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:19:18 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: V Could you send me that font in private? And once you get it, can you... et cetera? :-) Can I what? Save the world from poverty, for example. Can you? -- Cheers, Thomas. Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 at 10:30:26 -0400, Vili wrote: I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of the mail... I see the same problem. If I export the file to unix mailbox, edit the HTML to replace all references to Estrangelo Edessa with Arial, it displays fine. It seems to be a problem with the missing font. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.20 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Peter, On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:03 +0200 GMT (06/04/2008, 15:46 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: TF This is not the first time I'm the only who cannot confirm a bug that TF everybody else sees. ;-) PH msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, so I'm not the only one! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. The real question for 1988 is whether we're going to go forward to tomorrow or past to the--to the back! --V.P. Dan Quayle. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Thomas, TF This is not the first time I'm the only who cannot confirm a bug that TF everybody else sees. ;-) PH msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, so I'm not the only one! ;-) I cannot find that message, but there was two cases: a. WinXP DID show the HTML b. Win2k DID NOT show the HTML -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Friday, April 4, 2008, 8:47:40 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Courier New. But that is irrelvant, as it was an HTML message. I just checked, and I do have Estrangelo Edessa on my computer. I believe it is a matter of whether the font is available. no. i have it and it works in open office, but if I copy the text from open office and paste it in an html message it turns to boxes. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Dwight, On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:27:44 -0500 GMT (06/04/2008, 23:27 +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: Courier New. But that is irrelvant, as it was an HTML message. I just checked, and I do have Estrangelo Edessa on my computer. I believe it is a matter of whether the font is available. DC no. i have it and it works in open office, but if I copy the text from DC open office and paste it in an html message it turns to boxes. I see you are using Vista. That may be the reason for the difference. -- Cheers, Thomas. Love will find you, even if you are trying to hide from it. I've been trying to hide from it since I was five, but the girls keep finding me. (Bobby, 8) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Thomas, Sunday, April 6, 2008, 6:45:19 PM, you wrote: TF I see you are using Vista. That may be the reason for the difference. The Vista I am currently using looks very much like Windows 2000 and acts like Dwight's (replace OO by Microsoft Office 2003 - since going back to a True Image dating from 2006, I did not install OO yet). -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20.1 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 12:22:48) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Sunday, April 6, 2008, 11:45:19 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: DC no. i have it and it works in open office, but if I copy the text DC from open office and paste it in an html message it turns to DC boxes. I see you are using Vista. That may be the reason for the difference. it works fine in vista, it is in xp where it doesn't work -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Dwight, On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:16:49 -0500 GMT (07/04/2008, 03:16 +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: DC no. i have it and it works in open office, but if I copy the text DC from open office and paste it in an html message it turns to DC boxes. I see you are using Vista. That may be the reason for the difference. DC it works fine in vista, it is in xp where it doesn't work :-) I think this rules out the OS as a parameter for the bug showing or not. -- Cheers, Thomas. A non-smoking section in a restaurant is like a non-peeing section in a pool. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
On Sunday, April 6, 2008, 9:12:44 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: :-) I think this rules out the OS as a parameter for the bug showing or not. I haven't noticed any report that the font is not rendered in vista, but lots that it is not rendered in xp. Actually, I think that two or three people using xp have reported that it works for them. At least one of those, you, is using a version of windows which I believe is specifically oriented to not western alphabets. I know that besides this problem with the particular font being discussed, I get a fair amount of spam which renders in vista as what looks to my untrained eye as Chinese (as opposed to Japanese at least) and which is rendered in XP with the little boxes. Jernej Simončič renders correctly on vista, but looks like the attached on my XP. I don't know if that is related or not, but it seems similar enough to consider. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20 on Windows Vista version 6,0 ()attachment: font choice 2.png Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Dear Vili, -- Donnerstag, 3. April 2008, 22:57:26: No. But Thomas is the only one who can see it under WinXP. And Mark cannot see in from Win2k... Probably with Thai Char Set. @Thomas: what is your standard char set? -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Eddie, On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:50:29 +0200 GMT (04/04/2008, 14:50 +0700 GMT), Eddie Castelli wrote: EC Dear Vili, No. But Thomas is the only one who can see it under WinXP. And Mark cannot see in from Win2k... I seem to have a bug-correcting system. This is not the first time I'm the only who cannot confirm a bug that everybody else sees. ;-) EC Probably with Thai Char Set. @Thomas: what is your standard char set? Courier New. But that is irrelvant, as it was an HTML message. I just checked, and I do have Estrangelo Edessa on my computer. I believe it is a matter of whether the font is available. -- Cheers, Thomas. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 3. Diverts attention from the fact that you also came to work drunk. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Vili, On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:55:18 -0400 GMT (04/04/2008, 03:55 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: That's what I thought, but it was reported today that it worked under XP... I'm seeing on vista, NOT on xp sp2 V I know, but Thomas said that he can see on XP. I have the font. I think that is crucial for HTML mails that specify a font. -- Cheers, Thomas. SYMPTOM: Floor blurred. FAULT: You are looking through bottom of empty glass. ACTION: Get someone to buy you another beer. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
No. But Thomas is the only one who can see it under WinXP. And Mark cannot see in from Win2k... I seem to have a bug-correcting system. This is not the first time I'm the only who cannot confirm a bug that everybody else sees. ;-) EC Probably with Thai Char Set. @Thomas: what is your standard char set? Courier New. But that is irrelvant, as it was an HTML message. I just checked, and I do have Estrangelo Edessa on my computer. I believe it is a matter of whether the font is available. Thomas: if you go to Control Panel, Fonts, and you select the estre.ttf, do you see the sample text (Quick brown fox etc) ok? I dont. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Vili, On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:12:17 -0400 GMT (04/04/2008, 21:12 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: Courier New. But that is irrelvant, as it was an HTML message. I just checked, and I do have Estrangelo Edessa on my computer. I believe it is a matter of whether the font is available. V Thomas: if you go to Control Panel, Fonts, and you select the V estre.ttf, do you see the sample text (Quick brown fox etc) ok? I V dont. Yes, I do. It's actually Jackdaws loves my big sphinx of quartz for some reason. Doesn't seem to cover all letters. -- Cheers, Thomas. My old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, You're next! They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
Courier New. But that is irrelvant, as it was an HTML message. I just checked, and I do have Estrangelo Edessa on my computer. I believe it is a matter of whether the font is available. V Thomas: if you go to Control Panel, Fonts, and you select the V estre.ttf, do you see the sample text (Quick brown fox etc) ok? I V dont. Yes, I do. It's actually Jackdaws loves my big sphinx of quartz for some reason. Doesn't seem to cover all letters. Hmm... Maybe this is the reason. You have something on your system that makes it different. Please send me your C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\estre.ttf file in a private message. Thanks! -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V Thomas: if you go to Control Panel, Fonts, and you select the V estre.ttf, do you see the sample text (Quick brown fox etc) ok? I V dont. Yes, I do. It's actually Jackdaws loves my big sphinx of quartz for some reason. Doesn't seem to cover all letters. What is your regional settings in Windows? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Vili, On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:42:31 -0400 GMT (04/04/2008, 21:42 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V Thomas: if you go to Control Panel, Fonts, and you select the V estre.ttf, do you see the sample text (Quick brown fox etc) ok? I V dont. Yes, I do. It's actually Jackdaws loves my big sphinx of quartz for some reason. Doesn't seem to cover all letters. V What is your regional settings in Windows? Regional Options: English/UK, Location Thailand. Languages/Supplemental: Both choices for Install ticked. -- Cheers, Thomas. It's best for employers that I not work with people. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Vili, On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:40:41 -0400 GMT (04/04/2008, 21:40 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: Yes, I do. It's actually Jackdaws loves my big sphinx of quartz for some reason. Doesn't seem to cover all letters. V Hmm... Maybe this is the reason. You have something on your system V that makes it different. Apparently... V Please send me your C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\estre.ttf file in a private V message. Thanks! You have mail! -- Cheers, Thomas. A student was asked to list the 10 Commandments in any order. His answer? 3, 6, 1, 8, 4, 5, 9, 2, 10, 7. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V What is your regional settings in Windows? Regional Options: English/UK, Location Thailand. Languages/Supplemental: Both choices for Install ticked. I am pretty sure, that this later two checkbox makes your Win unique on this list :) We dont have many testers with this setting, I think. I dont have the install CD with me here, so if someone with XP would install it and try it, that would be appreciated. estre.ttf: same as mine, thank you. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Vili, On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:11:40 -0400 GMT (04/04/2008, 22:11 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V What is your regional settings in Windows? Regional Options: English/UK, Location Thailand. Languages/Supplemental: Both choices for Install ticked. V I am pretty sure, that this later two checkbox makes your Win unique V on this list :) We dont have many testers with this setting, I think. Why then displays the message correctly in the browser? V I dont have the install CD with me here, so if someone with XP would V install it and try it, that would be appreciated. V estre.ttf: same as mine, thank you. You have the font, and still it doesn't display correctly in TB!. So my theory is squashed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatement. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V What is your regional settings in Windows? Regional Options: English/UK, Location Thailand. Languages/Supplemental: Both choices for Install ticked. V I am pretty sure, that this later two checkbox makes your Win unique V on this list :) We dont have many testers with this setting, I think. Why then displays the message correctly in the browser? Dunno... V I dont have the install CD with me here, so if someone with XP would V install it and try it, that would be appreciated. V estre.ttf: same as mine, thank you. You have the font, and still it doesn't display correctly in TB!. So my theory is squashed. :) The solution: I visit that lady to teach her emailing etiquette :) -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Vili, On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:32:06 -0400 GMT (04/04/2008, 22:32 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V :) The solution: I visit that lady to teach her emailing etiquette :) LOL! Good luck changing her from Estranged Odessa to something reasonable! -- Cheers, Thomas. Man: Where have you been all my life? Woman: Hiding from you. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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V :) The solution: I visit that lady to teach her emailing etiquette :) LOL! Good luck changing her from Estranged Odessa to something reasonable! When I showed them The Bat! once: mouths wide open. Wow, are there something out there that is not a.) Outlook, b.) fast to search, mark, filter, select sender, templates!, smart bat, etc. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Title: Re: Problem displaying a mail On Friday, April 4, 2008, 9:12:17 AM, Vili wrote: Thomas: if you go to Control Panel, Fonts, and you select the estre.ttf, do you see the sample text (Quick brown fox etc) ok? I dont. I just was able to type text in open office in estrangelo edessa, but if I copy and paste here I get The quick red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog. squares. I'll be interested to see how this shows up on my vista box. Attached shows when I tried to use estrangelo edessa in this html window. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries athttp://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20.1 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) attachment: font choice.png Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Friday, April 4, 2008, 1:00:42 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: I just was able to type text in open office in estrangelo edessa, but if I copy and paste here I get The quick red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog. squares. I'll be interested to see how this shows up on my vista box. the squares turned into text on vista. so it is a bat thing. Most of the fonts show a 'tt' icon, if they have a ttf extension, but this one and some others show '0'. I haven't tested to see if bat chokes on the other 'o' ones or not. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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I just was able to type text in open office in estrangelo edessa, but if I copy and paste here I get The quick red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog. squares. I'll be interested to see how this shows up on my vista box. the squares turned into text on vista. so it is a bat thing. Most of the fonts show a 'tt' icon, if they have a ttf extension, but this one and some others show '0'. I haven't tested to see if bat chokes on the other 'o' ones or not. T is Trutype. O is OpenFont... Hmm, maybe you found the cause? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Title: Re: Problem displaying a mail On Friday, April 4, 2008, 1:44:45 PM, Vili wrote: T is Trutype. O is OpenFont... Hmm, maybe you found the cause? this hideous thing is also OpenFont, and it works. (bauhaus) Candera is open and works Latha doesn't work. translation latha doesn't work It too is an open font. it worked in open office This works in open office arial is openfont and it is working. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries athttp://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20.1 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Dwight, Friday, April 4, 2008, 8:12:14 PM, you wrote: DC so it is a bat thing. I'm not sure about that. Estrangelo Edessa is shown (as intended?) in Office documents, browsers TB PTV. Squares are shown in TB HTML Viewer but also in X-Fonter (http://www.blacksunsoftware.com/xfonter.html). See attached png's. In Ascii Mode everything is shown as squares, in Unicode Mode digits show up. This info also is shown in X-fonter: ---8-8-- Font Names Full Font Name :Estrangelo Edessa Font Family Name : Estrangelo Edessa Font SubFamily Name : Regular Font Unique Name : Estrangelo Edessa PostScript Font Name : Estrangelo Edessa Font Family : Script Font Style :Regular Status This font is installed. This font is loaded. Font File(s) Path : f:\winnt\fonts\ESTRE.TTF Date : 30/10/2000 11:52:42 Size : 66,2 kb Font Characteristics Width Class : Medium (normal) Weight Class : Normal (Regular) Type This is a TrueType Font. Embedding Installable Embedding Supported Code Pages Default Codepage Supported Unicode Pages - Combining Diacritical Marks ( bit 6 ) - Arabic ( bit 13 ) - Reserved ( bit 14 ) - Syriac ( bit 71 ) - General Punctuation ( bit 31 ) Supported tables GDEF, GPOS, GSUB, LTSH, OS/2, VDMX, cmap, cvt , fpgm, gasp, glyf, hdmx, head, hhea, hmtx, loca, maxp, name, post, prep, prep, prep, prep, prep Version Version 0.9 Copyright Copyright (c) Syriac Computing Institute. For free distribution. Created by Paul Nelson and George Kiraz, 2000. All rights reserved. ---8-8-- Hope it helps. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20.1 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 14:44:0) on Uno AMD Duron attachment: Estrang2.pngattachment: Estrang.png Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Dear Vili, -- Mittwoch, 2. April 2008, 16:30:26: I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of the mail... On my side all is show properly. When opening your msg I see it with the 'Latin 9 (ISO)' Character Set. When opening your attachment I see no reference to any of the Character Set displayed in the menu. I can't find the Estrangelo Edessa on my system. For my environment info see below. Hope this helps. -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of the mail... On my side all is show properly. When opening your msg I see it with the 'Latin 9 (ISO)' Character Set. When opening your attachment I see no reference to any of the Character Set displayed in the menu. I can't find the Estrangelo Edessa on my system. For my environment info see below. Hope this helps. I think it helped. I went thru all answers, and: Win2k and Vista: ok WinXP: not ok Are you agree with this conclusion? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello all, Thursday, April 3, 2008, Vili wrote: WinXP: not ok confirm under WinXP, only squares are displayed -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.20.1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:50:49 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win2k and Vista: ok WinXP: not ok Are you agree with this conclusion? I don't. I had no problems under WinXP seeing the message correctly in HTML and plain. -- Cheers, Thomas. Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Vili, Thursday, April 3, 2008, 2:50:49 PM, you wrote: V I think it helped. I went thru all answers, and: V Win2k and Vista: ok V WinXP: not ok V Are you agree with this conclusion? Sorry to spoil the fun, but as you can see, this PC runs on Win2k and I can't see the text in html... I can see the (html)text in Maxthon... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20.1 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 5:41:50) on Uno AMD Duron attachment: Magical Snap - 2008.04.02 19.31 - 80.jpg Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Win2k and Vista: ok WinXP: not ok Are you agree with this conclusion? I don't. I had no problems under WinXP seeing the message correctly in HTML and plain. Then I give up :) -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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V I think it helped. I went thru all answers, and: V Win2k and Vista: ok V WinXP: not ok V Are you agree with this conclusion? Sorry to spoil the fun, but as you can see, this PC runs on Win2k and I can't see the text in html... You dont spoil the fun. I can see the (html)text in Maxthon... Me too, in IE. So, it must be TB related. I just cant figure out what... Maybe the OTFE mode? So, I dont have OTFE and I dont see it. Others? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Dear Vili, -- Donnerstag, 3. April 2008, 14:50:49: Win2k and Vista: ok WinXP: not ok Are you agree with this conclusion? Probably you gave the answer yourself when mentioning that you tried it on various systems. Where there different OS? If Yes, you should be close to it. I'm glade to hear you found the source. -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Vili, Thursday, April 3, 2008, 5:28:18 PM, you wrote: Sorry to spoil the fun, but as you can see, this PC runs on Win2k and I can't see the text in html... V You dont spoil the fun. I can see the (html)text in Maxthon... V Me too, in IE. So, it must be TB related. I just cant figure out V what... V Maybe the OTFE mode? V So, I dont have OTFE and I dont see it. Others? I don't use OFTE, but I suppose that has little to do with the problem. If, in View, I choose character set Chinese, Thai or Korean, I can see the text as intended. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20.1 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 8:56:18) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hi Vili, on Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:30:26 -0400GMT (02.04.2008, 16:30 +0200GMT here), you wrote: V I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported V and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read V the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of V the mail... To me it looks like it is OS related. Here's my findings: I cannot view it with TB! on WinXP. I can view it with TB! on Win2k. I can view it with Voyager on Win2k. I cannot view it with Voyager on WinXP. I cannot view it with Thunderbird on Linux (it only shows a completely empty page when opening the MSG file...) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v4.0.18.4 on a 128MB stick plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several newsgroups via MyGate Current OS: Windows XP,v.5.1,Build 2600 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Thomas, on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:07:49 +0700GMT (03.04.2008, 15:07 +0200GMT here), you wrote: TF On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:50:49 -0400 TF Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win2k and Vista: ok WinXP: not ok Are you agree with this conclusion? TF I don't. I had no problems under WinXP seeing the message correctly in TF HTML and plain. Maybe it has something to do with char sets beside the OS? Just an idea... -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v4.0.18.4 on a 128MB stick plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several newsgroups via MyGate Current OS: Windows XP,v.5.1,Build 2600 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Peter, Thursday, April 3, 2008, 6:40:50 PM, you wrote: PM I can view it with TB! on Win2k. As already said, I don't see it on Win2k, unless I use character sets Chinese, Thai or Korean. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20.1 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 9:39:6) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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V I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported V and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read V the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of V the mail... To me it looks like it is OS related. Here's my findings: I cannot view it with TB! on WinXP. I can view it with TB! on Win2k. I can view it with Voyager on Win2k. I cannot view it with Voyager on WinXP. I cannot view it with Thunderbird on Linux (it only shows a completely empty page when opening the MSG file...) That's what I thought, but it was reported today that it worked under XP... -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Vili, on Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:07:09 -0400GMT (03.04.2008, 19:07 +0200GMT here), you wrote: To me it looks like it is OS related. Here's my findings: V That's what I thought, but it was reported today that it worked under V XP... It may additionally have to do with the available character sets. BTW, why are all the blank lines weeded out in your quotes? It surely saves space, but it isn't so good to read... hmm -- Cheers Peter The Bat! Voyager v4.0.18.4 on a 128MB stick plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several newsgroups via MyGate Current OS: Windows XP,v.5.1,Build 2600 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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To me it looks like it is OS related. Here's my findings: V That's what I thought, but it was reported today that it worked under V XP... It may additionally have to do with the available character sets. BTW, why are all the blank lines weeded out in your quotes? It surely saves space, but it isn't so good to read... hmm I do that manually... Dont know. Save space? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Vili, Thursday, April 3, 2008, 7:07:09 PM, you wrote: That's what I thought, but it was reported today that it worked under XP... It does work here, too, with character set Windows default which uses Times New Roman. Same with Thunderbird. -- HTH, Uwe Using The Bat! v4.0.20.1 (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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That's what I thought, but it was reported today that it worked under XP... It does work here, too, with character set Windows default which uses Times New Roman. Same with Thunderbird. I give up :) -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Thursday, April 3, 2008, 12:07:09 PM, Vili wrote: That's what I thought, but it was reported today that it worked under XP... I'm seeing on vista, NOT on xp sp2 -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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I give up :)
Do you have MSOffice installed?
As I saved message.html and opened it with notepad - there is a lot of
Microsoft crap 'inside' and different specific fonts:
@font-face
{font-family:Estrangelo Edessa;
panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
--
Marek
N 51°12,635' E022°32,653'
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I give up :)
Do you have MSOffice installed?
Yes.
As I saved message.html and opened it with notepad - there is a lot of
Microsoft crap 'inside' and different specific fonts:
@font-face
{font-family:Estrangelo Edessa;
panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
I know. The mail was created NOT by me. Come on, I use TB :)
--
Vili
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That's what I thought, but it was reported today that it worked under XP... I'm seeing on vista, NOT on xp sp2 I know, but Thomas said that he can see on XP. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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I give up :) it's font related isn't it? No. But Thomas is the only one who can see it under WinXP. And Mark cannot see in from Win2k... Dont worry guys, we can see 99.999% of the mails correctly :) -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Thursday, April 3, 2008, 2:43:02 PM, Vili wrote: I give up :) it's font related isn't it? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.20.1 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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4/3/2008 6:03 PM Hi Marek, On 4/3/2008 Marek Szymański wrote: MS As I saved message.html and opened it with notepad - there is a lot of MS Microsoft crap 'inside' and different specific fonts: Therein lies the problem. My life as a consultant has been greatly improved since I swore off M$ Office in 2000. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem displaying a mail
I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of the mail... -- Vili---BeginMessage--- All, Once again it's time to exchange xxx for employees and non-employees. The dosimeters are located in building 1. All xxx will be returned on April 23rd. Any xxx not exchanged by this date will have to be exchanged at the xxx office in building 1. Thanks Whoever ---End Message--- Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hallo Vili, On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:30:26 -0400GMT (2-4-2008, 16:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: V I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported V and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read V the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of V the mail... Can't confirm. Attached message can be read fine over here. Though there are a lot x characters. -- Groetjes, Roelof It is easier to admire hard work if you don't do it. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.20 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpBtRSwo64Fn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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V I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported V and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read V the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of V the mail... Can't confirm. Attached message can be read fine over here. Though there are a lot x characters. I exchanged a word with xxx. Hmm, I upgrade. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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V I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported V and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read V the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of V the mail... Can't confirm. Attached message can be read fine over here. Though there are a lot x characters. It must be a charset that I am missing... What is the charset that you use to display it correctly? Or you think the problem is that I am missing the Estrangelo Edessa font? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Vili, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, 4:30:26 PM, you wrote: V But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of V the mail... The only thing I can read is Thanks and some digits. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.20 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 7:30:59) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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V I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported V and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read V the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of V the mail... Can't confirm. Attached message can be read fine over here. Though there are a lot x characters. I found the Estrangelo Edessa font in my system, but it displays only empty squares, no letters :(( I found it on the net downloaded, that shows the same. I checked my coworker's PC, same. But when she uses Outlook, that displays the mail correctly... I dont get it. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Problem displaying a mail
4/2/2008 11:33 AM Hi Vili, On 4/2/2008 Vili wrote: V It must be a charset that I am missing... What is the charset that you V use to display it correctly? V Or you think the problem is that I am missing the Estrangelo Edessa V font? I can see it just fine. I do not have any character set selected nor do I have the Estrangelo Edessa font. It displays using Times New Roman. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Problem displaying a mail
4/2/2008 11:40 AM Hi Vili, On 4/2/2008 Vili wrote: V I found the Estrangelo Edessa font in my system, but it displays only V empty squares, no letters :(( I found it on the net downloaded, that V shows the same. I checked my coworker's PC, same. But when she uses V Outlook, that displays the mail correctly... I dont get it. Highly proprietary M$? - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Problem displaying a mail
V I found the Estrangelo Edessa font in my system, but it displays only V empty squares, no letters :(( I found it on the net downloaded, that V shows the same. I checked my coworker's PC, same. But when she uses V Outlook, that displays the mail correctly... I dont get it. Highly proprietary M$? It is an open font... -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported V and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read V the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of V the mail... Can't confirm. Attached message can be read fine over here. Though there are a lot x characters. Did you check it in HTML or in Plain text mode? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of V the mail... The only thing I can read is Thanks and some digits. Same here. I attached what I see on the HTML tab. So, in short, if I select the HTML tab at the bottom of the mail viewer, it is wrong. If I select the Plain text tab, I can see the text. Furthermore, if I open the message.HTML in IE, that shows it fine... So, TB cannot show the HTML part of this mail _at me_ correctly... I dont know why... -- Viliattachment: Clipboard01.jpg Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Problem displaying a mail
4/2/2008 11:57 AM Hi Vili, On 4/2/2008 Vili wrote: V It is an open font... See this: http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=31408 - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hallo Vili, On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:25:38 -0400GMT (2-4-2008, 17:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: V I found the Estrangelo Edessa font in my system, but it displays only V empty squares, no letters :(( I found it on the net downloaded, that V shows the same. I checked my coworker's PC, same. But when she uses V Outlook, that displays the mail correctly... I dont get it. I've got the Estrangelo Edessa font on my system, so i guess it's something that Vista installs per default. It says it's an Opentype font, whatever that may be. I've got no fancy charsets installed either. -- Groetjes, Roelof Women's clothes: Go to extremes, seldom to extremities. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.20.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpmulbzt4Qpd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Problem displaying a mail
V It is an open font... See this: http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=31408 When I open the HTML in Internet Explorer, that shows the font fine... So, it is a TB related problem. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Hallo Vili, On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:56:02 -0400GMT (2-4-2008, 17:56 +0200, where I live), you wrote: V Did you check it in HTML or in Plain text mode? Both -- Groetjes, Roelof Never lean forward to push an invisible object. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.20.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpqVXcPDp6Yj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V Did you check it in HTML or in Plain text mode? Both Hm. Then I give up. It used to happen always with the same sender's mails. She's using Word to create mails... -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
V Hm. Then I give up. It used to happen always with the same sender's V mails. She's using Word to create mails... I have no idea, why this message isn't displayed correctly at your side. Here, Win XP SP2, it looks as shown in the attachments. No clue... Thanks Peter! -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Vili, On 02-04-2008 17:55, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Same here. I attached what I see on the HTML tab. Me too. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 4.0.14 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 12 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
On 02-04-2008 17:55, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Same here. I attached what I see on the HTML tab. Me too. Paul's and Peter's (Hampf) PCs must know something :)) -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Vili wrote on 03/04/2008 at 01:30:26 +1100 subject Problem displaying a mail : I dont know if it is TB's fault or not. See attached mail (exported and removed the addresses). If I take a look at the source, I can read the mail. But in TB, there are only empty squares in the first half of the mail... It displays fine here on Win2k -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 4.0.20 - Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.7.0 Extended Macro Plugin 1.1.9.0 - Windows 2000 ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem displaying a mail
Wednesday, April 2, 2008, Peter Hampf wrote: Here, Win XP SP2, it looks as shown in the attachments. XP SP2 here too. I can read the text version but get squares in the HTML-version. -- Urbiz I was looking for my shoes but I couln't find them anywhere. I looked in the kitchen and in the bathroom, but I didn't find them. Then I remembered that I put them in the closet. I opened the closed and there they where, both of them, gone. Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
