Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-25 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, February 24, 2007, 21:24:11, Ian A. White wrote:

 I know it certainly is possible for spammers to use dictionary methods
 to get your e-mail address, however when you do not use dictionary
 words in your username, it points to someone harvesting them.

Tell that to spammers trying to send stuff to random completely made
up words on my mail server.

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Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-25 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, February 25, 2007, 21:18:33, Ian A. White wrote:

 That is a little different in that there spammers are targeting a
 known domain. The spam (and I have received even more now) is not
 coming to my domain (where I restrict the usernames I will accept
 anyway), but to a slave address at my ISP account. What you are
 describing is attacks on domains that are configured to catch all.

No, I'm describing what I see in the greylist filter logs.

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Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-24 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi,

 I use an e-mail address on these lists that is not used anywhere else,
 but I have received my first spam to this address.

Well, that doesn't mean anything. I have an email address that I never
use (I got it all along with my ISP connection) and from time to time
I got a spam mail to that one.

No one has that mail address in a address book either. So I guess
someone's just trying addresses.

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Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-24 Thread George Mitchell
Raymund Tump wrote:

 I use an e-mail address on these lists that is not used anywhere
 else, but I have received my first spam to this address.

RT Well, that doesn't mean anything. I have an email address that I never
RT use (I got it all along with my ISP connection) and from time to time
RT I got a spam mail to that one.

I've been using unique addresses for these lists for a long time now,
and they do periodically get compromised.  I'm up to address #4.  This
most recent time I started to get a steady stream of Nigerian scam
type emails to my list address.

RT No one has that mail address in a address book either. So I guess
RT someone's just trying addresses.

I have a lot of addresses at this domain and it's very rare for any of
them to get a spam.  There's no way a dictionary attack is hitting my
list address and no others.

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Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-24 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello George
On Saturday, February 24, 2007 you wrote:

 Raymund Tump wrote:


 I have a lot of addresses at this domain and it's very rare for any of
 them to get a spam.  There's no way a dictionary attack is hitting my
 list address and no others.

Spammers are clever. Dictionary attacks etc. Ever open one up even 
accidentally? You probably
just verified your email address as real via web beacons. (Not in
The Bat of course but one feature I loved in Thunderbird was the ability to 
choose whether or
not you wanted to view graphics either once or always from that source)

I have an email address that has NEVER been used except when my ISP
contacts me with it. It went out in the (in)famous AOL sellout of the
user database to spammers (I was with Time-Warner was the parent
company of AOL). That one was caught - how many aren't? I am starting
to get spam through a Google account that has been in use for some
time.

There are some neat harvesters out there. I used to use one to grab
all the graphics from a site. It would also grab all the email
addresses among other things. I have a friend that forwards jokes
with all the recipients intact.

Whatever system is out there, there is someone who has nothing better
to do than break it.


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Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Ian,

Friday, February 23, 2007, 9:17:44 PM, you wrote:

IAW I use an e-mail address on these lists that is not used anywhere else,
IAW but I have received my first spam to this address.

I thought I could say the same with such an address on a another, local,
list.

Actually, you can't be sure. Let's suppose someone has entered your
email address in his/her Adressbook (can be in another application too),
that PC gets infected and your mail address gets harvested in that way...


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Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Ian A. White wrote on 24/02/2007 at 07:17:44 +1100 
subject Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists :

 I use an e-mail address on these lists that is not used anywhere else,
 but I have received my first spam to this address.

There could be one of the list members infected with an virus. This
virus could search on his/her PC for addresses and send them home to
the virus author.

Install some Anti-Junk-Plugin and create some appropriate rule.

Regula will work fine: http://www.gaijin.at/tbpregula.php

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Re: Someone is harvesting e-mail addresses from these lists

2007-02-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Simon,

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:12:38 + GMT (24/02/2007, 04:12 +0700 GMT),
Simon wrote:

S I too suspect that one of the list members had a Virus and became
S compromised, though I also think in the past some mails from my
S have slipped through to GMane when I have forgotten to add the
S no-archive header, not sure if this will have had any effect.

No, it's not Gmane. I created this email account exclusively for TBUDL
and TBBETA, because I was afraid that email addresses could be
harvested by Gmane (someone remember the discussion at the time?).
After a few years of using this account, I receive 1-2 spam mails per
day. I consider this close to zero.

You should see the email account I use on the usenet! I filter on any
message to Trash.

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