Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
Hello all, It appears I got no reply regarding my earlier query on new licence prices, but it looks like upgrading to Home is now cheaper than before: 15,95 € + VAT instead of 19,95 € + VAT. So, no reason to buy it in September rather than October or later; after all, the current licences are valid for all 6.x versions that have not yet been released. I only hope it will be possible to upgrade my current *complimentary* Pro version to a future Home version. By the way, opening the purchase webpage at RITlabs.com loads the Malayan (!) interface by default, with a German (!) title in the browser's title bar. Also, there are The Bat resellers here in Slovakia, yet they are not mentioned at RITlabs.com at all. As to The Bat for Android or iOS, I beg to differ from others who have contributed to this thread. To me, The Bat is no longer the fastest way to handle large amounts of incoming email. My primary email software since the spring of this year has been Mailbox on iOS, www.mailboxapp.com . There is just no comparison, as to how fast it is compared to The Bat, *especially* for handling large volumes of email. The Bat seems too slow and inefficient by comparison. To me, the following are the 2 key advantages offered by Mailbox and missing in The Bat: 1) ablity to move *dozens of threads* from folder to folder with a single swipe of your finger -- even if you use keyboard shortcuts in The Bat, the same operation is a *lot* slower 2) ability to order messages in a folder *manually*: not according to date, not according to authors, not according to subject -- but *manual* ordering of messages, where you can, for example, order your messages in the order of their perceived priority to you; the sequence in which you intend to process those emails. Simply tap a message with your finger, and move it to any place in the folder you find appropriate. There is zero equivalent in The Bat to this *crucial* (to me) and truly revolutionary functionality offered by Mailbox. Apart from the 2 lacking crucial features above, The Bat seems noticeably slower than Mailbox for accessing mail via IMAP. I have 4 Gmail IMAP accounts enabled in both The Bat and Mailbox. Mailbox handles all 4 accounts with the same speed: instantaneously. The Bat is very slow in handling 1 of the 4 IMAP accounts -- my oldest Gmail account. The 3 other Gmail accounts set up in more recent years, work relatively fast in The Bat. But for that oldest IMAP account, despite its Inbox being empty (!!!) at the end of each day, I sometimes need to wait for *dozens of seconds* before the body of a message appears in The Bat. I have tested this on 2 separate computers running The Bat -- the same slow-down for the same IMAP account is there on both computers. It *never* happens in Mailbox for the same IMAP account -- the bodies of messages load pretty much instantly there. That said, the *editor* for *composing* messages in Mailbox is absolutely awful. To me, nothing compares to the beauty of efficiency of The Bat's MicroEd plaintext editor. In Mailbox, you can't even *disable HTML* when sending out a message. MicroEd, along with reply templates, is the no. 1 reason why I still use The Bat at least once a day (typically, whenever I need to write a longer message), and why I'll be purchasing the new licence. And so, to me, simply making the current The Bat available on Android/iOS, would be no solution. I would still continue using Mailbox as my primary email program, because it's so much faster and more efficient than The Bat. The ideal solution, to me, would be The Bat on Android/iOS that would *combine* the advanced Mailbox mail management functionality (I hope they have no copyright on it) with the advantages of The Bat's MicroEd plain-text editor, reply templates, etc. Bottom line: for processing emails received, Mailbox is the king. But for *composing* emails, The Bat is the king. Neither Mailbox, nor The Bat are, therefore, 100% ideal. The ideal would only be an email program *combining* the current advantages of Mailbox and The Bat. -- Yours, Alex. of Slovakia www.avenarius.sk [flying with The Bat! 5.4 under Windows 7 64-bit 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 AMD Athlon II X4 645 @ 3.10 GHz 8 GB RAM] Current beta is 5.8.6.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
Hello NetVicious, Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 12:46:43 AM, you wrote: lunes, 30 sep 2013 at 10:47, it seems you wrote: Basically, RITLabs would have to launch a brand new Android development team and create - from scratch - a whole new program. There exist a Delphi Android RAD application [1] Yes, this is what I feared most when writing the original message. ;) I hope RitLabs will not go this way, because porting PC code using a RAD tool to a very limited system with very specific development needs (and Linux-based, while the original platform is Windows) cannot result in anything good. That approach would probably be OK for an advertising App showing but a few HTML pages - but not for a program that does a lot itself and needs to use as much as possible of the possible host platform features. If a Thebat for Android is to be a good and efficient program, it must also be written for Android and not just bent. And with that in mind, I think there are players who are trying to do that for some time already and I prefer unlessened development power for TheBat! rather to share it with a new experimental app. -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
Hello Dierk, that's of course one of the tings that would be nice, but such a development would have nothing to do with TheBat! except for a similar icon and the fact that both somehow are mail clients. Unlike with Voyager, the synergy of the two would be close to 0. Basically, RITLabs would have to launch a brand new Android development team and create - from scratch - a whole new program. Do they have so much free resources? If so, I, personally, would rather like to see them used for a stable TheBat! There are several players on Android now, whose advantage would take a lot of resources to catch up with. -- Cheers, Viktor mailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
Hello Viktor, Monday, September 30, 2013, 4:47:29 AM, you wrote: that's of course one of the tings that would be nice, but such a development would have nothing to do with TheBat! except for a similar icon and the fact that both somehow are mail clients. Unlike with Voyager, the synergy of the two would be close to 0. Basically, RITLabs would have to launch a brand new Android development team and create - from scratch - a whole new program. Do they have so much free resources? If so, I, personally, would rather like to see them used for a stable TheBat! There are several players on Android now, whose advantage would take a lot of resources to catch up with. I have to agree with that point. I think the strength of The Bat is the ability to provide an great product that makes it possible to work through large volumes of e-mail.Personally, any additional resources that the current development team has should be spent on further refining and strengthening The Bat. The Bat remains one of the few e-mail clients that serves as a real work horse when dealing with a lot of e-mail. Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com learn more about by visiting http://about.me/ToPFacilitator Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
Personally, any additional resources that the current development team has should be spent on further refining and strengthening The Bat Agreed. There is a 3rd party app for Ipads that will let you run your computer via wireless. You can load the Bat, check mail, delete - move mail etc. Just saying ... -- Rick They that start by burning books will end by burning men.? -Heinrich Heine v5.8.2 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
9/30/2013 7:32 AM Hi Rick, On 9/30/2013 Rick wrote: R There is a 3rd party app for Ipads that will let you run R your computer via wireless. You can load the Bat, check mail, delete - move mail etc. R Just saying ... TeamViewer is the king here... - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
TeamViewer is the king here... No being an Android owner I will take your word for it, but there ARE solutions out there without creating a scaled down app (aren't they ALL scaled down?) -- Rick The western world now obeys the percepts of commerce.A bloody demanding religion,if you ask me.The do's and don'ts change every season and your everyone doesn't want to be left out,so they rush headlong to comply.That continuous change has a function,a single aim.Maximum consumption.They want to go on milking you.From the cradle to the grave.Face it:You're a brain washed ,walking purse,a robot,the fuel multinationals run on. Esther Verhoef v5.8.2 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
On Monday, September 30, 2013, 12:58:39 PM, Rick wrote: Agreed. There is a 3rd party app for Ipads that will let you run your computer via wireless. You can load the Bat, check mail, delete - move mail etc. Just saying ... well, the tread was about android, not apple -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.8.2 on Windows 7 version 6,1 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
well, the tread was about android, not apple Correct - I was just stating that there are other options besides a scaled down app. Paul also made a suggestion that might work for you -- Rick Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. President Dwight D. Eisenhower April 16, 1953 v5.8.2 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
lunes, 30 sep 2013 at 10:47, it seems you wrote: Basically, RITLabs would have to launch a brand new Android development team and create - from scratch - a whole new program. There exist a Delphi Android RAD application [1] As I know TB! it's writed on Delphi, so they should check how much code they need to recode. http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.8.2 Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.3.1.5 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
Hello Dierk, On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:36:13 +0200 GMT (28-Sep-13, 16:36 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: Hello TBBETA Members! Considering mobile computing shifts from full-blown, Windows-based laptops towards tablets and cell phones often using Android, wouldn't it be nice if we get The Bat! for Android instead of Voyager? I'd love TB! for Android! Using K-9 there now. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.8 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
On Sunday, September 29, 2013, 3:28:26 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I'd love TB! for Android! Using K-9 there now. ditto on both counts -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.8.2 on Windows 7 version 6,1 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Suggestion: The Bat! for Android
Hello TBBETA Members! Considering mobile computing shifts from full-blown, Windows-based laptops towards tablets and cell phones often using Android, wouldn't it be nice if we get The Bat! for Android instead of Voyager? -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.8.2 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request There are four essential things in the world: Life, Truth, Freedom, Love. From them stems everything, and none of them is superior to the others. [Derek Leveret] Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
