Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos re-installation question)
Hello Allie, Saturday, June 5, 2004, 2:50:25 PM, you wrote: AM I've never actually uninstalled and then reinstalled TB!. I always AM just swap executables. I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did not understand one thing: When you say install over do you mean to run the complete installation exe or do you mean just to exchange to old thebat.exe against the new thebat.exe ? What other files does the installation exe update? Is there a reason not to just swap simply the executables, but to run the installation exe? I want to migrate from 2.10.01 to 2.11.02. -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
On 6-6 at 17:47 Thomas wrote: Hello Thomas - folder compression, especially for the Inbox and Outbox. SM I've run the compleate maintenence on all folders in all accounts - it SM only recovered some disc space, but did nothing to the CPU problems. I noticed that TB runs faster after a defrag. I now use Diskeeper for degragging, as it is faster and finds more fragmented files that the built-in Windows defragger. It's not long ago I ran Norton Speeddisk (a defragger). But during the peaks there is no disc activity at all, actually when there is any disc activity it goes down. -- Best regards Simon Mikkelsen Contact information http://mikkelsen.tv/simon/contact/ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
sat. 5-6 at 17:55 Allie wrote: Things that come to mind and are worth checking: - folder compression, especially for the Inbox and Outbox. I've run the compleate maintenence on all folders in all accounts - it only recovered some disc space, but did nothing to the CPU problems. - plugin use, especially antispam have been reportedly culpable for problems as you're experiencing. I tried to remove my only plugin BayersIt, and it didn't help either. I also tried to disable my Norton Antivirus. - a mailbase that is problematic will have TB! spending an inordinately long time with it. It happens in all folders, in all of my 4 accounts. One have only handled less than 100 mails. - check your temp folder for overload. TB! uses the temp folder when downloading messages and an overloaded temp folder will slow it down. Empty - didn't help. I think it is a regular bug, and not just the usual errors in the mailbox files. The problem has existed from I ran 2.11 the first time, and I have never had any problems with 2.x. It would be too much of a coincidence if 4 mailboxes should be damaged at the exact same time as I upgraded. As far as I know the installation does not alter the mailbox files, and no one else have had this problem -- Best regards Simon Mikkelsen Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
Sunday, June 6, 2004, 3:42:55 PM, Thomas wrote: AM - a mailbase that is problematic will have TB! spending an AM inordinately long time with it. AJ This is my current favourite. Despite my comments above, I originally AJ suspected the account I subsequently repaired. Maybe TB! is doing AJ something at the last gasp, after the windows are all closed and maybe AJ this is tripping over a dodgy account. My mailbase is, after all, about AJ the only constant in this whole affair. TF Try this: Create a new folder. Can be inthe same account. TF Go to the troublesome Inbox. Mark all messages, and copy them to the TF newly-created folder. TF Close TB. Delete the messages.tbb and messages.tbi files in the Inbox' TF directory. (What I do in such cases is to just rename, them, so TB TF won't find them, but I can still go back if I want to.) TF Open TB. a new messages.tbb will be created, but your Inbox is now TF empty. TF Go to the new folder and copy all messages to the Inbox. TF Now see if the problem has disappeared. Done. Problem remains. :-( -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
On Mon 7 June 2004, 15:15:24 +1000, Cyrille wrote: At the end of the QT I omitted also the # at the end of the last code line. Ah, yes I see now. I hadn't noticed that previously. What is this # good for? The %If macro works like this: %If:var1comparison operatorvar2:action if true:action if false which is equivalent to %If:var1comparison operatorvar2%- :action if true%- :action if false However, if you have nested %If macros, you need to adjust the delimiters (). So if you want to do another comparison operation if the first one is false, you might end up with: %If:var1comparison operatorvar2%- :if true 1%- :%If:'var1'comparison operator'var3':'if true 2':'if false 2' Note that I have used one delimiter (') for the inner %If macro, and a different one () for the outer. More complex macro combinations can have multiple levels of delimiters from nested %If, regex and other macros, requiring careful choice of delimiters. Common ones are ,',^,#,_,$ although almost any character can be used. Now in the QT we are referring to, there is a %if macro statement that starts %If:#%_SetLang###:##:#%- It is checking to see if %_SetLang is blank, using # as the delimiter (#%_SetLang###) If %_SetLang is blank, nothing happens because the action if true is blank (##) If %_SetLang is not blank then the rest of the QT should get executed (the end of the action if false is the last # of the QT, which you deleted). Since it was the last character in the QT, I don't think it will cause a problem, but it would be better to have it back in. However, it would be better to have the # before the %- to remove the blank line that will otherwise be there. The reason I used # as the delimiter is because within the action if false I had one regex and seven %If statements all separately using and ' as delimiters. == What *exactly* does %-? Put simply, it tells TB! to ignore a following new line (i.e. a blank line). It will also mark the end of a macro if there might be ambiguity about where the end is. For example, above I wrote %If:var1comparison operatorvar2%- :action if true%- :action if false as an alternative to having the %If statement on a single line. TB! sees it as a single line because of the %- at the end of each line. The reason I wrote it like that is because it is simpler to understand with the three parts to the %If statement on three separate lines. In addition, however, if I wanted to set the subject, from and to address in a QT, I could put %subject=something %from=me [EMAIL PROTECTED] %to=you [EMAIL PROTECTED] When TB! processed that, each line would affect the headers, BUT EACH LINE WOULD ALSO LEAVE A BLANK LINE IN THE BODY OF THE EMAIL. That is because TB! is very literal about the way it processes the content of QTs. If the QT contains plain text, it simply gets written to the place it is called from (the body of your message). If it contains a mixture of macros and plain text, the macros get executed, and the plain text gets copied to the body of your message. Now TB! sees all the new lines as plain text. They are not part of the macro, so they simply get written to the body of your message. If you don't want that, you must tell TB! to ignore the new line by putting %- immediately before it. So if you write %subject=something%- %from=me [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %to=you [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- TB! ignores all those new lines and you don't get three blank lines in the body of your message. It's simple, but also confusing. I hope I have helped clear up some confusion! ;-) -- No smiley icon there as far as I am concerned!! -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: installing 2.11
Hello Robin, On 7 Jun 2004 at 10:09:14 +1000 GMT [02:09 CEST] you wrote: RA I installed 2.x over the top of 1.x without any problems. I think the RA only issue is you may not be able to go back from 2.x to 1.x without RA re-installing. It has to do with changes to the folder structure. You can go back. The only thing is any changes you made to the folder structure in v2 will not be there in v1. -- Cheers, Andre Beato chi può dire a se stesso: io ho asciugato una lacrima. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos re-installation question)
Hello Cyrille, On 7 Jun 2004 at 08:24:50 +0200 GMT [08:24 CEST] you wrote: C I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did not understand C one thing: C When you say install over do you mean to run the complete C installation exe or do you mean just to exchange to old thebat.exe C against the new thebat.exe ? C What other files does the installation exe update? C Is there a reason not to just swap simply the executables, but to run C the installation exe? Without the installation you will not get the smilies and if there were any updates to the helpfile you will miss those as well. -- Cheers, Andre He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 03:18:40PM -0400, Bob wrote: Smileys and Mail Chat- can anyone tell me why Ritlabs has added these silly features to its awesome mailer? Smileys seems like something straight out of AOL's cheesy mailer, and those of us that actually use instant messaging are probably not going to ditch what we currently use in favor of Mail Chat anytime soon. No, especially not when it doesn't seem to be compatible with other things than TB! itself. (or am i wrong here) If i'm right, then i can't help wondering what the benefits of mail chat would be. I have some friends, but i'm quite alone among them in using TB! The idea is neat, but if it's only to be compatible with TB, then i don't see the point in it. -- /Krister, committing blasphemy by using Mutt 1.56 under Debian Gnu/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Hallo Cyrille, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 07:15:24 +0200GMT (7-6-04, 7:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C At the end of the QT I omitted also the # at the end of the last code C line. That's isn't a very good idea. You'd better put it back. C What is this # good for? It's a delimiter, just like you can use or '' to separate sections, you can also use ##, _ _ or . In this case your first %if statement uses #, so it read %if:#condition#:#then#:#else# The else part was a whole lot of %if's and by omitting the last # you confuse TB where to stop with your %if. It might go alright because there's nothing relevant until the end of the QT, but as a matter of principle you should always try to use a correct syntax. C What *exactly* does %-? It tells the editor to ignore the newline character immidiately behind it. So the editor translates this: I'm typing a $- silly text. to I'm typing a silly text In this example the %- macro has no real use, but in complex macros or QT's it can enhance the readability by placing separate constructs on a single line in stead of having everything on one single line. C Where in the help file or where on the net can I read more about # and C %- ? The # part is explained in the 'main macros page' in the help. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Krister Ekstrom, [KE] wrote: KE No, especially not when it doesn't seem to be compatible with KE other things than TB! itself. (or am i wrong here) If i'm right, KE then i can't help wondering what the benefits of mail chat would KE be. I have some friends, but i'm quite alone among them in using KE TB! The idea is neat, but if it's only to be compatible with TB, KE then i don't see the point in it. How about a large office setting users are on an LAN and behind a proxy and cannot use the usual chat software. All in the office use TB!. Mail chat would work well there. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.02 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpHxH6ia8eUq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos re-installation question)
Cyrille, [C] wrote: C I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did C not understand one thing: When you say install over do you mean C to run the complete installation exe or do you mean just to C exchange to old thebat.exe against the new thebat.exe ? Yes, it means running the complete installation. Simply run the install. It will automatically update the old one. Uninstalling and then reinstalling the newer version isn't necessary. In fact, on the TB! download page, below the table listing the files for download is: ,- / \ | * Note for users of previous versions of The Bat! - do not uninstall | your existing copy of The Bat! - just install the new version over. It | will save your breath and time. `- C What other files does the installation exe update? C Is there a reason not to just swap simply the executables, but to run C the installation exe? For full releases you may miss updates to files like the help. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.02 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0oy4j1e8W1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The bat and kapersky AV
Hi, I use the bat 2.11.02. I want to use an anti-virus soft as plug in in the bat. I wanted to use AVG but I thing free version doesn't offer the plug in. I had to buy AVG 7. But if I have to buy an AV, I prefer Kapersky. I've just downloaded the Personal version 5.0 of Kapersky and install it. All works fine except the plug in in the bat. When I click on Kapersky Plug in in the preferences, error occurs and message box says go on www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/kapersky.html But this link doesn't exist and I can't find any information on the site, the FAQ, and others forums. Can you help me ? Thanks Wil from France WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The bat and kapersky AV
Hello WilWilWil, On 7 Jul 2004 at 13:30:37 +0200 GMT [13:30 CEST] you wrote: W Hi, W I use the bat 2.11.02. I want to use an anti-virus soft as plug in in the bat. W I wanted to use AVG but I thing free version doesn't offer the plug in. I had to W buy AVG 7. There's a plugin for AVG 6 (free): http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat10us.exe -- Cheers, Andre I hate racial discrimination most intensely and all its manifestations. I have fought all my life; I fight now, and will do so until the end of my days. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! V2.10.01 and KAV plug-in.
Hello Chris, Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 11:36, you wrote: Is anyone currently using a KAV plug-in for TB! that is fully working? CW Surely someone here is using TB! V2.10.03 with KAV successfully!? Yes. 3.5 with the 3.0 plugin. CW So no-one here is using the latest version of TB! with KAV 4.5? Sorry for the delay -I believe that _I_ am. I never quite got my head around KAV versions, but I've got 4.5 Personal Pro, all components are v.4.5.0.94 except the scanner which is 95. My plug-in is 3.5.9.0, with database dated 2004/06/07 which is reassuring. I've been pretty frustrated by the complete lack of information about the plug-in and what it's doing and more importantly what it's done! But I do find suspicious messages dropped into the quarantine folder from time-to-time... -- Nick Using TheBat!: v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Hello Robin, Monday, June 7, 2004, 9:41:40 AM, you wrote: What *exactly* does %-? RA It tells TB! to ignore a following new line (i.e. a blank line). RA It will also mark the end of a macro if there might be ambiguity about RA where the end is. (...) RA When TB! processed that, each line would affect the headers, BUT EACH RA LINE WOULD ALSO LEAVE A BLANK LINE IN THE BODY OF THE EMAIL. RA So if you write RA%subject=something%- RA%from=me [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- RA%to=you [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- RA TB! ignores all those new lines and you don't get three blank lines in RA the body of your message. Thank you for taking the time to give such a detailed answer. I found your explanations extremely clear and very helpful. But now I happen to have the problem the other way around!!! Lines disappear which should be there. With my several levels of nested QT it seems that one of the QT swallows lines of the others. But I could not determine where it comes from: What I do is still based on what you proposed in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RA This would allow you to have: RA* one SetLanguage QT, RA* one master template for new messages RA* one master template for replies RA* one master template for forwarding RA Then each language that you want to support would have a 3 'slave' RA templates, one for new messages, one for replies and one for forwarding. For the moment I have it working only for new messages. In addition to your proposition I have a lang_parameters_XX QT in each language where I set %Charset and %Language. I include these QTs in the three 'slave' templates instead of defining three times the same parameters. Now comes the complicated part: My signature is split into two of the above mentioned templates. The cut mark and a 'Many greetings' line are in the language 'slaves' (since this is language dependent). But my e-mail, URL, phone, etc. is in the master template (because it is the same in all languages). These two elements should be simply one beneath the other. What happens is that the cut mark and the 'Many greetings' line are OK, but below, the part coming from the master, misses its first row and starts only with the 2nd row. Here comes the code of the master template: [ master_new_message ] %QInclude(SetLanguage)%- %If:%_SetLang=AM:%QInclude(new_EN):%- %If:%_SetLang=FR:%QInclude(new_FR):%- %If:%_SetLang=DE:%QInclude(new_DE):%- %If:%_SetLang=SK:%QInclude(new_SK):%- %If:%_SetLang=CZ:%QInclude(new_SK):%- %If:%_SetLang=RU:%QInclude(new_RU):%- %If:%_SetLang=HU:%QInclude(new_HU):%- %If:%_SetLang=PL:%QInclude(new_PL): mailto:%FROMADDR http://www.mydomain.net My address and my phone [ end of master_new_message ] And this is the code of the language slaves: [ new_FR ] Bonjour %CAPITALFIRST=%TOFName, %QInclude(lang_parameters_FR)%- Texte en français %CURSOR -- A bientôt, [ end of new_FR ] The output of this looks like this - [ generated message ] Bonjour Cyrille, Texte en français [cursor] -- A bientôt, http://www.mydomain.net My address and my phone - [ end of generated message ] This means that the mailto:%FROMADDR line was dropped. Why? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! V2.10.01 and KAV plug-in.
Nick Dutton wrote: My plug-in is 3.5.9.0, with database dated 2004/06/07 which is reassuring. Do you happen to have the pug-in available to mail to me off list? I've been pretty frustrated by the complete lack of information about the plug-in and what it's doing and more importantly what it's done! I've messaged on both the TB! lists and on the KAV forum regarding an up to date plug-in for the newer versions of TB!, but I've received a total lack of response. Everyone seems to be focused on new versions of existing products rather than supporting the current customer base. But I do find suspicious messages dropped into the quarantine folder from time-to-time... The plug-in is working flawlessly on one of my machines, but on the other that is configured in exactly the same way, same software etc, but doesn't work at all! Thanks for responding though Nick :-) -- Chris Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Hallo Cyrille, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:42 +0200GMT (7-6-04, 15:18 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C %If:%_SetLang=AM:%QInclude(new_EN):%- Try to insert behind every last colon or omit every trailing colon. It looks like the %if statement are grabbing some extra text, since the editor thinks he still has to process something. Maybe a %- behind the last %if statement might work too. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Extending Trial Period
Is it possible to extend the trial period? Just for several hours, I mean. :-) I have bought TheBat online through a local reseller as advised on the RITLabs website. What I didn't know is that all information (including, I guess, serial number) is coming by mail. Now I fire TheBat, it takes the mail from my account (in POP3, WITHOUT leaving it on server) and then all I can do is close it as my trial period is over. So here I am with my Serial Number probably somewhere in my mailbox and unable to read it because I cannot activate TheBat (to do this I need my serial number which is... well you got it). This 'after trial I take your mail but you can not read it'-thing might be a good marketing weapon but it can be pesky at times. :-) Or could RIT send me my number on another email address? I should be able to provide a copy of my receipt, but it is in my mailbox. Ah-ah. :-) Stephan Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to set up batpost properly ?
Hi all, I'm currently evaluating Batpost. I ask the question on this list because apparently there is not one dedicated to BatPost. I read the two pdfs provided with the program (the quickstart guide and the admin manual) but I don't understand how to set up the server and especially what dns domain address to indicate in order to do it works properly. Does someone use this program and can help me to set it up ? Is there any detailed document in which we can learn how to manage this server and set it up properly ? Could you give me some advice ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Secure Bat! v2.10.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Extending Trial Period
Hallo Stephan, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:44:18 +0200GMT (7-6-2004, 17:44 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SF So here I am with my Serial Number probably somewhere in my mailbox and SF unable to read it because I cannot activate TheBat (to do this I need my SF serial number which is... well you got it). I don't know how to extend your trial period, but it's possible to read messages in your message base without using TB. Go to the directory containing your messagebase (It's probably an account called Batmail, but I don't know where TBsetup and you agreed to store it) Open your account directory Open the Inbox directory Open the file messages.tbb with a text editor Find the message from Ritlabs and copy the registration code Close the text editor (without saving anything, you wouldn't like a corrupte message base) Open TB Paste the registration code. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Extending Trial Period
Hi Stephan, on Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:44:18 +0200GMT, you wrote: SF Is it possible to extend the trial period? Just for several hours, I SF mean. :-) In the 1.xx series you got an automatic extension of ten days - I don't know if this is still valid... SF I have bought TheBat online through a local reseller as advised on the SF RITLabs website. What I didn't know is that all information (including, SF I guess, serial number) is coming by mail. Now I fire TheBat, it takes SF the mail from my account (in POP3, WITHOUT leaving it on server) and SF then all I can do is close it as my trial period is over. This is indeed a weird situation... Maybe you could get the key sent to another address from your local reseller? They should have your data stored...? Or perhaps /cheating/ might work. Set your computer's clock back to the trial period and reboot the system. ;-) -- Cheers Peter You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. Winamp currently playing: Garth Brooks w. Billy Joel - NY State of Mind Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Extending Trial Period
Hello Stephan, on Monday, 7. June 2004, at 17:44:18 [GMT +0200] you wrote: Is it possible to extend the trial period? Just for several hours, I mean. :-) set your System-Time 2 days back. Should work. -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.11.02 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0x70D9F03B HP: http://www.thebatworld.de Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with Bayesit! Plugin... once more :(
Is there a way to reset the bayesit! plugin ? It always annoys me with this missing files (see below) Sunday, June 6, 2004, 8:23:05 PM, tu m'a écris: MDP Dear Arnaud, MDP @6-Jun-2004, 20:10 +0200 (06-Jun 19:10 UK time) Arnaud Lecat [AL] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: AL I thought my problems with Bayesit! would be over. AL But once again in the plugin info i have these lines AL C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\bayesit\base\spamdict.bye AL Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost. AL spamdict.bye is here but it size is zero bytes :( AL Hlp MDP Wild shot in the dark time. What AV software do you use? Could your MDP dictionary have been quarantined by it because of the presence of MDP an infected message? MDP I'm beginning to get a funny feeling about disappearing files on MDP systems that use 'nanny' type AV solutions. Could it be the case? Chi you choun -- El Sinior NoNo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- My name is ZoNe, NoNoZoNe !!! http://www.nonozone.com Pour vous abonner à la Mailing List NoNoZoNe, envoyez un message vide à [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The bat and kapersky AV
Hello WilWilWil, Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 6:30:37 AM, you wrote: W I use the bat 2.11.02. I want to use an anti-virus soft as plug in in the bat. W I wanted to use AVG but I thing free version doesn't offer the plug in. I had to W buy AVG 7. W But if I have to buy an AV, I prefer Kapersky. I've just downloaded the Personal W version 5.0 of Kapersky and install it. All works fine except the plug in in the W bat. When I click on Kapersky Plug in in the preferences, error occurs and W message box says go on www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/kapersky.html W But this link doesn't exist and I can't find any information on the site, the W FAQ, and others forums. W Can you help me ? W Thanks W Wil from France Is it July in France already. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New Key Checksum codes
Hello , OK, I just downloaded and installed (over my old 1.xx version) the latest version of TB!. I find that I can't use my old Key and Checksum codes with this new version. What do I have to do to get new codes? Do I have to actually purchase TB! again? -- Best regards, Jack mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v2.11.02 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: installing 2.11
Good evening Robin, It was foretold that on 7-6-2004 @ 10:09:14 GMT+1000 (which was 2:09:14 where I live) Robin Anson would write: snipped a bit RA I installed 2.x over the top of 1.x without any problems. Great! -- Best regards, Luc http://www.dzinelabs.com --- Powered by The Bat! version 2.11 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 and using the best browser: Opera. Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one. - AJ Liebling. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Key Checksum codes
Hi Jack, On Monday, June 07, 2004, at 1:18:40 PM PST, you wrote: What do I have to do to get new codes? Do I have to actually purchase TB! again? Yes. There was a period of time when users of v1.x could get a substantial discount when upgrading to v2.x. The new version has been available for a while now, so I think that discount offer is no longer in effect. -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys TB! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp7gGUwgNVJa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The bat and kapersky AV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Stuart, On 07 June 2004, 15:19 -0500 (07/06/200421:19 local time) Stuart Cuddy [SC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SC Is it July in France already. It's like France in July here today! B-) - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMTWODknq5PWREYNEQJ3bACg48n2bKh1ehiiHIQn3aUx/LX912IAn0wG y4LoE0oT7vvB9Cn7/P9Lpqzn =Mxsq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The bat and kapersky AV
Hello Stuart, on Monday, 7. June 2004, at 15:19:35 [GMT -0500] you wrote: W But if I have to buy an AV, I prefer Kapersky. I've just downloaded the Personal W version 5.0 of Kapersky and install it. All works fine except the plug in in the W bat. When I click on Kapersky Plug in in the preferences, error occurs and W message box says go on www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/kapersky.html Download the latest KAV Plugin 4.0.1.19. Works perfect. http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=visitlid=44 -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.11.03 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0x70D9F03B HP: http://www.thebatworld.de Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Repair Message Base doesn't work
Hi, everyone. I'm using TB 2.11.02 on Windows ME. I just upgraded from 2.0, hoping the upgrade would solve this problem. Unfortunately, it did not. All of a sudden, I'm having a problem with one of my mailboxes. Every time I try to open an existing, already read email in the inbox for this account, I get the message An error occurred while reading the message base. When I check the integrity/repair option in the Folder Maintenance Centre, TB does its thing and tells me the folder has been processed. It gives me the following message: Messages recovered: 54, damaged parts (part.bin) saved: 0 Processing finished. 1 folders processed However, it hasn't repaired the problem. I still can't access any of the messages in this folder. Any ideas on how to repair this folder's message base? The TBB file is 528k, but I haven't put any limits on the number of messages that can be stored in this folder... nor have I ever purged it. Thanks! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Bayesit! Plugin... once more :(
Dear Arnaud, @7-Jun-2004, 20:19 +0200 (07-Jun 19:19 UK time) Arnaud Lecat [AL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: AL Is there a way to reset the bayesit! plugin ? It always AL annoys me with this missing files (see below) I don't know - I don't use the plugins. Isn't there anything in the configuration for the plugin? -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user SB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpAKik9GQX9G.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Key Checksum codes
Hello Melissa, Monday, June 7, 2004, 3:29:26 PM, you wrote: MR Hi Jack, MR On Monday, June 07, 2004, at 1:18:40 PM PST, you wrote: What do I have to do to get new codes? Do I have to actually purchase TB! again? MR Yes. There was a period of time when users of v1.x could get a Thanks Melissa. That's what I get for being out of the loop for so long. Oh well, Mom said I should always pay attention. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v2.11.02 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The bat and kapersky AV
==Original message text=== From: Stuart Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, June 7, 2004, 10:19:35 PM Subject: The bat and kapersky AV SC Is it July in France already. ===End of original message text=== Maybe a need of Holidays WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Key Checksum codes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Melissa, On 07 June 2004, 13:29 -0700 (07/06/200421:29 local time) Melissa Reese [MR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I have to do to get new codes? Do I have to actually purchase TB! again? MR Yes. There was a period of time when users of v1.x could get a MR substantial discount when upgrading to v2.x. The new version has been MR available for a while now, so I think that discount offer is no longer MR in effect. There are some offers on at the moment if you're upgrading 1.x... $17.50 student, $24.50 personal and $31.50 business. The offer should have ended 1 June but it still shows... maybe if you're quick? - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMTawzknq5PWREYNEQKrFwCfadPT1FMOmcxmjllXNqKiho0c9oAAoNED 274Vealb7If6L9vksNXtVmSF =uV3y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
rich gregory wrote: My take on Smileys and mail chat: If they are mail client specific then they are completely useless. I agree, but I'm now not so sure I fully understand the chat feature. (still playing catch-up with new features, and no longer have my test machine for beta-testing). I thought I read somewhere (release notes?) that the chat feature could be used to watch a conversation (?) Could this be used in such a way as to create a virtual folder of *threads* to watch? That would be pretty cool, I think. Currently, trying to do something like that is possible, but would involve a lot of extra work (filters and message coloring, etc.) I would definitely use something that I could mark a *thread* to watch. Do I have this all consufed? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Thomas Fernandez wrote: No time was wasted (Note: not just to Thomas) I don't understand why this argument keeps getting raised. I know that 9Val made this claim in the context of no *development* time was wasted, but I think even in that context, a not insignificant time has been allotted to smileys alone. Without getting into the merits of smileys in general, or how Ritlabs announced them, etc. one still cannot ignore the number of messages devoted to a topic that some claim no time was wasted. Every beta-tester that posts a question about smileys takes away time from them posting about a bug that isn't fixed yet. Every response to above takes away time from addressing bugs that haven't been fixed. Are we to believe that smiley development is still getting done on personal time? (remembering that this was part of an official release) I really don't want to debate smileys. I can accept them as something I simply won't use - and if it doesn't interfere with my use of TB, no problem. I realize some people don't use/need Virtual Folders or IMAP. OK. I just don't understand/agree with the idea that smileys don't take up any time. Smileys appear to be a feature that's here to stay. Let's treat them that way. It doesn't matter if a new feature somehow *developed itself* and literally required ZERO development. Once that feature is introduced and released, it takes up resources. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message filtering.
Chris Weaven wrote: So is anyone successfully using filters to do this? Move mails from their IMAP account to an offline folder? I'd use the Virtual Folder I described earlier and manually move older messages. Not ideal, I know, but I don't know how well the automatic filtering is working with IMAP right now. Since you want to maintain folder structure, one thing you might do with the Virtual Folder solution is to have the view in that VF show the folder column (source folder). You could then sort by folder and move groups of messages to corresponding local folders. Depending on the number of different source folders, this may get tedious. The other option is to create virtual folders for each local folder you want to move to. This would keep the grouping intact. Hope this helps. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
On Mon 7 June 2004, 23:18:42 +1000, Cyrille wrote: But now I happen to have the problem the other way around!!! Lines disappear which should be there. With my several levels of nested QT it seems that one of the QT swallows lines of the others. But I could not determine where it comes from: ...snip... I agree with Roelof's suggestions: * put before the %- in each of the %If statements in the master_new_message QT * include %- at the end of the final %If statement in the master_new_message QT I should have paid more attention to details and included an empty action if false statement in the %If macros in the new message template in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Otherwise as Roelof noted TB! will continue to look for what to do if the condition is false. I don't know enough about how the %If macro handles improperly constructed statements to work out how it interprets the set of statements you have, but I'm sure it causes problems! And if you omit the %- after %If:%_SetLang=PL:%QInclude(new_PL): you will find you have one extra blank line in your Polish messages. I would expect that to fix the problem. If not, provide the content for lang_parameters_FR, and I will set it up on my system and try to debug it. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Key Checksum codes
Hello Martin, Monday, June 7, 2004, 4:14:41 PM, you wrote: MW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MW Hash: SHA1 MW Hello Melissa, MW On 07 June 2004, 13:29 -0700 (07/06/200421:29 local time) Melissa Reese MW [MR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I have to do to get new codes? Do I have to actually purchase TB! again? MR Yes. There was a period of time when users of v1.x could get a MR substantial discount when upgrading to v2.x. The new version has been MR available for a while now, so I think that discount offer is no longer MR in effect. MW There are some offers on at the moment if you're upgrading 1.x... $17.50 MW student, $24.50 personal and $31.50 business. The offer should have MW ended 1 June but it still shows... maybe if you're quick? Thanks Martin. I was the one who wrote the original post and Melissa was kind enough to reply to me. You're right :) the offers are still on the web page and I followed through the purchase procedure just as though they hadn't expired yet. We'll see what happens. Thanks to all. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v2.11.02 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Bayesit! Plugin... once more :(
Hello Arnaud, On 7 Jun 2004 at 20:19:24 +0200 GMT [20:19 CEST] you wrote: AL Is there a way to reset the bayesit! plugin ? It always annoys AL me with this missing files (see below) Delete the working directory and remove the plugin. Then add the plugin again. It should install with default values. But maybe it's enough to delete the corrupted files and let bayesit recreate them? -- Cheers, Andre Träume nicht dein Leben, sondern lebe deinen Traum! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello ken, On 8 Jun 2004 at 17:10:09 -0500 GMT [00:10 CEST] you wrote: kg I thought I read somewhere (release notes?) that the chat feature kg could be used to watch a conversation (?) Could this be used in kg such a way as to create a virtual folder of *threads* to watch? That kg would be pretty cool, I think. kg Currently, trying to do something like that is possible, but would kg involve a lot of extra work (filters and message coloring, etc.) kg I would definitely use something that I could mark a *thread* to kg watch. kg Do I have this all consufed? Kinda. You can create a folder and then right click a message and use Specials - watch replies in and select the chat folder. That has nothing to do with mail chat, though. -- Cheers, Andre It's the heart afraid of breaking that never learns to dance. It is the dream afraid of waking that never takes the chance. It is the one who won't be taken who cannot seem to give. And the soul afraid of dying that never learns to live. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Bayesit! Plugin... once more :(
C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\bayesit\base\spamdict.bye Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost. i once saw the same thing. then i used the following steps to recover and now log doesn't show any error: 1. delete all bayesit database files 2. since training feature is gone, i mark everything in my inbox as not spam and all mail in junk folder as spam. then it works. i think the key is step 2. it seems baysit database won't be created until you marked a certain number of messages. -- Samson, using Agent newsreader Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: charset in replies
a./ the charset should be the same as in the original message or b./ the charset should be the default charset of the account. i personally don't think there is such options in thebat. a seems to be the default behavior if you use the default reply template. in order to do b, i think you can add some %CHARSET=xxx macro in reply template in account properties. -- Samson, using Agent newsreader Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Allie Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): How about a large office setting users are on an LAN and behind a proxy and cannot use the usual chat software. All in the office use TB!. Mail chat would work well there. True, but you could use the same argument to justify an IRC client, a download manager, almost anything. A chat is fundamentally different from email in that it's immediate, while email is a deferred model of communication. One reason I use email is that I have no use whatsoever for chat. Written conversation is s-l-o-w, almost always a waste of time, and is hard to schedule across time zones. In my opinion, a chat feature is bloat, since there's so much (free) chat software already available anyway. It certainly isn't something that will persuade me to pay for an upgrade again. - May I help you? - Hi, I'm looking for a mail client. - We have a great one here, with chat function and reminders. It can even create HTML messages! - Uh, I just want an email client, thanks. What about a web browser? - Try this one, sir, it has an email client, a news client and a chat module, and.. - sigh Best regards, .marek Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 at 12:10:09 AM, ken green wrote: Currently, trying to do something like that is possible, but would involve a lot of extra work (filters and message coloring, etc.) Perhaps you want to support https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003088 Regards, Frank -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can someone tell me what this means?
Hello, After not being able to send a message to RitLabs for support, a member of this list graciously offered to forward my message to them. That was on 6/4. Today I received the following message. Can anyone explain this to me? Does it mean they were trying to contact me or did the message never reach them? The original message was received at Thu, 3 Jun 2004 18:32:40 +0300 from ms-smtp-02-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136] [EMAIL PROTECTED] delayed. Negative RCPT TO reply from argus.ritlabs.com [195.138.101.49]. Host 'argus.ritlabs.com' says: 450 4.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... recipient denied, because no connection with MX 10 'ohmx-2.columbus.rr.com.' [24.28.193.149] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Jack Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone tell me what this means?
Dear Jack, @7-Jun-2004, 22:51 -0400 (08-Jun 03:51 UK time) Jack [J] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The: ... snip J Today I received the following message. Can anyone explain this J to me? Does it mean they were trying to contact me or did the J message never reach them? The message never reached them because ... ... snip J [EMAIL PROTECTED] delayed. Negative RCPT TO reply from J argus.ritlabs.com [195.138.101.49]. Host 'argus.ritlabs.com' says: J 450 4.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... recipient denied, because no J connection with MX 10 'ohmx-2.columbus.rr.com.' [24.28.193.149] for J [EMAIL PROTECTED]. ... the reverse DNS for your domain specified a mail exchange computer called ohmx-2.columbus.rr.com. When the RITlabs mail exchanger attempted to connect back to it to verify its existence, it failed. As a result, your message was rejected. This is a standard method of protecting against connections from spamming servers, which characteristically fail the rDNS connect back. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user SB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpgS9feXA5W8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Sunday, June 6, 2004, Allie Martin wrote: U In that case the person who gets the table can do something that is U _much_ better: (S)he can tell the sender that doing tables like that U isn't necessarily a good thing and show him or her a better alternative. .. the same can apply for the emoticon issue. In fact the emoticon issue is more easily solved. I have tried to figure it out, please tell. The best I could come up with that don't involve any change in how TB works as of 2.11.02 would be to add a footnote If you are using TB and see emoticons, please take the following steps. IMO that is simply not acceptable, by doing so I am implying to the receiver that if you are not using TB you are a wrong-doer. You cannot influence how your messages will be rendered by the receiving client. That's up to the client and the users settings. Which could lead to some very unfortunate misunderstandings that isn't easily resolved even by reading the source of the e-mail. You can minimize problems but you can't totally eliminate them. I can check and I can re-check, yes, but that's about all there is. It would be nice if the program gave me some help with this, though. For example, there could be a spellcheck-like function that looked for smilies. snip It can be disabled permanently or via a toggle switch (right click in the viewer and select 'Smileys'). If the user finds an emoticon strangely placed, as I do at times, (s)he simply toggles off the smileys. I've done this for a few messages already. There's another thing that could be helpful... If you could attach (in lack of any better words) the toggle to the address book. That way I could tell you that I might very well send meaningful text that easily could be shown as emoticons. -- Urban Alice laughed: There's no use trying, she said; one can't believe impossible things. I daresay you haven't had much practice, said the Queen. When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: charset in replies
On Sunday, June 6, 2004 at 11:06:15 PM, Cyrille wrote: b./ the charset should be the default charset of the account. This can break the charcter-encoding in the quoted text. But now I can not find this option any more. Anybody knows where it is? TB! doesn't have such an option. You can set the charset in your reply-template. An ideal mail client would pick the appropriate charset itself. Regards, Frank -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
lost key and checksum codes
After trying to upgrade to v2.11.02 from v2.11 TB started playing up, so I've gone back to v2.11 Trouble is my registration details have been re-set, and TB is telling me I'm on a trial period. I've lost my archived message telling me the new key and key checksum codes for v2.??(I think due to losing archived messages through TB IMAP filtering problems), and my hard copy is on the other side of the world. Is anyone aware how to get these codes back electronically, either from RitLabs or from my hard drive? with thanks, -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
Hello DW, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 13:58:56 -0700 you [DS] typed: [...] DSMessages recovered: 54, damaged parts (part.bin) saved: 0 DSProcessing finished. 1 folders processed DS However, it hasn't repaired the problem. I still can't access any of DS the messages in this folder. DS Any ideas on how to repair this folder's message base? I had a similar problem with one of my IMAP folders and resolved it by simply removing the .tbb file you mentioned. I wouldn't want to delete the .tbb file for a local folder, though. -- Sergey The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Emtply lines
Hi all, The problem i have is that as my thread for message gets longer, the size of the message keeps getting bigger. After about 4 replies, the bat has problems opening it. Its keeps getting bigger cause there are a million blank lines between replies and within the reply text. Is there a solution? Hope there is, cause I am really tired of this. Using bat 2.10. regards, Hasan Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html