Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:31:54 AM, Thomas wrote: TF Hello Allister, TF On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 19:32:37 +1200 GMT (07/06/2004, 14:32 +0700 GMT), TF Allister Jenks wrote: AJ Done. Problem remains. :-( TF Too bad. Does it happen only when purgingcompressing on exit, or TF also when you do it manually? I just noticed when checking this that it seems to be grabbing CPU all the time. Even sitting there doing nothing it is taking all it can. I turned off the icon animation (hey, who knows?), switched XP to classic style interface as I noticed the menu navigator button flickering horribly all the time. Still the same. So it is doing something all the time from startup and then refuses to stop doing whatever it is. Memory usage is fluctuating, but only by a few Mb around 55Mb in total. Wow, just downloaded Process Explorer at this point. Nice! It seems to be telling me that MSVCRT.DLL!endthreadex+0x31 has a high (and fluctuating) CSwitch Delta (which is what?). There's also another line the same, but with none or 1 as the CSD. Also seems to show this first line as consuming all the CPU. Does this mean anything to anyone? We might beat this yet! -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 6:18:38 PM, Allister wrote: AJ Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:31:54 AM, Thomas wrote: TF Hello Allister, TF On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 19:32:37 +1200 GMT (07/06/2004, 14:32 +0700 GMT), TF Allister Jenks wrote: AJ Done. Problem remains. :-( TF Too bad. Does it happen only when purgingcompressing on exit, or TF also when you do it manually? AJ I just noticed when checking this that it seems to be grabbing CPU all AJ the time. Even sitting there doing nothing it is taking all it can. AJ I turned off the icon animation (hey, who knows?), switched XP to AJ classic style interface as I noticed the menu navigator button AJ flickering horribly all the time. AJ Still the same. So it is doing something all the time from startup and AJ then refuses to stop doing whatever it is. Memory usage is fluctuating, AJ but only by a few Mb around 55Mb in total. AJ Wow, just downloaded Process Explorer at this point. Nice! It seems to AJ be telling me that MSVCRT.DLL!endthreadex+0x31 has a high (and AJ fluctuating) CSwitch Delta (which is what?). There's also another line AJ the same, but with none or 1 as the CSD. Also seems to show this first AJ line as consuming all the CPU. AJ Does this mean anything to anyone? We might beat this yet! Also just checked the stack for this line: MSVCRT.DLL!memcpy+0x90 MSVCP60.dll!std::basic_stringchar,std::char_traitschar,std::allocatorchar ::get_allocator+0x58 bayesit.tbp+0x3edb3 That last line worries me. I tried to uninstall BayesIt recently because I am not using it. TB! basically hung when I tried to quit the plugins window and after restarting BayesIt was back. After a couple of attempts at that I just deselected all the check boxes in AntiSpam and left it. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
dueling templates
I was about to send an SOS here but I figured it out. I have specific templates for my work folder, using my work reply-to and leaving out the humpty dumpty, etc. I had the '%attachments' macro in there so if an attachment somehow didn't get to where it needed to go, I and the recipient would at least know I sent it. But...I was noticing that sometimes when I entered the recipients into the To: or CC: field, the 'attachments: ' part of the template would go away. The only exception was when I sent something to myself at my work email address. Figured it out. I had another set of templates for an address book folder with all the work people in it. I used it to filter/direct work related stuff to the 'work' folder. But those templates did not have the %attachment macro in there. That address group does not include myself. So, if I opened a new message from the 'work' folder the 'attached files: (%attachments)' was there. But soon as I entered any recipient from the 'work' address group, the template defaulted back to the one associated with the address group. -- DanG `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' (dropped by The Bat, version 2.11 RC/1) MyMacros 1.10 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Mary, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 12:31:15 AM, you wrote: MW Now I think the problem _must_ be with your TB! installation. The only MW thing I can suggest now is to reinstall TB! over the top of your current MW set up. This won't modify any of your settings (filters, colour groups MW etc.) but may replace something that's gone awry. MW I'll call it a day now... it's 11:30 pm here. MB Thank you so much, once again. I'll try the re-install. Good night. :) Just to let you know that I'm having the same problem. You are not alone :). -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Delete msg using the ticker.
Is it possible? -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: dueling templates
Hallo DanG, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:49:24 -0400GMT (10-6-2004, 8:49 +0200, where I live), you wrote: D But soon as I entered any recipient from the 'work' address group, D the template defaulted back to the one associated with the address D group. As you said, you figured it out. The rule for preference templates is: Personal AB templates AB group templates Folder templates Account templates Generally when a AB template isn't used, while you expected it to work, you're having duplicate AB entries for that specific contact. When you keep these rules in mind, you'll locate template issues easily. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete msg using the ticker.
Howdy nednieuws, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 7:55:12 AM, nednieuws wrotened: nednieuws Is it possible? Yes it is possible to delete messages in the ticker. I personally like to use the tried and tested delete key ;oÞ. This seem to refresh the ticker, so some new messages may appear -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 It is not known with what weapon World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete msg using the ticker.
Hello Ben, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 9:24:23 AM, you wrote: BA Yes it is possible to delete messages in the ticker. I personally BA like to use the tried and tested delete key ;oÞ. This seem to refresh BA the ticker, so some new messages may appear That's a funky key :). If there are multiple messages scrolling by, how do I know which message gets deleted if when I press the delete key? -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete msg using the ticker.
Hello Ben, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 9:36:53 AM, you wrote: nc Hello Ben, nc Thursday, June 10, 2004, 9:24:23 AM, you wrote: BA Yes it is possible to delete messages in the ticker. I personally BA like to use the tried and tested delete key ;oÞ. This seem to refresh BA the ticker, so some new messages may appear nc If there are multiple messages scrolling by, how do I know which nc message gets deleted if when I press the delete key? Just tried it and it doesn't work for me. But when the ticker flies by, there's no ticker button on the task bar showing it's the active application. Not even when I click on the ticker. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subfolders using main folder properties...
Hæ! OK, I created a test-VF and I am wondering if the VF can be set to automatically remove old messages after a few days (Keep messages in base for x days). I tried to use the settings under folder properties, but they do not seem to purge the specific messages from the parent folder. Anybody tried this, too? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v2.11.03 without BayesIt on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Delete msg using the ticker.
Howdy nednieuws, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 8:50:15 AM, nednieuws wrotened: nednieuws Just tried it and it doesn't work for me. But when the ticker flies nednieuws by, there's no ticker button on the task bar showing it's the active nednieuws application. Not even when I click on the ticker. you need to double click to open the ticker... then you can use the funky delete key -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me, either. Just leave me alone. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP sent-mail folder
I just got IMAP enabled, and I wanted to have my sent-messages be stored on the server. If I check the Sent Mail box in the mail management option dialog, and pick the sent-mail folder on my IMAP server, it causes outgoing messages to hang instead of sending. It sits there in the sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue state indefinitely. If I leave the Sent Mail box unchecked, messages get sent within about 1 second. Is there a way to get a more verbose log of what TB is doing here? I can't tell if it's a configuration problem on my end or on the server side since it just seems to be sitting there without giving any info as to why. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Regards, Jake Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: extra lines
Hi Roelof, You might try to send yourself a message, reply to it, reply again and compare the messages you're receiving with those that you actually sent. Good idea, let me try this. I hope the problem is isolated. -- Hasan Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Your attachments
Hello Urban, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 2:15:19 PM, you wrote: U Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Over here the attachments are called Part.txt. Should I be worried? U JSL seems to use TB v1.61 U It's been a while, but I think TB1.6x showed PGP/MIME sigs as msg.att Thanks Urban. As you can see, I've since upgraded. The aforementioned attachments now appear as 'PART.TXT', -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v2.11.02 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete msg using the ticker.
Hello Ben, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 10:46:48 AM, you wrote: BA Thursday, June 10, 2004, 8:50:15 AM, nednieuws wrotened: nednieuws Just tried it and it doesn't work for me. But when the ticker flies nednieuws by, there's no ticker button on the task nednieuws bar showing it's the active nednieuws application. Not even when I click on the ticker. BA you need to double click to open the ticker... then you can use the BA funky delete key So there is no way to do it directly, i.e. without reading it. E.g., right click and select delete. It would be nice if you could immediately discard is if the subject contains Pre...sc1p.t1on d.rug s, ya know? -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP sent-mail folder
Jacob Cohen, [JC] wrote: I just got IMAP enabled, and I wanted to have my sent-messages be stored on the server. If I check the Sent Mail box in the mail management option dialog, and pick the sent-mail folder on my IMAP server, it causes outgoing messages to hang instead of sending. Where is your Outbox? Is it local or server side? If it's server side, then make it local. If it's local then I'm not sure what's happening for you since I have a server side Sent folder that works well. Usually the message is sent and then the message a copy is uploaded to the IMAP Sent folder. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpPuN6Anw74d.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
Allister Jenks, [AJ] wrote: That last line worries me. I tried to uninstall BayesIt recently because I am not using it. TB! basically hung when I tried to quit the plugins window and after restarting BayesIt was back. Seems like the Bayesit plugin is the culprit. The Bayesit plugin directory should be in the TB! installation directory. Have you tried moving that directory to another location after exiting TB! and then restarting TB!? -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpM7bXHkb1wm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Correcting receive dates - is this possible?
The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date was set back a few years. A whole load of messages have been downloaded with a receive date set to a few years back. This is highly incovenient for message managenment purposes. Is there anyway from within The Bat that I can change these dates (using an appropriate offset)? Failing this, is there an obvious and safe way to do this to the files outside of The Bat? Stuart Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Your attachments
Dear Jack, @10-Jun-2004, 05:26 -0500 (10-Jun 11:26 UK time) Jack S. LaRosa [JSL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Urban: Over here the attachments are called Part.txt. Should I be worried? U JSL seems to use TB v1.61 U It's been a while, but I think TB1.6x showed PGP/MIME sigs as msg.att JSL Thanks Urban. As you can see, I've since upgraded. The aforementioned JSL attachments now appear as 'PART.TXT', Not quite :-) . The attachments now appear as ? icons. The PART.TXT attachment is actually the list footer. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpf128FLZw7E.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
Howdy Robin, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 12:45:17 AM, Robin wrotened: Robin The problem is that Ben _doesn't_ sort by time received, he sorts by Robin subject. Robin I usually sort by time (actually time created rather than time received) Robin and have old messages at the top and new messages at the bottom. However Robin when I tried sorting by subject I was able to duplicate what Ben sees - Robin within each thread the messages are sorted in reverse chronological Robin order: new messages at the top and older ones below that. Robin I suspect there is no way around that. There is a way. If you sort by subject then hold ctrl and click on received it sorts the list by subject and received date. What i was wondering was if there is a way to do this automatically. I dont think there is though so hey -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Palm
Hi folks, I am about to buy a Palm Pilot to be a little more organized :) Do you know, if I can sync a) my mails b) my contacts c) my appointments to TB! ? Thanks Viele Grüße Michael Wagner -- www.callacd.com - Ihr persönlicher Downloadservice Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ~~( __ _o Was Thu, 10 Jun 2004, at 12:30:52 +0100, @ @ when Stuart Moore wrote: The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date was set back a few years. A whole load of messages have been downloaded with a receive date set to a few years back. This is highly incovenient for message managenment purposes. Is there anyway from within The Bat that I can change these dates (using an appropriate offset)? Failing this, is there an obvious and safe way to do this to the files outside of The Bat? I don't know from within Bat, but outside of it it should be possible, but be careful. You could edit .tbb files and replace mentioned year of receiving (assuming that day/month/time is correct). As to other files, it can be possible with a UNIX utility called touch, since there is a version which works under Windows as well. But, if you decide, slowly and be careful; try to make backups first. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast Antispam | 5 spam letters in last 34 h. o | 234 non-spam letters in last 34 h. y | By BayesIt! 0.5.5 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFAyF/r9q62QPd3XuIRAhrGAJ0ZUVoKrtMWaUBspi46cKDibGiKcwCfZCVr sOCFSCjABeMnGZ1tGF783So= =an2R -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Charles! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 1:53 AM, you wrote: MW Now I think the problem _must_ be with your TB! installation. The only MW thing I can suggest now is to reinstall TB! over the top of your current MW set up. This won't modify any of your settings (filters, colour groups MW etc.) but may replace something that's gone awry. snip nc Just to let you know that I'm having the same problem. You are not nc alone :). Let's try to figure it out, then! :) Thanks for writing! Further information on what's happening here: Last night I re-downloaded v. 2.11.02 and used the second download to re-install The Bat! That did not help. The icons still did not respond. My cousin, who uses a Mac machine, had sent me 2 scans of old marriage certificates and 4 scans of old family photos as 6 separate attachments to 6 separate messages. She scanned them as .tif format and converted to .jpg before sending. Those attachments still will not open unless saved to Desktop and all attachments--whether MS Word Documents or jpeg images--I had received prior to her sending the 6 attachments will also still not open. Last night my sister, whose OS is Win98SE, sent me a scanned document as a .jpg image. It opens quite normally with a double-click on the icon or a select of the right-click menu choice Open. This morning I find 2 more messages from my sister with scanned documents attached, 1) as .jpg image and 2) as MS Word Document attachment. These also open normally. She sent those at 4:30 a.m. my time and I have just asked her to send me a photo as a .jpg image to completely confirm that all attachments open normally that have been sent subsequent to the Mac attachments disaster. I'll have to wait until she checks her mail again for that. My settings are all the same both as I check the prior-to-the-Mac- messages and those subsequent to the Mac: the default TB! Protection fields (I erased those fields as an experiment, but it did not help, so I put them back, having saved them in SmartBat notepad) are in place. And I am using TB!'s internal viewer. But changing to the external viewer does not change the behavior of the non-responding icons. They just sit there and do nothing when double-clicked or requested to open. No dialogue window, nothing. So I put the setting back to internal viewer, which I prefer because I think that is safer. My suspicion is that something in the transmission from the Macintosh machine corrupted all my saved attachments. But I'm not technologically knowledgeable enough to know whether that is a feasible theory. I should add for clarity, what I put in my original query: This all began while I was still using TB! v. 2.00.6. I downloaded v. 2.11.02 hoping to cure the problem. That, of course, did not help, except that I can now see smileys at will. g Nor does reverting XP Home to an earlier restore point fix the non-responding icons. Last night I did a complete deep scan with my anti-virus program F-Secure and it came up clean. Also, I did a complete deep scan with my anti-trojan program TDS-3 and no trojans or suspicious files were found. I did this just in case my cousin had inadvertently sent me some malware. Also, I scanned with another anti-trojan program, Trojan Remover, which scan found no malware. AdAware 6.0 also says my machine is clean. So that's all my latest info. What do you think? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
Hello Dan, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:10:14 -0400 GMT (09/06/2004, 20:10 +0700 GMT), Dan Grunberg wrote: DG For what it's worth, this works for me: DG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | in the Kludges | Yes The only condition under which this will not work is when you have seperate folders for mailing lists, and a message is cross-posted to two lists. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nach Ansicht des Sachverstaendigen durfte der Verlust zwischen 250.000 und einer Viertelmillion liegen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter by thread automatically
Hello Roelof, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 00:16:34 +0200 GMT (10/06/2004, 05:16 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: MF I would like to be able to automatically thread a child message to wherever MF its parent message may be in my message base. Is this possible in general? RO No this isn't possible, neither for incoming nor outgoing messages. I haven't tried it, but I wonder whether the Chat folders (watch thread) would do this, i.e. work across folders. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Umfriend: Sexual relationship; this is Dale, my ... um ...friend. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subjects
Hello ARXEO, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 15:31:56 +0400 GMT (09/06/2004, 18:31 +0700 GMT), ARXEO wrote: A ...) , A Subjects Come again? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If you're born again, do you have two bellybuttons? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move Attachment Pane in Editor
Hello Mike, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:07:45 -0700 GMT (10/06/2004, 09:07 +0700 GMT), Mike Dillinger wrote: MD Can you move the attachment pane in editing mode? I see how to move it MD while viewing, but not editing. I can't find it either. Make a wish? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The difference between a king and a president is that a king is the son of his father but a president is not. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Hello Urban, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:13:01 +0200 GMT (10/06/2004, 00:13 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo %TFName %Cursor %Quotes U Advocating top-posting now, are we? (tsk tsk) U SCNR No, I'm not. But my cursor is indeed set before the quotes, and I delete or not and write my replies while I go along. U snippeti-do-da :-Þ Help / Index / Macros / Full alphabetic list / Dash macro. No! It's gone! :-( U It's there, the first one, before ABnnnPPP. Ah - yes. I was just struck with blindness yesterday. Also, the Help window doesn't scroll with the scroll wheel. :-( U It does with my Microsoft thingie. Not with my Creative (== noname) thingy, which works with everything else. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Was ist ein Optimist ? - Jemand der das eine Fernsehprogramm langweilig findet und auf das andere umschaltet! Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello Urban, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 00:55:56 +0200 GMT (10/06/2004, 05:55 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: U There's another thing that could be helpful... If you could attach (in U lack of any better words) the toggle to the address book. That way I U could tell you that I might very well send meaningful text that easily U could be shown as emoticons. That's a good idea. U I haven't figured the bugtracker wishlist out yet. Feel free to add it U if you want to. Not me. I'm not using the smiley icons at all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Also too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
Hello DW, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 12:56:32 -0700 GMT (10/06/2004, 02:56 +0700 GMT), DW Susan wrote: DS Yes, it is. The .TBB file is 528k and the inbox shows all the DS messages as being in there. However, if I click on any of those DS messages I get the error message that the message base needs to be DS repaired. Repairing it, though, doesn't make a difference -- I still DS can't access the messages. Can you mark all messages in the message list? If so, do that, and export them all. Tools / Export messages / .MSG (my choice; you might choose another format). Delete the .tbb while TB is closed. Reopen TB and import all the exported messages. See whether it helps. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Hilfe mein Nachbar wohnt neben mir! * Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move Attachment Pane in Editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mike, On 10 June 2004, 19:07 -0700 (10/06/200403:07 local time) Mike Dillinger [MD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MD Can you move the attachment pane in editing mode? I see how to move it MD while viewing, but not editing. I looked for this some time ago. It's not there. :-( I'd support a wish. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMiM3jknq5PWREYNEQKFHACgqAo1buUpPGxWICzbHCLSCTcBqM0An1OX VhPCYaeYABZcMErTbP5PXur5 =2hjp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP sent-mail folder
stored on the server. If I check the Sent Mail box in the mail management option dialog, and pick the sent-mail folder on my IMAP server, it causes outgoing messages to hang instead of sending. Where is your Outbox? Is it local or server side? It is local. The only box I'm checking is Sent Mail. I think I'll install Mozilla somewhere and try from that so I can see if it's my client configuration or something on the server end. -- Regards, Jake Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?
Hi Stuart, on Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:30:52 +0100GMT, you wrote: SM The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date SM was set back a few years. A whole load of messages have been SM downloaded with a receive date set to a few years back. This is SM highly incovenient for message managenment purposes. Is there SM anyway from within The Bat that I can change these dates (using an SM appropriate offset)? Failing this, is there an obvious and safe SM way to do this to the files outside of The Bat? I believe that you can do it with Total Commander. It is shareware, so try to get it done during the trial period. You might want to buy it anyhow... ;-) http://www.ghisler.com -- Cheers Peter Tagline dispenser temporarily out of order. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Thursday, 10 Jun 2004 08:43 [-0500] Mary Bull wrote: .. MB But changing to the external viewer does not change the behavior of MB the non-responding icons. They just sit there and do nothing when MB double-clicked or requested to open. No dialogue window, nothing. So I MB put the setting back to internal viewer, which I prefer because I MB think that is safer. .. MB I should add for clarity, what I put in my original query: This all MB began while I was still using TB! v. 2.00.6. I downloaded v. 2.11.02 MB hoping to cure the problem. That, of course, did not help, except that MB I can now see smileys at will. g Nor does reverting XP Home to an MB earlier restore point fix the non-responding icons. .. heh, brainstorm mode on ;) I know a similar TB! behavior pattern - TB! before starting any viewer (even internal one) saves attachment in a folder %TEMP%\bat\, and the problem is that TB! doesn't try chaging folder name, nor showing any error message if this folder (or a file in this folder) cannot be created for some reason. So just as in your case - it does nothing on dbl-click. But I did that experement intentionally, so I don't know how the %TEMP% folder could be suddenly trashed the same way. PS: Mostly for developers - probably same effect was also reported @ nobat: http://www.forum.nobat.ru/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=2346 ~translated: Topic: cannot start attached files (v1.62r) -- / xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML mail forward reply
If I forward HTML mail or reply to it, how do I get the original message body to stay in HTML format? As is, it gets converted to plain text. Thanks - jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Maxim! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 2:16 PM, you wrote: MB ... changing to the external viewer does not change the behavior of MB the non-responding icons. They just sit there and do nothing when MB double-clicked or requested to open. . MR .. MR heh, brainstorm mode on ;) MR I know a similar TB! behavior pattern - TB! before starting any viewer MR (even internal one) saves attachment in a folder %TEMP%\bat\, and the MR problem is that TB! doesn't try chaging folder name, nor showing any error MR message if this folder (or a file in this folder) cannot be created for MR some reason. So just as in your case - it does nothing on dbl-click. So now I need to find the path to that folder. MR But I did that experement intentionally, so I don't know how the %TEMP% MR folder could be suddenly trashed the same way. Perhaps something in a downloaded attachment created in a different operating system from Windows, namely, Apple Macintosh. That is the one thing that stays constant--in everything I've tried. Ah! Bright idea. hehe I shall delete those 6 attachments that came from the Macintosh machine. MR PS: Mostly for developers - probably same effect was also reported @ nobat: MR http://www.forum.nobat.ru/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=2346 MR ~translated: Topic: cannot start attached files (v1.62r) I thank you very much. I'll report back what I find. 1) Whether I can find the path to the %TEMP%\bat\ folder. And 2) whether a simple deletion of the attachments in the 6 messages from the Macintosh machine repairs the break in the other attachments. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Repair Message Base doesn't work
MW Sergey- MW Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 2:36:06 PM, you wrote: SK I can only suggest trying The Bat! Message Recovery tool: SK http://savenger.com/download/tbrec.rar. Hello Mark, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 2:51:48 PM, you wrote: MW And short of that, try renaming a copy of the .tbb file to .uue, open MW it with WinZip, and see what comes up. Thank you! Thank you! It worked opening it as a .UUE file! I had to change all the filenames from .TXT to .EML first, but then when I imported them they all showed up! Thank you, everyone, for all your suggestions! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:09 PM, you wrote: MB Hello Maxim! MB On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 2:16 PM, you wrote: MR heh, brainstorm mode on ;) MB :) MR I know a similar TB! behavior pattern - TB! before starting any viewer MR (even internal one) saves attachment in a folder %TEMP%\bat\, and the MR problem is that TB! doesn't try chaging folder name, nor showing any error MR message if this folder (or a file in this folder) cannot be created for MR some reason. So just as in your case - it does nothing on dbl-click. MB I could not find %TEMP%\bat\ using Windows Explorer. under your user profile ( Win XP ) you will probably find these bat.tmp files, mine are HERE: C:\Documents and Settings\your_logon_name\Local Settings\Temp\* -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0424-2 (09.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: tbudl list subjects
Hallo Jacob, On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:51:10 -0700GMT (10-6-2004, 21:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JC I browsed through the mailman options page but I didn't see a way to JC enable it there, so I'm thinking I might be able to have TB rewrite JC the subject line when the messages arrive. TB can't alter messages that you're receiving and that includes the headers, so what you want isn't possible with TB. You'd need a third party tool to achieve what you want. Just out of curiosity. Why would you like something like that? -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: tbudl list subjects
TB can't alter messages that you're receiving and that includes the headers, so what you want isn't possible with TB. You'd need a third party tool to achieve what you want. Just out of curiosity. Why would you like something like that? I'm accustomed to mailing lists that insert that string in their subject lines. For example, my inbox might look like. From Subject Received ___ John Smith [ros-general] ReactOS release 1.0... 12:36 PM Ellen Chang [Moin-devel] unicode on windows s... 11:47 AM Dr. Fred Mbogo Re: [ros-general] upcoming releas... 11:42 AM John Smith [ros-general] upcoming release fo... 11:39 AM It makes it easier to tell from the subject line what mailing list a particular message belongs to. It's just my preference to have it there I suppose. Barring a method to do this in TB I'll just have to get used to not having it, or perhaps do some sort of inbound/outbound message subject rewriting on my mail server. -- Regards, Jake Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello, I have paid to get that new version 2.0 of the bat and since then I keep having problems... many little bugs which annoy me. So yesterday I have decided to update to version 2.11.02. But today I have discovered that all my new mails just disappear when I get them. It seem that it downloads the new mails, but then I can't find them anywhere!!! Is it totally lost? I was waiting for very important mails today... I'm really angry. I have made many tests from different accounts to make sure the servers are working well and all may tests have been downloaded but lost by the bat. I check the same with outlook express, and things work perfectly. Later I have disabled that plugin named BayesIt! but nothing happened. I have closed and reopened the bat with no BayesIt pluging and then things seem to work again... What the hell is wrong? When the hell are todays and yesterdays mails? Thanks for help!!! I want my lost mails back... I don't know what that BayesIt is I have never configured it, and be sure I have tried to find my mails in every folder I have even those for junk mails. NOTHING!!! Please help. -- Alexandre Vialle Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Paul! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 3:23 PM, you wrote: MB I could not find %TEMP%\bat\ using Windows Explorer. PC under your user profile ( Win XP ) you will probably find these bat.tmp PC files, mine are HERE: PC C:\Documents and Settings\your_logon_name\Local Settings\Temp\* Thanks, Paul. That's where they were. 1) I found 88 separate bat.tmp listings. Every one of them contained 0 bytes. The separate listing at the top of these, bat, contained 32 KB but could not be opened (Windows does not know what to use etc.). I very much fear that all attachments from the past year and a half are gone beyond retrieval. 2) What I don't know is whether the attachments sent from the Macintosh machine caused this. 3) The good news is that almost everything important had already been copied to My Documents, My Pictures, Adobe Photo Deluxe 2, or Gimp. And a lot had been printed out in paper copies. 4) My opinion of TB! v. 2.11.02 is that it is just as wonderful as the TB! lists, and that's saying a lot! 5) Thanks a million!! :42: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP sent-mail folder
Allie, On 10-06-2004 12:39, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM Where is your Outbox? Is it local or server side? AM If it's server side, then make it local. Having just begun working with IMAP/Exchange again with the same difficulties with Outbox/Sent mail as previously I assume that you by this mean that IMAP outgoing does not work properly at your end either? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.11.03 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:56 PM, you wrote: PC C:\Documents and Settings\your_logon_name\Local Settings\Temp\* MB Thanks, Paul. That's where they were. no problem! MB 1) I found 88 separate bat.tmp listings. Every one of them contained 0 MB bytes. The separate listing at the top of these, bat, contained 32 KB MB but could not be opened (Windows does not know what to use etc.). I MB very much fear that all attachments from the past year and a half are MB gone beyond retrieval. you have your setup to save attachments to a separate folder? and the folder is empty? MB 2) What I don't know is whether the attachments sent from the MB Macintosh machine caused this. doubt it. MB 3) The good news is that almost everything important had already been MB copied to My Documents, My Pictures, Adobe Photo Deluxe 2, or Gimp. MB And a lot had been printed out in paper copies. backups...backups...backups:) I use secondcopy to copy my BAT folders to another folder, then I save those to CD's. MB 4) My opinion of TB! v. 2.11.02 is that it is just as wonderful as the MB TB! lists, and that's saying a lot! yes it is!! now get the 2.11.03 !! MB 5) Thanks a million!! :42: a, love those emoticons! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0424-2 (09.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
spell checker dictionaries
Hello list, I have the International pack installed and my Spell Checker menu offers me the following SSCE dictionaries: American English, British English, Danish, Finnish, French, German (Old spelling), German (New spelling), Italian, Norwegian (Bokmal), Portuguese (Brazilian), Portuguese (Iberian), Spanish, Swedish In the helpfile (in the description of the %Language macro) much more spell checker languages are mentioned. In addition to those above they say that there is: Australian English, Catalan, Czech, French Canadian, Norwegian (Nynorsk) Dutch, Polish, Russian, Hungarian I have three questions about this: 1) Do these other languages exist as SSCE spell checker or only as CSAPI (Windows Office spell checker recognized by TB) 2) If they exist, where can I get them from? 3) Does anybody know how TB detects the CSAPI dictionaries, and what might be the reason that TB does not detect a CSAPI dictionary which is obviously installed, while all other installed CSAPI dictionary are detected? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
On Thu 10 June 2004, 22:17:34 +1000, Ben Allen wrote: Robin The problem is that Ben _doesn't_ sort by time received, he sorts by Robin subject. Robin I usually sort by time (actually time created rather than time received) Robin and have old messages at the top and new messages at the bottom. However Robin when I tried sorting by subject I was able to duplicate what Ben sees - Robin within each thread the messages are sorted in reverse chronological Robin order: new messages at the top and older ones below that. Robin I suspect there is no way around that. There is a way. If you sort by subject then hold ctrl and click on received it sorts the list by subject and received date. I didn't realise that! How did you find out? Trial and error, or is it actually in the help file somewhere? What i was wondering was if there is a way to do this automatically. I dont think there is though so hey Actually, I have experimented, and I think you can. If you create a new view mode that is sorted by subject and apply it to the folder, then use the CTRL-click method to add the second sort to that, it will remember that. Anytime you apply that view mode to another folder - voila, it works! Unfortunately it does forget the second sort if you ever go into manage view modes and edit this particular one - so the moral is, once you have set it up, don't try to edit it. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Paul! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 4:14 PM, you wrote: PC you have your setup to save attachments to a separate folder? and the PC folder is empty? No, until yesterday I had chosen keep attachments with message body. Last night I changed it to separate directory. (In Account/Properties/Files and Directories.) That may be what let me get the 4 .jpgs without problems this morning. They are now in Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\m.bull\ATTACH 88 bat.tmp files in my profile [...] \TEMP are each one empty. I checked the Properties on every one of them. MB 2) What I don't know is whether the attachments sent from the MB Macintosh machine caused this. PC doubt it. So, gremlins. Or the Evil Tribble Twin. :) MB 3) The good news is that almost everything important had already been MB copied to My Documents, My Pictures, Adobe Photo Deluxe 2, or Gimp. MB And a lot had been printed out in paper copies. PC backups...backups...backups:) I use secondcopy to copy my BAT folders to PC another folder, then I save those to CD's. Well, I've been saying to you for two weeks that I was going to learn to use the Nero that's on my machine. Didn't yet. But I do have back-ups on my hard drive. And I have a Bat backup from Tools that I overwrite every day, but I save it by the month. So I could retrieve the May folder--the only thing is, that a Bat backup restore would do away with all of June. I don't want just yet to do that. I couldn't understand how to put Marck's batch backup into my system. And, like with Nero, I just procrastinated getting Second Copy that was recommended on that thread. MB 4) My opinion of TB! v. 2.11.02 is that it is just as wonderful as the MB TB! lists, and that's saying a lot! PC yes it is!! now get the 2.11.03 !! But I would have to become a Beta tester to do that! I'm really not competent to be a Beta tester!! MB 5) Thanks a million!! :42: PC a, love those emoticons! :h2g2: Maybe my attachment files are Lost in Space! No, different show. :) Anyway, thanks to you and to everyone! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting lost!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Alexandre, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 2:45:45 PM, you wrote: Alexandre I don't know what that BayesIt is I have never configured Alexandre it, and be sure I have tried to find my mails in every Alexandre folder I have even those for junk mails. NOTHING!!! First, look at the status bar at the bottom of TB. It'll tell you where it moved all the messages to. Once you've figured that one out, I'd start looking at filters to make sure you don't have an errant filter moving / deleting your messages. Thirdly, I'd look and see if you have a selective download filter somewhere. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: He who hesitates too long must change his underwear. Using The Bat! 2.11.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Hello Robin, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:52:31 PM, you wrote: There seems to be a conflict between different QT or a bug with the %LANGUAGE macro. I did not narrow down yet what might be the reason. I think I will start a new thread with this question. RA Good idea! RA When I am trying to debug QTs, I find it useful to put temporary RA statements in that print out in the message to allow me to follow what is RA happening. Another question about the SetLanguage QT: What exactly does the QT when I reply to a sender which is *not* in my AB? To put temporary statements does not work in this case, because TB crashes before any output is generated. -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
%language macro crashes TB
Hello list, I have a strange problem with the %language macro in reply templates. I have a chain of QTs working which detect the language to use and choose according to that the templates in the right languages for new messages and replies. These QTs set also the charset and the %LANGUAGE for the spell checking. This is explained in details in the thread with the subject multi-language templates, (if you read mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you will get an overview). The funny thing is now that it works fine for new messages and for many replies. But when replying to certain messages, TB crashes. TB opens the editor window as if it were about to generate the text for my reply, but before the generated text shows up, TB gets frozen with a white, empty editor screen; and the only way out is to kill TB. It *seems* that this is the case whenever I try to reply to messages where the language of the reply should be a language for which I use CSAPI dictionaries. But it is not as simple as this. It is not simply a problem with my CSAPI dictionaries. When I select them manually in the menus the CSAPIs work fine. AND (now it becomes strange): if I create I simple account template for replies (instead of using my chain of QTs) where I set %language=CSAPI AM (or any other CSAPI) it works *without* problems, too!!! This means that the problem must be somehow in the combination of CSAPIs and this particular chain of QTs (it can't be the QTs alone and it can't be the CSAPIs alone). Who as some ideas? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: tbudl list subjects
Dear Jacob, @10-Jun-2004, 13:43 -0700 (10-Jun 21:43 UK time) Jacob Cohen [JC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Roelof: Just out of curiosity. Why would you like something like that? JC I'm accustomed to mailing lists that insert that string in their JC subject lines. For example, my inbox might look like. ... snip We made the deliberate choice *not* to do this. It cramps the available space for subject content and, wen a long thread starts cascading, it's a pleasure not to have it wasting space. TB is *the* client for sorting and filtering messages. For instance, you can assign an individual colour to messages from different lists very easily. TBUDL messages have many indicators in the message headers to say they're from the list. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpEGYHrODxXF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mailbox checking
C2 In the interest of minimizing the load on my ISP, is there a way to C2 override or work around the mailbox checking settings in Account C2 Properties based on the time of day? RO In account properties you have to uncheck 'Periodical checking' RO Go to TB's scheduler RO (Tools - Scheduler) RO Create a new task in 'repeating tasks' RO (In the field with tasks: right mouse button - new) RO Set as action 'send check mail' RO Recurrence: 1 day RO Advanced: Set the time scheme you'd like to use RO Note: In the past the scheduler was a tad buggy and as I've never used RO it for real tasks, I don't know how it functions now. If somehow TB's RO scheduler fails to produce, you could use Windows's Scheduler to RO achieve the same. RO Set the command to execute as path\thebat.exe /check* RO In the advanced properties of the task go to 'scheme' go to the next RO level of advanced and you can insert a scheme as you discribed. RO For myself I'd try TB's scheduler first, but YMMV Thanks for the suggestion. The Scheduler is very flexible and looked like the ideal solution. Unfortunately, it fails periodically after sending outgoing mail. The Scheduler simply stops functioning. Oh well. I guess the bugs still have not been worked out of it. -- Code 2 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.11 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Outside a second-hand store: We exchange anything - bicycles, washing machines etc. Why not bring your wife along and get a wonderful bargain. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: tbudl list subjects
assign an individual colour to messages from different lists very That's a good idea. I suppose what I'm really after here is a visual indication that this is from a particular mailing list. Assigning a color is reasonable since only a handful of the mailing lists to which I am subscribed omit the subject tag. Thanks. -- Regards, Jake Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?
Hello Stuart, The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date was set back a few years. A whole load of messages have been downloaded with a receive date set to a few years back. This is highly incovenient for message managenment purposes. Is there anyway from within The Bat that I can change these dates (using an appropriate offset)? Failing this, is there an obvious and safe way to do this to the files outside of The Bat? You may Tools/Export theses messages as .MSG, then delete them from whatever folder you have them in and then do a Tools/import. The received date and time will be that of when you do the import. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
Howdy Robin, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 10:26:34 PM, Robin wrotened: There is a way. If you sort by subject then hold ctrl and click on received it sorts the list by subject and received date. Robin I didn't realise that! How did you find out? Trial and error, or is it Robin actually in the help file somewhere? No, i think i learnt it from Databases... Some allow you to do that exact thing if you hold down ctrl and click... so as a mailbase is just a database i guess i thought i would try and i did like the result.. hence this thread. What i was wondering was if there is a way to do this automatically. I dont think there is though so hey Robin Actually, I have experimented, and I think you can. If you create a new Robin view mode that is sorted by subject and apply it to the folder, then use Robin the CTRL-click method to add the second sort to that, it will remember Robin that. Anytime you apply that view mode to another folder - voila, it Robin works! Robin Unfortunately it does forget the second sort if you ever go into manage Robin view modes and edit this particular one - so the moral is, once you have Robin set it up, don't try to edit it. A good moral, if it works dont touch it. Thanks to all -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There is a light side, a dark side, and then there's my side, we kill people ten times faster and with less reason. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Fri 11 June 2004, 6:09:14 +1000, Mary Bull wrote: I am going to study the Windows XP Home Help site and see if I can find out how to locate the path for %TEMP%\bat\ Open a command prompt window (Start - Run - type in cmd and press enter) then at the command prompt type set (without quotes) and press enter. That will show you all the environment variables including TEMP. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Fri 11 June 2004, 6:56:20 +1000, Mary Bull wrote: 1) I found 88 separate bat.tmp listings. Every one of them contained 0 bytes. The separate listing at the top of these, bat, contained 32 KB but could not be opened (Windows does not know what to use etc.). I very much fear that all attachments from the past year and a half are gone beyond retrieval. Files in the temp directory that are not actually in use can safely be deleted. Those that are actually in use won't go if you try to delete them. It is not a bad idea to periodically clean up the temp directory. Files often get left there when applications do not close cleanly. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Palm
Hello rich, Thursday, June 10, 2004, 3:16:28 PM, you wrote: rg Is that so? The TB! AB never compresses? Yep! Try it. You could export all of your addresses, delete them all from the AB, and the file size remains the same. Then import all the addresses you just exported and the AB will double in size. -- Best regards, Steve I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns TB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
On Fri 11 June 2004, 7:28:12 +1000, Mary Bull wrote: PC you have your setup to save attachments to a separate folder? and the PC folder is empty? No, until yesterday I had chosen keep attachments with message body. Last night I changed it to separate directory. (In Account/Properties/Files and Directories.) Then the fact that you can't see them in a separate directory or folder is not a problem. They should still all be in the original email message. That may be what let me get the 4 .jpgs without problems this morning. They are now in Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\m.bull\ATTACH Sounds about right. 88 bat.tmp files in my profile [...] \TEMP are each one empty. I checked the Properties on every one of them. As in the previous email I sent, you can safely delete these unless they have today's date, in which case they may be in use. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?
On Thu 10 June 2004, 21:30:52 +1000, Stuart Moore wrote: The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date was set back a few years. A whole load of messages have been downloaded with a receive date set to a few years back. This is highly incovenient for message managenment purposes. Is there anyway from within The Bat that I can change these dates (using an appropriate offset)? Failing this, is there an obvious and safe way to do this to the files outside of The Bat? The way to do it is to export those affected messages into a UNIX mailbox, and edit that with a text editor. The structure of the UNIX mailbox is very simple and it should be obvious what needs to be changed when you open it. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading across folders
On Fri 11 June 2004, 9:10:16 +1000, Rich Gregory wrote: Is there a way I can select the mssg I replied to and tell it to show me the thread? Bear in mind the reply is in my sent mail folder! Highlight the message and press CTRL-BACKSPACE. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spell checker dictionaries
On Fri 11 June 2004, 7:15:26 +1000, Cyrille wrote: 3) Does anybody know how TB detects the CSAPI dictionaries, and what might be the reason that TB does not detect a CSAPI dictionary which is obviously installed, while all other installed CSAPI dictionary are detected? Good question! I have MS Office installed, with dictionaries, but TB! doesn't detect _any_ CSAPI dictionaries. I would love to know the answer. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing emails
On Fri 11 June 2004, 1:52:02 +1000, Rich Gregory wrote: I have been using a macro (called by SHIFT-CTRL-ALT-E and which, by the way, I cannot find in my shortcuts editor!) It is probably a filter that does the work, and you can see the shortcut by editing the filter and looking on the options tab. Now, not only does the 4-key shortcut do the above but now it also brings up a quick-search box! !? Of course, I'd rather not have this happen. Any input? No idea, sorry. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
On Fri 11 June 2004, 7:46:27 +1000, Cyrille wrote: Another question about the SetLanguage QT: What exactly does the QT when I reply to a sender which is *not* in my AB? I looked back through this thread, and I think the answer is that it uses a default of setting the language to AM. You could confirm this by putting a statement Language=%_SetLang at some appropriate point in your QTs -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: tbudl list subjects
On Fri 11 June 2004, 6:43:39 +1000, Jacob Cohen wrote: Barring a method to do this in TB I'll just have to get used to not having it, or perhaps do some sort of inbound/outbound message subject rewriting on my mail server. If you _really_ want to do it, you could use XRay (www.xrayapp.com) as the tool. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Thursday, June 10, 2004, Mary Bull wrote: 88 bat.tmp files in my profile [...] \TEMP are each one empty. I checked the Properties on every one of them. snip :h2g2: Maybe my attachment files are Lost in Space! No, different show. :) But your old attachments still are working if you copy them to the desktop? It could very well be those empty .tmp files that are messing things up for you. Try closing TB, then move the .tmp-files to another folder, they normally are safe to delete but just in case... It may happen that Windows says that some of the files are being used and can't be moved, that's normal, just click OK. Then open TB again and try opening one of your attachments. -- Urban Cymbals are round, metal CLANGS! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Thursday, June 10, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote: U Advocating top-posting now, are we? (tsk tsk) SCNR No, I'm not. But my cursor is indeed set before the quotes, and I delete or not and write my replies while I go along. Didn't think of that. But I can see the sense in it. Just move down using the arrow keys and start typing where-ever you are. Nice! I do that using the mouse-wheel, so I have to do a mousy-click first and then move my hand to the keyboard. -- Urban During the Renaissance America began. Christopher Columbus was a great navigator who discovered America while cursing about the Atlantic. His ships were called the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Fe. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Move Attachment Pane in Editor
--- Original Message From: Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, June 10, 2004 at 07:00AM PDT MD Can you move the attachment pane in editing mode? I see how to move it MD while viewing, but not editing. TF I can't find it either. Make a wish? I've made several, dating back to over a year. Should I add another to be ignored? We'll see... Thanks for the response! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Robin! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 6:29 PM, you wrote: MB ... until yesterday I had chosen keep attachments with message MB body. Last night I changed it to separate directory. (In MB Account/Properties/Files and Directories.) RA Then the fact that you can't see them in a separate directory or folder RA is not a problem. They should still all be in the original email message. Thank you for all three of your messages. They are a help. It is true that, so far, any particular attachment that I save to Desktop or other appropriate folder can then be opened. It's just that The Bat! will not open them--a double-click or menu request results in nothing. But since they will open if saved elsewhere, the files must be available from some folder on the hard drive. MB That may be what let me get the 4 .jpgs without problems this morning. MB They are now in Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\m.bull\ATTACH RA Sounds about right. I think I'm beginning to get the picture. (No pun intended.) :) MB ... 88 bat.tmp files in my profile ... RA As in the previous email I sent, you can safely delete these unless they RA have today's date, in which case they may be in use. Thank you. I am going to delete them. They are just taking up space, since, according to Properties, each contains 0 bytes. I've been out to dinner and it was heartening to come home and find your three helpful posts in my mail. I'll report back to the list with more information, if I find out anything further. Once again, many thanks! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP sent-mail folder
Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote: Having just begun working with IMAP/Exchange again with the same difficulties with Outbox/Sent mail as previously I assume that you by this mean that IMAP outgoing does not work properly at your end either? Nope. I've never gotten it working properly. It only works well when the Outbox is kept local and not server side. If not, I have the messages not being sent and upon sending, I end up with two copies of the sent message stuck in the outbox. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpj77j8k9s8G.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: tbudl list subjects
Robin Anson, [RA] wrote: If you _really_ want to do it, you could use XRay (www.xrayapp.com) as the tool. Ironically, I used to use XRay to get *remove* those subject list prefixes. It can surely insert them too. :) -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgphY6mQ94V4h.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Linking Notepad to Contact
Since TB! has started to adopt some impressive features, I've been thinking about how well they might replace my current info managers. The scheduling and linking features in the current release are quite nice, but I haven't found a way to link notepad entries to contacts. Here's the problem in practice: whether TB! can track history by contact, e.g., scheduler entries, notepad entries, and e-mail. Any ideas? -- JN Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Urban! On Thursday, June 10, 2004, 8:01 PM, you wrote: MB 88 bat.tmp files in my profile [...] \TEMP are each one empty. MB ... Maybe my attachment files are Lost in Space! ... U But your old attachments still are working if you copy them to the U desktop? Yes. And I want to say here, as near the top of my post as I can and still make sense: You Are Right. What you suggested did work, and it was the .tmp files that were messing things up for me. U It could very well be those empty .tmp files that are messing things U up for you. Try closing TB, then move the .tmp-files to another folder, U they normally are safe to delete but just in case... U It may happen that Windows says that some of the files are being used U and can't be moved, that's normal, just click OK. U Then open TB again and try opening one of your attachments. I did this. You have solved the problem! All the old attachments will open now, just like the four new ones do. It took me some time, because I first moved the .tmp files to another folder, as you suggested, rather than deleting them. After I was able to open the attachments successfully, I then deleted the 88 bat.tmp files. It's not a familiar activity for me, and I had trouble controlling the mouse to highlight them in selected blocks rather than one at a time. I wasn't sure whether I should delete the .tmp files which were not The Bat! files, so I didn't. I don't have the words to say how much joy it brings me to have this problem solved. Thank you very much, Urban. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
