Backup Problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings All, I have tried to backup The Bat, and I was told that there was an error in the index file. I was told to delete the index file and re-read the folders. So, where is the index file and what do I have to do to re-read the folders? - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic Big Brother is watching - George Orwell (1984) - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12 Beta/1 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Surfing with MyIE2 Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall The best things in life aren't things. _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X / \ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQNpvcm2u7N+Qh+ieEQLcwwCgtCqDSxUPdf4sTEeSWa/eCBKjxZQAoPwQ 477Jo18n/vIToLrOyatuUgbB =CNWV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with extreme CPU power usage and slowly performing tasks...
Hi all, first of all, thanks for all the reactions. I do not have the problem anymore now, but I am still interested in finding the cause. Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 4:47:34 PM, you wrote: TF On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:44:32 +0200 GMT (23/06/2004, 01:44 +0700 GMT), TF Marije Baalman wrote: MB The tasks where I have encountered this problem are: MB - sending and receiving email (the CPU hangs in between retrieving or MB sending messages, causing the whole process to take very long) TF Same here. When I write a message while TB checks mail, the screen TF will freeze but I can continue typing, and when the mail check is TF finished, the typed letters will appear. I did not have this. During mail check, I could use the rest of the program normally. MB - purge and compress folders. TF OK, this uses CPU time, but that's understandable. it took an abnormal amount of time for the small amount of messages in the folder or that had ever been in there. MB - at startup (while the startup screen is visible) TF I think every program needs time to boot up. This took abnormally long too. MB - importing mailboxes from Eudora Pro mailbox files (this eventually MB took some days (It literrally took a weekend to import a lot of the MB stuff) and I still do not have all of it there). TF I didn't try this. I checked what is going on when it is importing the mailboxes and saw that this is the time when TheBat! creates all the temporary files. However, TheBat! never takes care of a clean-up of these temp-files as it seems. This could be a bug, or uncareful programming. Either way, I think it should be repaired. (I will send a bug report on it). I think this is what caused the problem in my case, as importing my old email archives was one of the first things I did with TheBat! Sincerely, Marije Baalman -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with extreme CPU power usage and slowly performing tasks...
Hello Marije! On Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 6:55 PM, you wrote: MB However, TheBat! never takes care of a clean-up of these temp-files as MB it seems. This could be a bug, or uncareful programming. Either way, I MB think it should be repaired. (I will send a bug report on it). This is true about TB! leaving empty temp files behind. I think it has always done this. You are so knowledgeable about dealing with all things Bat so far, that I hope you'll be able to file the bug report. For unknown reasons--probably that I made an account months and months ago and forgot about it--I can't get access to file one. It should be simple to put in a little code to make TB! take these out automatically? (Although, after my disastrous inability to open attachments when my bat.tmp files reached the count of 88, I got a program which will clean all the temp files I have on an automatic schedule, it would still be nice to have this fixed so that it doesn't catch the unwary any more.) It has been very interesting to me to read your posts. -- Best regards, Mary Bull :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
Howdy Wayne, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 3:28:30 AM, Wayne wrotened: Wayne If they provided a manual, they'd likely sell a lot more copies Wayne -- and get fewer requests for support. Most people won't be Wayne willing or have the time to follow a discussion list like this Wayne just to be able to use the program. I guess we're encouraging sociability And you're more likely to get the exact answer you want from a person that is responding to you than a book that is written generally about a problem. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Rohop: crashing The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Howdy Wayne, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 2:57:23 AM, Wayne wrotened: Wayne I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, Wayne I just asked whether the plugin was necessary. Its not necessary, but then again AV programs generally aren't specifically necessary but they do a valuable job and make us feel safer... -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Rohop: crashing The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 School is just an elaborate plot by vampires to obtain the blood of teenagers through periodic blood-drives. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AW: Re[4]: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
Hi, --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Thursday, June 24, 2004, 3:28:30 AM, Wayne wrotened: Wayne If they provided a manual, they'd likely sell a lot more copies Wayne -- and get fewer requests for support. Most people won't be Wayne willing or have the time to follow a discussion list like this Wayne just to be able to use the program. I guess we're encouraging sociability And you're more likely to get the exact answer you want from a person that is responding to you than a book that is written generally about a problem. What about setting up some kind of wiki? That would enable users to create a kind of online help document for other users; if it is set up right, with a proper categorisation of topics, then it would be easy to find out all these things, that some users found in the program. sincerely, Marije Baalman -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
On Thursday, June 24, 2004, 12:33:02 PM, Ben wrote: Wayne I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, Wayne I just asked whether the plugin was necessary. BA Its not necessary, but then again AV programs generally aren't BA specifically necessary but they do a valuable job and make us feel BA safer... I usually don't run AV programs in resident mode, because they interfere with other things I need to do. Because of this, I find the AVG plugin I'm using with TB! to be very useful. -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Background colors
I am one of those who do not like html, so I just tell the viewer to do text. Other than the spammers who tell me I should get a better reader, I get along pretty well. Except for some email that has headers that force black on white. They always seem to contain something like: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 or Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Is there some way to over ride this (to my choice of colors/font) in TheBat? -- Lou --- __@ -- _-\,_ --- (_)/ (_) Life is tough.It's tougher if you're stupid. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AW: Re[4]: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
Hello lists, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 5:43:08 AM, you wrote: lists What about setting up some kind of wiki? It's certainly something to consider. Any volunteers? -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Avoid temptation ... Unless you can't resist!! Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the use of an Anti virus plug-in?
Wednesday, June 23, 2004, 9:57:23 PM, Wayne wrote: WK Will AVG work without the plugin? I only use pop3 and am happy WK to have infected messages/attachments just deleted. What's so terrible wrong with doing exactly that with a plugin? WK I didn't say there was anything terribly wrong with it, I WK just asked whether the plugin was necessary. Go to: http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm and get some false virus files and test TheBat with and without the AVG plugin and report the results back to the group. -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Relaying denied error message?
Hi All, After suffering a crash I was forced to reinstall TB! and am now having a problem sending mail (downloading is no problem). I keep getting an error message from the server saying that the messages can't be sent because relaying denied. Did I miss an important option while reinstalling. Thank you for any suggestions or solutions. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Relaying denied error message?
Hello Nick, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 9:07:18 AM, you wrote: Nick Did I miss an important option while reinstalling. Nick Thank you for any suggestions or solutions. Most likely you forgot to set your SMTP authentication. Set it to POP before SMTP to see if that fixes it. If not, set it to authenticate, and check the box that says use settings from mail retrieval. -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Shoes are required to eat in the Dining Room. Socks can eat anywhere. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mass mailing and chats folder
TBUDL Can someone help me figure out why when I do a mass mailing I end up with a copy of each mailing in the chats folder? The mailing goes out in fine shape but deleting the messages out of the chats folder is a pain. I would delete the chats folder but I think it would just appear at the next mailing. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas. Using The Bat! 2.11.02 BayesIt! 0.5.5, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with mass mailing
Can someone help me figure out why when I do a mass mailing I end up with a copy of each mailing in the chats folder? The mailing goes out in fine shape but deleting the messages out of the chats folder is a pain. I would delete the chats folder but I think it would just appear at the next mailing. Thanks Jimmie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multipart email msg
Hello Gerard, On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:47:26 +0700 GMT (20/06/2004, 16:47 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF They are sent as attachments, that's why they are shown as such. Thanks for your PM. The message has a plain text version and three attachments. TF Under Options / Preferences / Editor/Viewer, choose something with TF HTML first for mails that contain HTML parts. G That is what I tried to explain. I did that, tried all the different G options and nothing helps. TB! sees them as attachments and only will G show the first text part. Confirmed. The message header says: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0515293072== and not multipart/alternative. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Love will find you, even if you are trying to hide from it. I've been trying to hide from it since I was five, but the girls keep finding me. (Bobby, 8) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What is the Watched by button in the properties of folders ?
Hello, When I have a look at the properties of my folders, there is a button named Watched by at the bottom left of the window. When I click on it, I can see a tree with all my folders, with a check box nearest. What is it for ? Thanks, -- WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB 2.11.02 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Background colors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lou, On 24 June 2004, 08:42 -0400 (13:42 local time) Lou Yovin [LY] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LY I am one of those who do not like html, so I just tell the viewer to do text. LY Other than the spammers who tell me I should get a better reader, I get along LY pretty well. Except for some email that has headers that force black on white. LY They always seem to contain something like: LY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 LY or LY Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 LY Is there some way to over ride this (to my choice of colors/font) in TheBat? Have you checked Options | Preferences... | Plain Text/MicroEd or HTML/Windows Editor? You can change default text/background there. Of course, this won't work with some HTML messages since the colours are set by the markup. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQNsR1jknq5PWREYNEQK8rgCg+dvMKSVUn7O+dfXfeP/ob0rYow4An0dz lr4o1NCV8cGTbeAdOeJwYEeI =YtpV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Server error
Subject: Server error Hello all. From time to time I see this line in the account log: !24.06.2004, 18:32:39: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR Server not ready. Please try again after sometime This error comes with the popup window that prompt for the username and the password. The window's name is %ACCOUNTNAME - check mail. My question is how do I get rid of this popup window whenever I have connection problem with my POP3 server ? I just don't want to see the TB window. TIA -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [thebat] Re: Background colors
Thursday, June 24, 2004, 1:39:29 PM, you wrote: MW Have you checked Options | Preferences... | Plain Text/MicroEd or MW HTML/Windows Editor? You can change default text/background there. Of MW course, this won't work with some HTML messages since the colours are MW set by the markup. Thanks, even with HTML turned off, the background color changes. -- Lou --- __@ -- _-\,_ --- (_)/ (_) Life is tough.It's tougher if you're stupid. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mailing and chats folder
Hello Jimmie, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 6:43:39 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Can someone help me figure out why when I do a mass mailing I end up with a copy of each mailing in the chats folder? I think that you have to set the X-MAIL-CHAT settings in Options | Preferences | Message Headers to No. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multipart email msg
On Friday, June 18, 2004 at 8:40:33 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:44:43 +0200 GMT (18/06/2004, 16:44 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G I have a problem with a list I subscribe to professionally. They are G sending me mail that arrives in 4 blocks and shows in TB! as 4 tabs and 3 G attachments (the last 3 blocks). Because they are attachments. IBTD. Content-Disposition: inline means, that the MUA should display the content inline and not as an attachment. -- Regards, Frank Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is the Watched by button in the properties of folders ?
Hello WilWilWil, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 12:36:28 PM, you wrote: When I have a look at the properties of my folders, there is a button named Watched by at the bottom left of the window. When I click on it, I can see a tree with all my folders, with a check box nearest. What is it for ? It shows what virtual folders are watching that folder for messages matching the filtering criteria of the virtual folder. ...At least that's my understanding of it. -- :Dave_Gorman: Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Anti-spam plugins and TB!
Hi All (again), Still working out some issues with TB! v2. Does v2 come with an anti-spam plug-in by default? Specifically one that would add to the subject line intercepted as spam any message it found as suspicious? Thank you for any input, suggestions or solutions. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Relaying denied error message?
Hello Leif, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 11:23:15 AM, you wrote: LG Most likely you forgot to set your SMTP authentication. LG Set it to POP before SMTP to see if that fixes it. LG If not, set it to authenticate, and check the box that says use LG settings from mail retrieval. Thanks for your response. I didn't get a chance to use your suggestion. I did get the send to start working by wiping out the user name and password and forcing TB! to ask for them. This ended up working, but I'm not sure why. The next time I just ticked the box that asked (something like) update settings. Since then, everything has worked. -- Best regards, Nickmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Relaying denied error message?
Hello Nick, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 3:46:12 PM, you wrote: Nick Thanks for your response. I didn't get a chance to use your Nick suggestion. I did get the send to start working by wiping out Nick the user name and password and forcing TB! to ask for them. This Nick ended up working, but I'm not sure why. The next time I just Nick ticked the box that asked (something like) update settings. Nick Since then, everything has worked. Hmmm. That makes me think you had the wrong username in there. But who knows! grin Glad it's working. -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Seminar for Men: Laundry -- Red + White = pink. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti-spam plugins and TB!
Hello Nick, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 3:40:06 PM, you wrote: Nick Still working out some issues with TB! v2. Does v2 come with an Nick anti-spam plug-in by default? Specifically one that would add to Nick the subject line intercepted as spam any message it found as Nick suspicious? I believe it came with BayesIT. Not 100% on that. As for adding to the subject line, no. The plugin API isn't capable of preprocessing messages yet. That sounds a bit confusing. I mean preprocessing in terms of being able to do something with the message other than moving it. -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: The problem with paradigms is that shift happens. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup Problems
Hello Michael, Thursday, June 24, 2004, 2:06:37 AM, you wrote: snip MLW I have tried to backup The Bat, and I was told that there was an error MLW in the index file. I was told to delete the index file and re-read MLW the folders. So, where is the index file and what do I have to do to MLW re-read the folders? The index files (at least in version 1.63) are the files that end in .tbi. Close down TB!, locate the .tbi file(s) in question and delete them. TB! will re-create them when you fire up the program again. Each folder (inbox, sent etc.) of each account contains a .tbi file. Important note: Do not delete the .tbb files! This are the files that actually contain all your emails. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Server error
Thursday, June 24, 2004, Shahar wrote: This error comes with the popup window that prompt for the username and the password. The window's name is %ACCOUNTNAME - check mail. My question is how do I get rid of this popup window whenever I have connection problem with my POP3 server ? I just don't want to see the TB window. Enter your user name and password in Account - Properties - Transport - Receive Mail You'll also need to set the Do not store password, prompt on mail retrieval that hides behind the Authentication button in that window. -- Urban Meanwhile in Europe, the enlightenment was a reasonable time. Voltaire invented electricity and also wrote a book called Candy. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Server error
On Friday, June 25, 2004, 12:43:15 AM, you wrote: My question is how do I get rid of this popup window whenever I have connection problem with my POP3 server ? I just don't want to see the TB window. Enter your user name and password in Account - Properties - Transport - Receive Mail You'll also need to set the Do not store password, prompt on mail retrieval that hides behind the Authentication button in that window. Hello Urban. Thank you for your help. It didn't work. When I have connection problem I don't want to be disturb by TB prompt me about the connection problem. I want TB to keep trying connect the POP3 server until reconnect. How do I do it ? TIA. -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
